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Bru McCoy will have a 8+ touchdown year this year for Texas.

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he may have more considering the pathetic BDF defenses.

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The OLE defense is a hallmark of the Big Dumpster Fire. Look at high school stud to NFL dud Malik Jefferson. The following is from a Cincinnati fan site:

"Cincinnati has a lot of work to do with Jefferson to teach him how to read formations, diagnosing plays as they develop, and anticipating blocking schemes. Too often it looks like he is just running around and reacting instead of attacking the play and disrupting.

Jefferson struggles against the run because of his lack of instincts. He doesn't have the awareness pre-snap to gauge where the play is going and is in constant react mode. This tends to get him into trouble when playing against the run."

https://stripehype.com/2018/04/28/tackling-film-bengals-linebacker-malik-jefferson/

Look guys, in this day and age of teams giving out record numbers of offers it is totally reasonable that Tom Herman is a mastermind in finding and correctly evaluating the unheralded studs that other top flight coaches and talent evaluators pay little attention to. Never mind the fact that he also gave offers and heavily recruited many of the players that chose A&M over tu, the ones he ended up with were really better or at least comparable players. Equally believable is that not only can Herman successfully find and evaluate these kids, but certain recruiting websites - specifically those owned and operated by graduates of tu or those with ties to tu - are also suddenly successful in finding studs with very small offer lists and massively revising their previous rankings to correctly evaluate them as the true top prospects that they should be. I don't see what is so hard for you guys to understand here.

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Texas was in the absolute worst shape its program has been in a very very long time.

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7th ranked class in 2016
10th ranked class in 2015
17th ranked class in 2014

These were the classes the previous 3 years, before he came into the program. Not exactly the 'worst shape'. It's a much much better roster, compared to the programs he's lost to.

Maybe he wins 10+ every year from here on out. But based on recent history, this season was an anomaly...and it's ignoring who he lost to this year, and the teams he struggled to put away (Tulsa, Kansas, KSU, Baylor, etc).

This past season very much reminds me of the 2006 season with Fran. Our record made it look like we were improving, recruiting was doing better, we beat a few highly ranked teams (including top 10 horns)..but we struggled with some mediocre teams, despite the records...and the wheels quickly fell off.

We'll see if Herman is Mack 2.0, or Fran 2.0 soon enough.

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The OL and QB positions (offense in general) were a travesty when he arrived which was a huge part of the 6 then 5 and 5 win seasons leading up to the Herman hiring. I fail to see the connection you are making. The win totals and bowl wins show a trend in his first 2 years that is going to continue. I told yall he would fix these 2 key areas on this team (and I was right) and the offense will even better next year. There are many other aspects of this program that have changed in the past 2 years as well. It is night and day, as well as a top notch Athletic Director to boot. The wheels are not going to fall off. This is only the beginning. Again, lets bookmark this.

No.3 recruiting class in the nation.

Good job Ags.

http://insider.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/classrankings

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Texas was in the absolute worst shape its program has been in a very very long time.

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7th ranked class in 2016
10th ranked class in 2015
17th ranked class in 2014

These were the classes the previous 3 years, before he came into the program. Not exactly the 'worst shape'. It's a much much better roster, compared to the programs he's lost to.

Maybe he wins 10+ every year from here on out. But based on recent history, this season was an anomaly...and it's ignoring who he lost to this year, and the teams he struggled to put away (Tulsa, Kansas, KSU, Baylor, etc).

This past season very much reminds me of the 2006 season with Fran. Our record made it look like we were improving, recruiting was doing better, we beat a few highly ranked teams (including top 10 horns)..but we struggled with some mediocre teams, despite the records...and the wheels quickly fell off.

We'll see if Herman is Mack 2.0, or Fran 2.0 soon enough.

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The OL and QB positions (offense in general) were a travesty when he arrived which was a huge part of the 6 then 5 and 5 win seasons leading up to the Herman hiring. I fail to see the connection you are making. The win totals and bowl wins show a trend in his first 2 years that is going to continue. I told yall he would fix these 2 key areas on this team (and I was right) and the offense will even better next year. There are many other aspects of this program that have changed in the past 2 years as well. It is night and day, as well as a top notch Athletic Director to boot. The wheels are not going to fall off. This is only the beginning. Again, lets bookmark this.

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How many starters from the 4-loss Tessus 2018 campaign will need to be replaced for 2019?

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Texas was in the absolute worst shape its program has been in a very very long time.

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7th ranked class in 2016
10th ranked class in 2015
17th ranked class in 2014

These were the classes the previous 3 years, before he came into the program. Not exactly the 'worst shape'. It's a much much better roster, compared to the programs he's lost to.

Maybe he wins 10+ every year from here on out. But based on recent history, this season was an anomaly...and it's ignoring who he lost to this year, and the teams he struggled to put away (Tulsa, Kansas, KSU, Baylor, etc).

This past season very much reminds me of the 2006 season with Fran. Our record made it look like we were improving, recruiting was doing better, we beat a few highly ranked teams (including top 10 horns)..but we struggled with some mediocre teams, despite the records...and the wheels quickly fell off.

We'll see if Herman is Mack 2.0, or Fran 2.0 soon enough.

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The OL and QB positions (offense in general) were a travesty when he arrived which was a huge part of the 6 then 5 and 5 win seasons leading up to the Herman hiring. I fail to see the connection you are making. The win totals and bowl wins show a trend in his first 2 years that is going to continue. I told yall he would fix these 2 key areas on this team (and I was right) and the offense will even better next year. There are many other aspects of this program that have changed in the past 2 years as well. It is night and day, as well as a top notch Athletic Director to boot. The wheels are not going to fall off. This is only the beginning. Again, lets bookmark this.

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A travesty? Oh really? How were those positions "ranked" in their recruiting classes? How does that compare to now?

Win totals are a trend that are going to continue? Are you predicting that Texas will be BETTER next year? He "fixed" QB and OL? If those are "fixed"...why was the offense unable to field a Top 50 unit despite playing against, BY EVERY MEASURE, the weakest talent in the Power 5 on defense? The offense will get "even better"? The offense wasn't good either year. The program has changed "night and day" since then? How? You're not an insider - you're schlep in a low rung, ****ty job that might pull in $60k a year. You don't know a damn thing. A top notch AD? Based on what? "This is only the beginning"? Of what? We're better than you NOW. And we recruit better than you NOW, despite Jimbo getting here a year ago vs. Herman having a 15 year history in the state. He doesn't recruit well in state because coaches don't like him.

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Texas was in the absolute worst shape its program has been in a very very long time.

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7th ranked class in 2016
10th ranked class in 2015
17th ranked class in 2014

These were the classes the previous 3 years, before he came into the program. Not exactly the 'worst shape'. It's a much much better roster, compared to the programs he's lost to.

Maybe he wins 10+ every year from here on out. But based on recent history, this season was an anomaly...and it's ignoring who he lost to this year, and the teams he struggled to put away (Tulsa, Kansas, KSU, Baylor, etc).

This past season very much reminds me of the 2006 season with Fran. Our record made it look like we were improving, recruiting was doing better, we beat a few highly ranked teams (including top 10 horns)..but we struggled with some mediocre teams, despite the records...and the wheels quickly fell off.

We'll see if Herman is Mack 2.0, or Fran 2.0 soon enough.

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The OL and QB positions (offense in general) were a travesty when he arrived which was a huge part of the 6 then 5 and 5 win seasons leading up to the Herman hiring. I fail to see the connection you are making. The win totals and bowl wins show a trend in his first 2 years that is going to continue. I told yall he would fix these 2 key areas on this team (and I was right) and the offense will even better next year. There are many other aspects of this program that have changed in the past 2 years as well. It is night and day, as well as a top notch Athletic Director to boot. The wheels are not going to fall off. This is only the beginning. Again, lets bookmark this.

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A travesty? Oh really? How were those positions "ranked" in their recruiting classes? How does that compare to now?

Win totals are a trend that are going to continue? Are you predicting that Texas will be BETTER next year? He "fixed" QB and OL? If those are "fixed"...why was the offense unable to field a Top 50 unit despite playing against, BY EVERY MEASURE, the weakest talent in the Power 5 on defense? The offense will get "even better"? The offense wasn't good either year. The program has changed "night and day" since then? How? You're not an insider - you're schlep in a low rung, ****ty job that might pull in $60k a year. You don't know a damn thing. A top notch AD? Based on what? "This is only the beginning"? Of what? We're better than you NOW. And we recruit better than you NOW, despite Jimbo getting here a year ago vs. Herman having a 15 year history in the state. He doesn't recruit well in state because coaches don't like him.

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Take a chill pill my man, it'll all play out the way it's supposed to. Don't get so bent out of shape, it only feeds us trolls.

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I don't see how any rational person could possibly look at last season, the past few recruiting classes, and the returning talent and not be optimistic about the Horns in 2019.

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I'm betting you said that about Mack's last years and Strong's classes too.


A&M signed 10 of the top 30 in state. Great class, Leal and Cupp will kill it.

Good job Ags.

http://insider.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/classrankings

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Has anyone told tu fans that there is no such thing as a "recruiting championship"?

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Oh we know, we're just content to see a g g y get bent out of shape over their prized 2019 recruiting class getting beat by the good guys yet again. This thread wouldn't exist if Bru's flip didn't lead to Texas leapfrogging TAMU.

Y'all have been beating your chests over this class for a year and now that the dust is settled you're beside yourselves about inflated rankings and broken transfer rules and it's hysterical.

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It's hysterical alright. You had to inflate rankings for spares like Hookfin just to beat us.

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Texas has the higher ranked class even if Hookfin is removed altogether. Not sure what your particular obsession with him is.

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Please, keep being purposefully obtuse and convincing yourself that A&M didn't sign a better class. A&M stomped Texas head to head, and A&M got high-end talent across the board. Magical "rerankings" despite no games or camps on a site owned by Texas alum, and not adding anyone..yeah...ok.

Reminds me of Texas fans convincing themselves their team was really good despite the fact that they couldn't produce a Top 50 unit on either side of the ball.

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In the 2019 classes there are 11 players on the Texas side with offers from Jimbo and 11 on the A&M side with offers from Herman, don't know why you're pretending it was a lopsided thumping head-to-head. Y'all cleaned up in state, sure, but on the whole it was a pretty even recruiting battle this year.

That "not top 50" team won 10 games and a NY6 bowl friend. That's what matters at the end of the day, no matter how many asterisks you try to put on it.

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Actually, the reason it matters is because it's not sustainable. Herman hasn't produced a Top 50 offense yet. The defense was awful and is probably not going to improve much next year. The close games Texas won that got them to "10 wins" (in 14 games) aren't likely to continue going their way. You should be very concerned - if you were honest with yourself - about Texas' inability to field a quality offense OR defense considering the level of talent they play against, which is the worst in the Power 5.

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Lol.

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This is the response of someone who isn't intelligent enough to debate the points offered, but feels compelled to respond so he can "get" those mean old Aggies. Sorry you weren't smart enough to get in here, pal.

But the point remains. Anyone who's not concerned about those offensive and defensive units, especially in that league, is fooling themselves. That's a big reason why Vegas rates Texas so much lower than sportswriters, and much lower than us. We had a Top 15 offense (against the best defensive talent in America by far) and a defense ranked #32 (including one of the top run D's in the country). That's in Year 1.

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Speaking of Vegas, they have Texas at 15/1 odds of winning the national championship next season. That's the 4th highest odds of any team in the country

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post a screen shot of your ticket or you are a *****

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The DL (best depth in a while) youngsters looking to step up were a big reason for smacking Georgia in the mouth.

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Flat out lie. Losing 8 starters on defense, but you do you.

Sip rag: https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/texaslonghorns/2019/01/09/3-reasons-texas-longhorns-could-worse-2019

Thank you for the Georgia line, still laughing lol

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Flexbone said:

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Texasteasipper said:

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Flexbone said:

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sam brehlinger said:

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Flexbone said:

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sam brehlinger said:

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Bo Darville said:

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sam brehlinger said:

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Muy said:

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Has anyone told tu fans that there is no such thing as a "recruiting championship"?

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Oh we know, we're just content to see a g g y get bent out of shape over their prized 2019 recruiting class getting beat by the good guys yet again. This thread wouldn't exist if Bru's flip didn't lead to Texas leapfrogging TAMU.

Y'all have been beating your chests over this class for a year and now that the dust is settled you're beside yourselves about inflated rankings and broken transfer rules and it's hysterical.

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It's hysterical alright. You had to inflate rankings for spares like Hookfin just to beat us.

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Texas has the higher ranked class even if Hookfin is removed altogether. Not sure what your particular obsession with him is.

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Please, keep being purposefully obtuse and convincing yourself that A&M didn't sign a better class. A&M stomped Texas head to head, and A&M got high-end talent across the board. Magical "rerankings" despite no games or camps on a site owned by Texas alum, and not adding anyone..yeah...ok.

Reminds me of Texas fans convincing themselves their team was really good despite the fact that they couldn't produce a Top 50 unit on either side of the ball.

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In the 2019 classes there are 11 players on the Texas side with offers from Jimbo and 11 on the A&M side with offers from Herman, don't know why you're pretending it was a lopsided thumping head-to-head. Y'all cleaned up in state, sure, but on the whole it was a pretty even recruiting battle this year.

That "not top 50" team won 10 games and a NY6 bowl friend. That's what matters at the end of the day, no matter how many asterisks you try to put on it.

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Actually, the reason it matters is because it's not sustainable. Herman hasn't produced a Top 50 offense yet. The defense was awful and is probably not going to improve much next year. The close games Texas won that got them to "10 wins" (in 14 games) aren't likely to continue going their way. You should be very concerned - if you were honest with yourself - about Texas' inability to field a quality offense OR defense considering the level of talent they play against, which is the worst in the Power 5.

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Lol.

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This is the response of someone who isn't intelligent enough to debate the points offered, but feels compelled to respond so he can "get" those mean old Aggies. Sorry you weren't smart enough to get in here, pal.

But the point remains. Anyone who's not concerned about those offensive and defensive units, especially in that league, is fooling themselves. That's a big reason why Vegas rates Texas so much lower than sportswriters, and much lower than us. We had a Top 15 offense (against the best defensive talent in America by far) and a defense ranked #32 (including one of the top run D's in the country). That's in Year 1.

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Speaking of Vegas, they have Texas at 15/1 odds of winning the national championship next season. That's the 4th highest odds of any team in the country

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You know full well this is to get tshirt flunkies (like yourself) to throw money their way. Awesome bait though.

Texasteasipper said:

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Flexbone said:

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Texasteasipper said:

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Flexbone said:

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sam brehlinger said:

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Flexbone said:

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sam brehlinger said:

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Bo Darville said:

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sam brehlinger said:

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Muy said:

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Has anyone told tu fans that there is no such thing as a "recruiting championship"?

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Oh we know, we're just content to see a g g y get bent out of shape over their prized 2019 recruiting class getting beat by the good guys yet again. This thread wouldn't exist if Bru's flip didn't lead to Texas leapfrogging TAMU.

Y'all have been beating your chests over this class for a year and now that the dust is settled you're beside yourselves about inflated rankings and broken transfer rules and it's hysterical.

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It's hysterical alright. You had to inflate rankings for spares like Hookfin just to beat us.

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Texas has the higher ranked class even if Hookfin is removed altogether. Not sure what your particular obsession with him is.

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Please, keep being purposefully obtuse and convincing yourself that A&M didn't sign a better class. A&M stomped Texas head to head, and A&M got high-end talent across the board. Magical "rerankings" despite no games or camps on a site owned by Texas alum, and not adding anyone..yeah...ok.

Reminds me of Texas fans convincing themselves their team was really good despite the fact that they couldn't produce a Top 50 unit on either side of the ball.

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In the 2019 classes there are 11 players on the Texas side with offers from Jimbo and 11 on the A&M side with offers from Herman, don't know why you're pretending it was a lopsided thumping head-to-head. Y'all cleaned up in state, sure, but on the whole it was a pretty even recruiting battle this year.

That "not top 50" team won 10 games and a NY6 bowl friend. That's what matters at the end of the day, no matter how many asterisks you try to put on it.

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Actually, the reason it matters is because it's not sustainable. Herman hasn't produced a Top 50 offense yet. The defense was awful and is probably not going to improve much next year. The close games Texas won that got them to "10 wins" (in 14 games) aren't likely to continue going their way. You should be very concerned - if you were honest with yourself - about Texas' inability to field a quality offense OR defense considering the level of talent they play against, which is the worst in the Power 5.

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Lol.

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This is the response of someone who isn't intelligent enough to debate the points offered, but feels compelled to respond so he can "get" those mean old Aggies. Sorry you weren't smart enough to get in here, pal.

But the point remains. Anyone who's not concerned about those offensive and defensive units, especially in that league, is fooling themselves. That's a big reason why Vegas rates Texas so much lower than sportswriters, and much lower than us. We had a Top 15 offense (against the best defensive talent in America by far) and a defense ranked #32 (including one of the top run D's in the country). That's in Year 1.

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You are an idiot. The Texas offense made astronomical gains over previous years and were ranked in the 20's in both FEI anf S&P on offense. They were in the 80-100's for multiple years prior. Nice try. Only a moron would bring up the offense as a reason to project negatively for the future. Sam is now only a Junior and the OL and WR is the best and most deep its been in years. The DL (best depth in a while) youngsters looking to step up were a big reason for smacking Georgia in the mouth.

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FEI and S&P? Nice try? Texas' offense sucked. It's not good. Ours is much better. That's very evident. Smacking Georgia in the mouth happened because Georgia, like almost every single CFP#5 before them, didn't want to be there. I realize you don't WANT this to be true because it discounts the biggest win in a decade, but it is. Speaking of single games, what were the reasons for losing to bad teams and barely beating bad teams?

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Flexbone said:

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Texasteasipper said:

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Flexbone said:

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sam brehlinger said:

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Flexbone said:

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sam brehlinger said:

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Bo Darville said:

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sam brehlinger said:

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Muy said:

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Has anyone told tu fans that there is no such thing as a "recruiting championship"?

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Oh we know, we're just content to see a g g y get bent out of shape over their prized 2019 recruiting class getting beat by the good guys yet again. This thread wouldn't exist if Bru's flip didn't lead to Texas leapfrogging TAMU.

Y'all have been beating your chests over this class for a year and now that the dust is settled you're beside yourselves about inflated rankings and broken transfer rules and it's hysterical.

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It's hysterical alright. You had to inflate rankings for spares like Hookfin just to beat us.

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Texas has the higher ranked class even if Hookfin is removed altogether. Not sure what your particular obsession with him is.

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Please, keep being purposefully obtuse and convincing yourself that A&M didn't sign a better class. A&M stomped Texas head to head, and A&M got high-end talent across the board. Magical "rerankings" despite no games or camps on a site owned by Texas alum, and not adding anyone..yeah...ok.

Reminds me of Texas fans convincing themselves their team was really good despite the fact that they couldn't produce a Top 50 unit on either side of the ball.

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In the 2019 classes there are 11 players on the Texas side with offers from Jimbo and 11 on the A&M side with offers from Herman, don't know why you're pretending it was a lopsided thumping head-to-head. Y'all cleaned up in state, sure, but on the whole it was a pretty even recruiting battle this year.

That "not top 50" team won 10 games and a NY6 bowl friend. That's what matters at the end of the day, no matter how many asterisks you try to put on it.

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Actually, the reason it matters is because it's not sustainable. Herman hasn't produced a Top 50 offense yet. The defense was awful and is probably not going to improve much next year. The close games Texas won that got them to "10 wins" (in 14 games) aren't likely to continue going their way. You should be very concerned - if you were honest with yourself - about Texas' inability to field a quality offense OR defense considering the level of talent they play against, which is the worst in the Power 5.

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Lol.

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This is the response of someone who isn't intelligent enough to debate the points offered, but feels compelled to respond so he can "get" those mean old Aggies. Sorry you weren't smart enough to get in here, pal.

But the point remains. Anyone who's not concerned about those offensive and defensive units, especially in that league, is fooling themselves. That's a big reason why Vegas rates Texas so much lower than sportswriters, and much lower than us. We had a Top 15 offense (against the best defensive talent in America by far) and a defense ranked #32 (including one of the top run D's in the country). That's in Year 1.

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Speaking of Vegas, they have Texas at 15/1 odds of winning the national championship next season. That's the 4th highest odds of any team in the country

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It's because dumbass t-shirt losers like you will place these bets. Not only that, but outside of LSU & OU the rest of your schedule is a complete joke.

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Texas was in the absolute worst shape its program has been in a very very long time.

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7th ranked class in 2016
10th ranked class in 2015
17th ranked class in 2014

These were the classes the previous 3 years, before he came into the program. Not exactly the 'worst shape'. It's a much much better roster, compared to the programs he's lost to.

Maybe he wins 10+ every year from here on out. But based on recent history, this season was an anomaly...and it's ignoring who he lost to this year, and the teams he struggled to put away (Tulsa, Kansas, KSU, Baylor, etc).

This past season very much reminds me of the 2006 season with Fran. Our record made it look like we were improving, recruiting was doing better, we beat a few highly ranked teams (including top 10 horns)..but we struggled with some mediocre teams, despite the records...and the wheels quickly fell off.

We'll see if Herman is Mack 2.0, or Fran 2.0 soon enough.

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The OL and QB positions (offense in general) were a travesty when he arrived which was a huge part of the 6 then 5 and 5 win seasons leading up to the Herman hiring. I fail to see the connection you are making. The win totals and bowl wins show a trend in his first 2 years that is going to continue. I told yall he would fix these 2 key areas on this team (and I was right) and the offense will even better next year. There are many other aspects of this program that have changed in the past 2 years as well. It is night and day, as well as a top notch Athletic Director to boot. The wheels are not going to fall off. This is only the beginning. Again, lets bookmark this.

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A travesty? Oh really? How were those positions "ranked" in their recruiting classes? How does that compare to now?

Win totals are a trend that are going to continue? Are you predicting that Texas will be BETTER next year? He "fixed" QB and OL? If those are "fixed"...why was the offense unable to field a Top 50 unit despite playing against, BY EVERY MEASURE, the weakest talent in the Power 5 on defense? The offense will get "even better"? The offense wasn't good either year. The program has changed "night and day" since then? How? You're not an insider - you're schlep in a low rung, ****ty job that might pull in $60k a year. You don't know a damn thing. A top notch AD? Based on what? "This is only the beginning"? Of what? We're better than you NOW. And we recruit better than you NOW, despite Jimbo getting here a year ago vs. Herman having a 15 year history in the state. He doesn't recruit well in state because coaches don't like him.

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Take a chill pill my man, it'll all play out the way it's supposed to. Don't get so bent out of shape, it only feeds us trolls.

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Thanks for taking the time to give an Aggie website your personal information to e-defend 17 & 18 year old kids, (that will attend a school that you were too dumb to get into) who would cream pie your sister in front of you.

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The DL (best depth in a while) youngsters looking to step up were a big reason for smacking Georgia in the mouth.

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Flat out lie. Losing 8 starters on defense, but you do you.

Sip rag: https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/texaslonghorns/2019/01/09/3-reasons-texas-longhorns-could-worse-2019

Thank you for the Georgia line, still laughing lol

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To be fair, when you have starters on your DL like Charles Omenihu and Breckyn Hager everyone behind them looks like Myles Garrett.

Oh and remember the inflations were just a product of Hookfin and Aggie conspiracy. Then again, maybe Herman is 4x the talent evaluator Dabo is.

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Texas was in the absolute worst shape its program has been in a very very long time.

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7th ranked class in 2016
10th ranked class in 2015
17th ranked class in 2014

These were the classes the previous 3 years, before he came into the program. Not exactly the 'worst shape'. It's a much much better roster, compared to the programs he's lost to.

Maybe he wins 10+ every year from here on out. But based on recent history, this season was an anomaly...and it's ignoring who he lost to this year, and the teams he struggled to put away (Tulsa, Kansas, KSU, Baylor, etc).

This past season very much reminds me of the 2006 season with Fran. Our record made it look like we were improving, recruiting was doing better, we beat a few highly ranked teams (including top 10 horns)..but we struggled with some mediocre teams, despite the records...and the wheels quickly fell off.

We'll see if Herman is Mack 2.0, or Fran 2.0 soon enough.

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The OL and QB positions (offense in general) were a travesty when he arrived which was a huge part of the 6 then 5 and 5 win seasons leading up to the Herman hiring. I fail to see the connection you are making. The win totals and bowl wins show a trend in his first 2 years that is going to continue. I told yall he would fix these 2 key areas on this team (and I was right) and the offense will even better next year. There are many other aspects of this program that have changed in the past 2 years as well. It is night and day, as well as a top notch Athletic Director to boot. The wheels are not going to fall off. This is only the beginning. Again, lets bookmark this.

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A travesty? Oh really? How were those positions "ranked" in their recruiting classes? How does that compare to now?

Win totals are a trend that are going to continue? Are you predicting that Texas will be BETTER next year? He "fixed" QB and OL? If those are "fixed"...why was the offense unable to field a Top 50 unit despite playing against, BY EVERY MEASURE, the weakest talent in the Power 5 on defense? The offense will get "even better"? The offense wasn't good either year. The program has changed "night and day" since then? How? You're not an insider - you're schlep in a low rung, ****ty job that might pull in $60k a year. You don't know a damn thing. A top notch AD? Based on what? "This is only the beginning"? Of what? We're better than you NOW. And we recruit better than you NOW, despite Jimbo getting here a year ago vs. Herman having a 15 year history in the state. He doesn't recruit well in state because coaches don't like him.

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Take a chill pill my man, it'll all play out the way it's supposed to. Don't get so bent out of shape, it only feeds us trolls.

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Thanks for taking the time to give an Aggie website your personal information to e-defend 17 & 18 year old kids, (that will attend a school that you were too dumb to get into) who would cream pie your sister in front of you.

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The DL (best depth in a while) youngsters looking to step up were a big reason for smacking Georgia in the mouth.

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Flat out lie. Losing 8 starters on defense, but you do you.

Sip rag: https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/texaslonghorns/2019/01/09/3-reasons-texas-longhorns-could-worse-2019

Thank you for the Georgia line, still laughing lol

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Can you read? The DL is not losing 8 starters and Freshmen Coburn, Ossai, and Ojomo are studs and the future on the DL/LB and had a major impact in the Sugar Bowl and end of year. The worry is LB next season. And they have plans for a big time transfer and just signed Jacoby Jones and Caleb Johnson who they are liking as the next Gary Johnson at LB. the secondary is loaded.

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Has anyone told tu fans that there is no such thing as a "recruiting championship"?

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Oh we know, we're just content to see a g g y get bent out of shape over their prized 2019 recruiting class getting beat by the good guys yet again. This thread wouldn't exist if Bru's flip didn't lead to Texas leapfrogging TAMU.

Y'all have been beating your chests over this class for a year and now that the dust is settled you're beside yourselves about inflated rankings and broken transfer rules and it's hysterical.

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It's hysterical alright. You had to inflate rankings for spares like Hookfin just to beat us.

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Texas has the higher ranked class even if Hookfin is removed altogether. Not sure what your particular obsession with him is.

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Please, keep being purposefully obtuse and convincing yourself that A&M didn't sign a better class. A&M stomped Texas head to head, and A&M got high-end talent across the board. Magical "rerankings" despite no games or camps on a site owned by Texas alum, and not adding anyone..yeah...ok.

Reminds me of Texas fans convincing themselves their team was really good despite the fact that they couldn't produce a Top 50 unit on either side of the ball.

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In the 2019 classes there are 11 players on the Texas side with offers from Jimbo and 11 on the A&M side with offers from Herman, don't know why you're pretending it was a lopsided thumping head-to-head. Y'all cleaned up in state, sure, but on the whole it was a pretty even recruiting battle this year.

That "not top 50" team won 10 games and a NY6 bowl friend. That's what matters at the end of the day, no matter how many asterisks you try to put on it.

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Actually, the reason it matters is because it's not sustainable. Herman hasn't produced a Top 50 offense yet. The defense was awful and is probably not going to improve much next year. The close games Texas won that got them to "10 wins" (in 14 games) aren't likely to continue going their way. You should be very concerned - if you were honest with yourself - about Texas' inability to field a quality offense OR defense considering the level of talent they play against, which is the worst in the Power 5.

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Lol.

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This is the response of someone who isn't intelligent enough to debate the points offered, but feels compelled to respond so he can "get" those mean old Aggies. Sorry you weren't smart enough to get in here, pal.

But the point remains. Anyone who's not concerned about those offensive and defensive units, especially in that league, is fooling themselves. That's a big reason why Vegas rates Texas so much lower than sportswriters, and much lower than us. We had a Top 15 offense (against the best defensive talent in America by far) and a defense ranked #32 (including one of the top run D's in the country). That's in Year 1.

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You are an idiot. The Texas offense made astronomical gains over previous years and were ranked in the 20's in both FEI anf S&P on offense. They were in the 80-100's for multiple years prior. Nice try. Only a moron would bring up the offense as a reason to project negatively for the future. Sam is now only a Junior and the OL and WR is the best and most deep its been in years. The DL (best depth in a while) youngsters looking to step up were a big reason for smacking Georgia in the mouth.

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FEI and S&P? Nice try? Texas' offense sucked. It's not good. Ours is much better. That's very evident. Smacking Georgia in the mouth happened because Georgia, like almost every single CFP#5 before them, didn't want to be there. I realize you don't WANT this to be true because it discounts the biggest win in a decade, but it is. Speaking of single games, what were the reasons for losing to bad teams and barely beating bad teams?

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LOL. Nice try? Wow. Yea, show your metrics since FEI and S&P are not intelligent enough for you. Let me guess simple ypg? You are going to sit here and discredit football outsiders? Lmao. Do you understand what goes into their data? Its not 1994. The offense improved for Texas this season even by basic yards and light years ahead from Strong era. You are officially an idiot.

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The DL (best depth in a while) youngsters looking to step up were a big reason for smacking Georgia in the mouth.

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Flat out lie. Losing 8 starters on defense, but you do you.

Sip rag: https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/texaslonghorns/2019/01/09/3-reasons-texas-longhorns-could-worse-2019

Thank you for the Georgia line, still laughing lol

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Can you read? The DL is not losing 8 starters and Freshmen Coburn, Ossai, and Ojomo are studs and the future on the DL/LB and had a major impact in the Sugar Bowl and end of year. The worry is LB next season. And they have plans for a big time transfer and just signed Jacoby Jones and Caleb Johnson who they are liking as the next Gary Johnson at LB. the secondary is loaded.

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coburn had 1 tackle, ossai had 8 tackles to make 13 all season, I don't see ojomo with any stats.

I see a lot of "hope" in your post.

Jesus, these sips and tee shirt sips dumbasses are pathetic

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I don't see how any rational person could possibly look at last season, the past few recruiting classes, and the returning talent and not be optimistic about the Horns in 2019.

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I'm betting you said that about Mack's last years and Strong's classes too.


A&M signed 10 of the top 30 in state. Great class, Leal and Cupp will kill it.

Good job Ags.

http://insider.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/classrankings

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Since many of the players Texas signed are better even though they're from elsewhere, did A&M really "win" anything? Seems like they should have been looking out of state, too. Ain't no Bru McCoy, DeGabriel Floyd, Chris Adimora Kenyatta Watsons or Jake Smith on that roster in collieville. Bunch of Texas 3-stars y'all can claim you "won" though.

Jesus, these sips and tee shirts sips dumbasses are pathetic

If Jimbo gets his ass run out of Texas like Herman I'm sure he will have to look out of state as well.

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If Jimbo gets his ass run out of Texas like Herman I'm sure he will have to look out of state as well.

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Herman got better players. Don't matter where they're from. The big boys like Texas, Ohio State and Alabama recruit nationally.

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If Jimbo gets his ass run out of Texas like Herman I'm sure he will have to look out of state as well.

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Herman got better players. Don't matter where they're from. The big boys like Texas, Ohio State and Alabama recruit nationally.

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better players?

Alabama recruits nationally? Alabama, Mississippi, and Georgia are their primary recruiting grounds.

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The DL (best depth in a while) youngsters looking to step up were a big reason for smacking Georgia in the mouth.

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Flat out lie. Losing 8 starters on defense, but you do you.

Sip rag: https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/texaslonghorns/2019/01/09/3-reasons-texas-longhorns-could-worse-2019

Thank you for the Georgia line, still laughing lol

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Can you read? The DL is not losing 8 starters and Freshmen Coburn, Ossai, and Ojomo are studs and the future on the DL/LB and had a major impact in the Sugar Bowl and end of year. The worry is LB next season. And they have plans for a big time transfer and just signed Jacoby Jones and Caleb Johnson who they are liking as the next Gary Johnson at LB. the secondary is loaded.

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coburn had 1 tackle, ossai had 8 tackles to make 13 all season, I don't see ojomo with any stats.

I see a lot of "hope" in your post.

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Facts are kryptonite to tshirtteasipper. F'ing loser