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The real story here is, has been and will be how the loyalty of the ****s to themselves and their own culture is greater than their loyalty to the principles of honesty and integrity that the state of Texas was founded upon.

The ****s who drank the kool-aid and fell for all the crap they were taught at fish camp should be furious with John Sharp about this whole sordid affair. But instead, they will claim victim status, strike out at people who present them with the truth and, only later, come kicking and screaming to the conclusion that they need to do whatever it is that is the right to do. And after that, they will probably, yet again, re-write their history to change the facts behind this whole story and begin teaching the fabricated version of their history at fish camp. After all, its a terdition.

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lol.



I find it ironic that their greatest tradition that is supposed to speak so loudly about their values as a group truly does speak loudly about their values as a group.



Actually, from all I can tell, the rules for eligibility didn't really kick in in the SWC until the fall of 1922. Gill was enrolled as a student and that was the only qualification to be on the team.



One thing that got Charlie Moran in so much trouble when he was coaching at **** was that he would have ringers enroll in the middle of the semester on a Friday afternoon so they could be eligible to play, play on Saturday and drop out of the school on Sunday. Crap like that (and especially dirty play) was why when the SWC was founded in 1915 that **** wasn't allowed to join the conference unless they got rid of Charlie Moran. Moran went on to coach at Centre College against the **** team that played in the E. King Gill 1922 Dixie Classic game. He also went on to a number of other scandals and was later driven out of coaching altogether.



So Gill was eligible. In the fall of 1922, the eligibility rules were tightened to not allow freshmen to play varsity ball, to require the individual be in good standing as a full-time student and to have to sit out a year after transferring institutions. So even under the tighter rules, Gill would still been eligible.



It was because the rules for eligibility were so lax that no one thought a thing about Gill coming down to the field and putting on a uniform. Even if there hadn't been 9 other substitutes standing on the sideline and if Gill wouldn't have come down from the press box, it wouldn't have even been a big deal if the team played with fewer that 11 players. back then, teams having fewer than 11 players in a game happened more than one would think. In the 1894 Harvard-Yale game, Harvard finished the game with just 8 players on the field.



The eligibility rules, the precedent for playing with fewer than 11 players and the fact that even if the team was depleted of substitutes and only one student out of the 2,000 who were there that day was "willing to come to the aid of the team" were elements of E.E. McQuillen's story that were never addressed in the radio play.



Ask yourself what would have happened if Gill had gone in a gotten hurt? If they really needed substitutes and there was such a willingness to come to the aid of the team by the student body don't you think more than one of 2,000 students would have come down and would have done so before having to be begged to do so by the coach?



It is kind of like 2,000 people standing on the shoreline watching a drowning man and not doing anything at the first sign of danger, but waiting until the drowning man was begging for help. And after one guy finally rescued the drowning man the other 1,999 all started to pat themselves on the back and claim moral superiority for their willingness to save the man's life if he were ever drowning.

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The eligibility rules, the precedent for playing with fewer than 11 players and the fact that even if the team was depleted of substitutes and only one student out of the 2,000 who were there that day was "willing to come to the aid of the team" were elements of E.E. McQuillen's story that were never addressed in the radio play.

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"My issue in the whole matter is the aspect of public corruption. When all the dust settles, the one interview I hope I get to see is Chuckie Sonntag. I want to know how he feels knowing everything the university put him through was part of what seems by every possible explanation to be a fraudulent scheme."

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"To refresh memories of anyone who has forgotten, Chuckie Sonntag a double amputee living in Buffalo who was tormented by TAMU officials for his using the '12th Man' phrase (which has long been part of the Buffalo Bills marketing campaign) in a website that was part of a petition drive to encourage the new owners of the team to keep the team in Buffalo. Sonntag was not benefiting financially from the use of the phrase. Sonntag was someone of VERY limited financial resources who as badgered and threatened for months by the university. They threatened to financially destroy him for his use of the phrase."

"After all the dust settles, after the university and its alumni claim they are the ones being treated unfairly and plead that they are the true victims, after they have tried to blame me and make me the villain and after people finally come to their senses and realize that the university's representing their fairy tale as a fact in trademark filings, in federal court pleadings and even in the public arena is inconsistent with what we expect from public employees, I hope someone asks Chuck Sonntag when it feels like to know the people who were threatening to ruin his already meager life were scamming him the entire time."

"So when people say 'Who cares?'or 'Why is this even a subject of discussion?', I respond 'If public employees are involved in corrupt activities and are intentionally seeking to destroy innocent lives, someone needs to tell them to stop.'

This isn't about inter-school rivalries. This isn't about petty jealousies. This is about public corruption. And it needs to stop.

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"We're really pleased with the way the university handled the dispute and we fully recognize Texas A&M is the owner of the '12th Man' trademark," Sonntag was quoted as saying in a joint press release from his group and Texas A&M."

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This morning's Duke diatribe:

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My issue in the whole matter is the aspect of public corruption. When all the dust settles, the one interview I hope I get to see is Chuckie Sonntag. I want to know how he feels knowing everything the university put him through was part of what seems by every possible explanation to be a fraudulent scheme.

To refresh memories of anyone who has forgotten, Chuckie Sonntag a a double amputee living in Buffalo who was tormented by TAMU officials for his using the "12th Man" phrase (which has long been part of the Buffalo Bills marketing campaign) in a website that was part of a petition drive to encourage the new owners of the team to keep the team in Buffalo. Sonntag was not benefiting financially from the use of the phrase. Sonntag was someone of VERY limited financial resources who as badgered and threatened for months by the university. They threatened to financially destroy him for his use of the phrase. And the entire time, TAMU senior administrators knew the whole campaign to destroy this poor guy was part of an elaborate scam to falsely represent their 1922/E. King Gill/radio play fairy tale as factual. The only other possible explanation is that not a single individual in a position of responsibility in the entire TAMU system has actual knowledge of the university's history or traditions. For the administrators at a major public research university system, I find that impossible.

These are public employees acting in the name of the people of the state of Texas. Who is going to be the next target of their scam?

After all the dust settles, after the university and its alumni claim they are the ones being treated unfairly and plead that they are the true victims, after they have tried to blame me and make me the villain and after people finally come to their senses and realize that the university's representing their fairy tale as a fact in trademark filings, in federal court pleadings and even in the public arena is inconsistent with what we expect from public employees, I hope someone asks Chuck Sonntag when it feels like to know the people who were threatening to ruin his already meager life were scamming him the entire time.

So when people say "Who cares?"of "Why is this even a subject of discussion?" I respond "If public employees are involved in corrupt activities and are intentionally seeking to destroy innocent lives, someone needs to tell them to stop." This isn't about inter-school rivalries. This isn't about petty jealousies. This is about public corruption. And it needs to stop.

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That makes me sooo sad. Poor Chuckie.

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I bet these rants disappear when he finally finds a woman of sound mind to consent to sex with him without monetary compensation being involved.

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His latest verbal diarrhea

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It was because the rules for eligibility were so lax that no one thought a thing about Gill coming down to the field and putting on a uniform. Even if there hadn't been 9 other substitutes standing on the sideline and if Gill wouldn't have come down from the press box, it wouldn't have even been a big deal if the team played with fewer that 11 players. back then, teams having fewer than 11 players in a game happened more than one would think. In the 1894 Harvard-Yale game, Harvard finished the game with just 8 players on the field.

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Thanks. Raises an interesting question. He represented himself as an attorney at a law firm in NYC that also has offices in Dallas.

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Doctors are notoriously bad with numbers. If they'd been any good at math they wouldn't have had to find such an unpleasant way to make a living.

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With the information the Colts had, there was no way in hell they were going to pay a dime to the university and the attorneys for the Colts know that by the time the season rolls around this fall, the trademark will be invalidated.

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Our greatest tradition is Muster in my opinion, and I suspect that most Ags feel the same way.

Will he try and save us from ourselves on that too?

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That jackwagon will probably claim this picture wasn't taken on Corregidor.

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I think his next move will be trying to prove the 12 Bonfire deaths were staged because we have an unhealthy obsession with the number 12. Please save us Randy!

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Our greatest tradition is Muster in my opinion, and I suspect that most Ags feel the same way.

Will he try and save us from ourselves on that too?

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That jackwagon will probably claim this picture wasn't taken on Corregidor.

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I think his next move will be trying to prove the 12 Bonfire deaths were staged because we have an unhealthy obsession with the number 12. Please save us Randy!

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After all the dust settles, after the university and its alumni claim they are the ones being treated unfairly and plead that they are the true victims, after they have tried to blame me and make me the villain and after people finally come to their senses and realize that the university's representing their fairy tale as a fact in trademark filings, in federal court pleadings and even in the public arena is inconsistent with what we expect from public employees, I hope someone asks Chuck Sonntag when it feels like to know the people who were threatening to ruin his already meager life were scamming him the entire time.

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and, only later, come kicking and screaming to the conclusion that they need to do whatever it is that is the right to do.

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He went after the War Hymn last Memorial Day. Quite hilarious for us. Not so much for him.

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Yep. And he has gone after -- and failed miserably -- to disprove A&M's WW1 history, A&M's WW2 history, and A&M's patriotic honoring of Medal of Honor recipients who have attended A&M.

Duke is very good at failure.

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He went after the War Hymn last Memorial Day. Quite hilarious for us. Not so much for him.

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Yep. And he has gone after -- and failed miserably -- to disprove A&M's WW1 history, A&M's WW2 history, and A&M's patriotic honoring of Medal of Honor recipients who have attended A&M.

Duke is very good at failure.

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