I expect to drive 55mph. it's the speed limit. Everyone else should just suck it and be happy behind me.
DannyDuberstein said:
I think the attitude that somehow a 4some has more right to be there and that everyone behind them can just suck it even though there may be room ahead is a joke. Keep up or let people play through. Doesn't matter the group size.
DannyDuberstein said:
Some of you need to get off the clock check. Again, room in front + faster group behind = play through. A clock is not needed for this. Just courtesy. It takes no time at all to let someone slide through if you have any clue how to do it properly.
I'm sorry, but that is complete bullsh**. I have just as much standing playing alone as anyone else does. I pay just like anyone else. If I was told by a club that nothing less than a threesome would be able to play before noon on Saturday I would take my business elsewhere.Quote:
My FIL has been a golf pro for 49 years and as long as I have known him he has used the phrase " a onesome has no standing on a golf course". He is a pro emeritus now but when he was in charge he never let less than a threesome go off before noon on a Saturday.
gman-79 said:
My FIL has been a golf pro for 49 years and as long as I have known him he has used the phrase " a onesome has no standing on a golf course". He is a pro emeritus now but when he was in charge he never let less than a threesome go off before noon on a Saturday.
DannyDuberstein said:
Funny timing because I went out to Sherrill Park yesterday morning (got there about 7am) and they ended up sending me out as a single. I told them I was good to wait for a game and did for a little while, but then they decided to go ahead and send me. I was technically sandwiched between two 4somes although they were fairly spaced (one was on the #2 green before the other was on the #1 tee), but it worked out perfect. The one in front of me played reasonably fast (probably 3:30). I walked, took a little over 3, and never pushed them. If I ever got within a shot of them, I'd stop down and practice my short game or hit some extra approach shots and let some cushion open up.
The 4some behind me never caught up. I think they were on 14-15 when I finished.
Bottom line - there is no one-size-fits-all rule based on the day of the week. Learn to play efficiently (ready golf, be a good cart partner that doesn't sit in the cart waiting for your partner to hit so you can then be driven 20 yards to your ball, etc), keep up, and when there is space ahead, know how to efficiently let a faster group slide through. When the course is stacked, be efficient but patient.
Zombie said:
I think my point may have been completely missed. I simply stated that there should never be 3 fivesomes allowed to tee off back to back to back. It needs to be spaced out better. I don't care how long it takes for them to play, that's not the issue. It's simply the fact that they were all allowed to tee off within 10 minutes of each other.I'm sorry, but that is complete bullsh**. I have just as much standing playing alone as anyone else does. I pay just like anyone else. If I was told by a club that nothing less than a threesome would be able to play before noon on Saturday I would take my business elsewhere.Quote:
My FIL has been a golf pro for 49 years and as long as I have known him he has used the phrase " a onesome has no standing on a golf course". He is a pro emeritus now but when he was in charge he never let less than a threesome go off before noon on a Saturday.
TT3000 said:DannyDuberstein said:
Bottom line - there is no one-size-fits-all rule based on the day of the week. Learn to play efficiently (ready golf, be a good cart partner that doesn't sit in the cart waiting for your partner to hit so you can then be driven 20 yards to your ball, etc), keep up, and when there is space ahead, know how to efficiently let a faster group slide through. When the course is stacked, be efficient but patient.
DannyDuberstein said:
I did not take his post to mean that extreme. He posted separately that he's fine being paired up. I think is basic issue was with a single essentially being told to **** off during certain parts of the week, which seemed to be the old-timer pro attitude above, which is a great one to have in a sport that has declined 20% in the past decade+. Not that hard to accommodate singles and make it work.
Actually I said nothing about accommodating me. I said that it is ridiculous to put 3 fivesomes back to back to back. It doesn't matter how large any group behind that is, it will create a huge bottleneck like it did.Quote:
He specifically said the course shoukd not have put three full groups back to back to back because that didn't accommodate him as a single. That's why the old pro is right.
Zombie said:Actually I said nothing about accommodating me. I said that it is ridiculous to put 3 fivesomes back to back to back. It doesn't matter how large any group behind that is, it will create a huge bottleneck like it did.Quote:
He specifically said the course shoukd not have put three full groups back to back to back because that didn't accommodate him as a single. That's why the old pro is right.
DannyDuberstein said:
No one's 5some is ever the slow 5some.
Zombie said:Actually I said nothing about accommodating me. I said that it is ridiculous to put 3 fivesomes back to back to back. It doesn't matter how large any group behind that is, it will create a huge bottleneck like it did.Quote:
He specifically said the course shoukd not have put three full groups back to back to back because that didn't accommodate him as a single. That's why the old pro is right.
I agree. I played yesterday at Briarcrest as a single with a 11:00 tee-time. I asked the the twosome in front of me if I could join them to help pace of play up for everyone. It is the considerate thing to do and most of the time you meet some generous golfers.AgLA06 said:birdman said:
The time doesn't matter. If the group ahead of him played in 3 hours, but he was waiting on every shot? Then they were too slow. He should have been allowed to play through.
This is a joke right?
A single is going to wait on every group on every hole. One person should always play faster than a group. To expect every group he encounters every day to let him play through is also a joke.
Either schedule a tee time that allows you to get out ahead of the crowd, join another group or wait your turn.
Personally I think it's just as rude for a single to sit their and wait for a group to clear to play by themselves and further back up the course.
_lefraud_ said:
On about hole #11, we see the two some and foursome ahead of us have actually joined together, so now it's even slower. I run into the Marshall on around #13, and asked why that was allowed to happen. He responded with "well, it doesn't matter, there's no where to go, you'd be waiting whether it was a 6 some or 4 some in front of you.