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Take This Job and Shove It

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jamey
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In the "what's your number" thread regarding your target dollar amount for retirement some mentioned semi retiring meaning we stop working our higher stress and higher pay jobs, and do something simpler while we let our retirement funds grow, even if we aren't putting anything into them.

What's that job for you, for those who figured it out?

What made me think of it to begin with is my stepdaughter makes around $18 / hr delivering
pizza. Call it 36K a year

That also happens to be about how much I'd need to pay my slice of the mortgage, electricy...etc while my 401K continues to grow.

So what's your semi retired job or jobs you've heard of and what they pay. What are you eyeballing?
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should be a useful and insightful thread, while I don't have a well defined answer yet could get some good ideas here as I'm hoping this will be my last 9-5 job after the med device startup I'm with likely gets acquired within a few years after FDA approval and equity pays out
ideally targeting between 50-75x current annual expenses at that point in my early/mid 40s with or without a big payout (though without would rely on several good years of heavy pumping into a bull market)
just over 25x now but while living more frugally (single no kids) than I should be just to max out investing

was gifted this book https://www.amazon.com/Earn-Income-Your-Index-Investments/dp/0578339633 haven't had a chance to read yet, but basically guides on generating passive income from portfolio overwriting/selling covered calls on indexes, which I'll likely have low-mid 7 figure holdings on
anyone doing this have some general insight how sustainable it'd be to cover living expenses on while maintaining portfolio growth?



also figure real estate will be a common topic, would be interested if there were any methods that would involve minimal property management or flipping

anyways interested in seeing this thread evolve
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There's a poster on TexAgs that did something with the stock market for a while.after quitting his day job. He did the whole gig, quit his job, bought an RV and loaded up the family. I think he learned some from OldArmy1. Next time I run across him I'll point him this direction. I dont think he's doing it any more but I thought the idea sounded awesome

I think better the horses and college football is more up my alley. I've learned my 30K dollar lesson picking stocks

PS, if there's a mod who can rename.the thread title....

"Take this job and shove it!"
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I'm in my late 30's with close to a million net worth, should get to the millionaire club sometime this year barring a major stock market collapse. I'm single with no kids. I think I can probably get to $2MM by age 40.

My goal is $5MM by age 45. That would allow me to quit the corporate rat race and just focus on my side gigs that bring in an extra $40-50k+ in income, grow this side income, and live off a small % of the $5MM as well. The plan is to have the $5MM grow to $10MM+ or so by the time retirement age hits.

Of course, this plan could get derailed at anytime if I get married, kids, lay off, recession, market collapse etc. But this is the plan for now!
CS78
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Rent houses for me. Typically spend about 2 hours per month per house on management and doing some repairs myself.

I haven't cranked the numbers lately, but I was getting about $500/ month net income for every $100k in equity. Or 6% income to spend. Then you have appreciation on top of that to keep up with inflation.

I treat my tenants like my customers and tend to have very low drama/ turnover.
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We're initiating "Coast FIRE" this year at 36.

My wife has an easy downshift path being a Nurse Practitioner. Her papers are in and she starts .5FTE this summer. She works 12s, so that nets to 6 shifts per month.

I'm about to put papers in for a leave of absence (20% pay) from mega-firm consulting. We have a Sprinter conversion delivering in May and our daughter stats K this August. We'll be launching from OR on a lot of trips this summer.

As for what's next for me, I'm not sure but it won't be at another firm. I'm a MBA pivot from CIVE (6 yrs. exp) to M&A (7 yrs. exp). My initial plan is to go independent and be picky with projects. The problem with that is I don't like selling consulting/myself (one of the reasons I'm being counseled out), so would be dependent on the MBO shops of the world/recruiter placement model for gigs.

In all honesty though, I need a cooling-off period before I really settle into what's next. I know I'm in a bit of flight mode and have jumped all over the place with ideas: home inspector / drone inspector (I still have my PE); I applied to ski patrol (lol, has a 1.5 hr. commute for min wage); I've looked into ski boot fitter and bike fitting; I've looked at going to YoungLife and other non-profits; I interviewed for an adjunct teaching position at local comm college ($3k / class / semester is sub min wage). I'm also applying back into industry. If I get the right offer, I'd suck it up for another few years to hit full FI vs. coasting across the line.

I briefly thought about REI / retail at my local ski or bike shop. Time autonomy is still my ultimate goal; so if I'm working, at all, I still want a decent $/hr.
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Great thread. I'm 41, single, no kids, NW around $1.5MM. My job will be phased out in 4 years due to gov policies and company direction. Once that day comes, I plan on taking any severance, renting out my house and taking 2 years to travel the world. Or I will sell it if the price is right, I really don't want the headache and it would probably be tax beneficial to sell it.

As far as the next step? I think about it so much. My job has always been high stress and high pay. I have never had a job I was not on call 24/7 and I cannot remember the last time I went more than 3 nights without a late night operations phone call. I recently finished my TEFL (teach English as foreign language). It has always been a dream to live in a foreign country for a year and teach kids. While it isn't glamorous or pay is minimal, it is about the experience. Part of me wants to learn a new skill so that I can maybe start something online as I travel or work part time as a consultant, but nothing comes to mind yet. I just cant find anything that I am really interested in that fits the bill. I think that once I set out on this adventure, God will put me in the right place at the right time and I will find a new calling. That has summed up my career to this point and I have faith he will show me the way.

I grew up poor and live cheap as it is, so I don't need a lot to live. My Dad worked till he was 66 and is now 71 and can barely move and wont get to spend any of his retirement doing things he loves. He lives vicariously through me and my current travels and experiences. It is a happy moment for each of us to discuss travel and things we have done together or I am embarking on. He should have walked away at 62 like he planned, but he was so loyal to the company. I live life about the experiences and not for the next dime in my pocket. I am totally okay with living a more meager lifestyle doing what I want and how I want, than being a slave to a corporation then having a few miserable years in my 60s.
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You guys that are single with no kids are cheating the system.
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South Platte said:

You guys that are single with no kids are cheating the system.
Lol yeah. We got it in gear a few years ago with my wife and I both having pretty solid careers. Then baby #1 came. Then she quit working. Then baby #2 came. I've watched all my investment contributions stop over the last year. Just gotta make it a few years and then the kids go to school and wife goes back to work, with all her income going into the market.
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A very expensive handy man business.
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I think about this a lot as well.

My wife and I both turn 40 in the next month. I am in software sales w/a net worth around 1.5M, not including the 286k we have saved in our boys 529 accounts (they're a freshman, 6th grader and 3rd grader). Yes, we probably have overfunded them.

We have been contributing around 50k or so per year to retirement (including my company match) and my wife is a lawyer turned stay-at-home mom and PTA president, which brings in zero dollars a year salary plus benefits. Our oldest son will go to college when we're 43. At that point, she will get a full time job and we'll begin real estate investing. By my math, we would be able to retire pretty darn lavishly in our mid to late 50s with:

1. 4M in 401k/IRAs
2. 400k in cash/emergency/opportunity fund that we could use to invest in new opportunities as they arise.
3. 100k per year in real estate income.
4. 350k+ in HSA

I'm not counting on any social security. It won't be there.

I don't want to completely bag work. I'd love to do things I consider fun, including CRM consulting and integration, or become a golf caddie.
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bmks270 said:

A very expensive handy man business.

I think the best way to do this is with yourself as an only customer, either on your own properties or building items to sell (I'min the process of collecting ideas/ building prototypes for this) . Most people don't care about good work and definitely don't want to pay for it, and high paying clients are going to be demanding.

I have a friend who semi-retired and works at a high end grocery store 35 hours or whatever he has to to get health insurance. He's a huge foodie and great cook so for him it's hanging out with like minded folks and getting discounts on expensive groceries. I think I'd like to do similar as a brewer. One of the jobs that has stuck with me as seeming like a lot of fun but not paying well is the dude who got hired to start the brewery in the galleria whole foods. Great benefits, minimal budget constraints, but he probably has to deal with his share of corporate bs.
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CS78 said:


I haven't cranked the numbers lately, but I was getting about $500/ month net income for every $100k in equity. Or 6% income to spend. Then you have appreciation on top of that to keep up with inflation.

That's amazing, i didn't think it was still possible
Cyp0111
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Awesome. I'm almost 40 and about 5 years away from this. Could be sooner but my expenses are high with kids and expensive wife.
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curious how you're planning to double a portfolio within a year
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SouthAustinAgSwag said:


4. 350k+ in HSA


did your HSA allow crypto options plays or how does this happen
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Following this closely as this is my exact situation. Stuck it out in oil and gas and I'm about one more year I'm out for good…
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EliteZags said:

curious how you're planning to double a portfolio within a year


I have about 2.5 years to double. I'm just basing it on my current savings rate + investment returns. Plus my overall income is expected to go a lot higher next year. I may not get to $2MM by age 40 but I'll probably get close. Either way, I'll still be saving/investing 60-70% of my paycheck and shoot for the stars lol.
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EliteZags said:

SouthAustinAgSwag said:


4. 350k+ in HSA


did your HSA allow crypto options plays or how does this happen
Depends on how long he's been contributing to that HSA, and he's talking about it being 350k+ in 15 or so years. At the current contribution limit, if he maxed it out every year he would have about $125k just in contributions (that's assuming max contribution stays at $8,300 annually; which we know is not the case - it should rise annually).

If you assume an average annual 2% increase in the contribution limit going forward, he could have over $150k in contributions, not counting any growth. I would think $350k would be attainable if he's been on an HDHP HSA plan for a while already and you assume 7% growth annually in the invested portion of his HSA.
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EliteZags said:

SouthAustinAgSwag said:


4. 350k+ in HSA


did your HSA allow crypto options plays or how does this happen
No clue. I have zero interest in crypto.
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I've thought about this A LOT and started planning/taking action about 5 years ago.

Wife and I bought a place in Park City, UT very close to Deer Valley about a year ago. I'll retire from the grind in the summer of 2028 at age 57 and be a part-time mountain guide of some sort (ski/mountain bike instructor, etc) at Deer Valley Resort. Mostly for the social interaction, active lifestyle and ski + mountain bike lift perks. No idea what the pay is, and really don't care. I've been visiting Park City, UT at least 4 times a year since 2010.

Goal is to be as physically, mentally, and socially active as possible in my late 50s til ~80 years old. I've gotten to know a few folks in their mid 70s that has taught me a lot.
Cyp0111
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You win. What an amazing setup
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Correct. I have 40k in my current HSA. Even if the current contribution limits stay the same, I should be around 350k in 15-18 years. And my employer currently puts in 1500 per year.
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Goal is to work about 10 more years, then work the gun counter at Scheels for awhile, spend all of my retirement on new guns with the sweet discount, then go back to work as a consultant and die in my office chair.
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So, we've partially completed our plan. I'm 50 and retired from corporate at 47. I did some independent consulting for the first 6-8 months of being retired. Didn't really enjoy it so then just gardened, did some volunteer work, and generally sabbaticaled for the next 18 months. The plan was for me to find something less corporate to do and for us to move out of Dallas and get debt free.

We accomplished the latter and now live on the coast. However, I ended up taking a ground floor job at a startup to help owner build a platform for his new company. Not very stress free but I've learned a ton and the upside is enormous. My compensation is actually less than it was which is offset by the fact that there are just a handful of us, no HR, and no corporate bull***** So, while you might be thinking you will go work at Home Depot and sidle off into the sun you never know what might be thrown your way. This deal came out of nowhere and it was interesting enough that I decided to go ahead and jump on it even though I knew it wasn't going to be the stress-free Home Depot job.

Wife has also since retired at 47 and is slowly working on her own LLC to consult in her area of expertise. Our life has utterly changed from corporate rat race in Dallas to quite a slow and quiet existence on the coast. Just kind of wild because it all happened in matter of about 2 years.
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Which coast?
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jamey
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I just want a job that's simple and pays 36K to 40K or so but I will need insurance

That could be anything from pizza delivery to I don't know what. Open for suggestions

In another life back in the 1990s I worked as a medical technologist but I wouldn't want to do that again even if they'd take my experience from 25 years ago but perhaps something else in the medical field.
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Would teaching be an option? Probably not for me, but that might fit your list well.
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BenTheGoodAg said:

Would teaching be an option? Probably not for me, but that might fit your list well.


I've thought about that, today in fact. One problem I see is you stop paying into social security as I understand it and that's another thing that crossed my mind


If I go from six figures to 36K at say age 57, will thst meaningfully impact my Social Security payout at age 65?
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jamey said:

BenTheGoodAg said:

Would teaching be an option? Probably not for me, but that might fit your list well.
I've thought about that, today in fact. One problem I see is you stop paying into social security as I understand it and that's another thing that crossed my mind


If I go from six figures to 36K at say age 57, will thst meaningfully impact my Social Security payout at age 65?
Welcome to the wonderful world of Social Security bend points ( https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/piaformula.html ).

ELI5: ~$420k of your first career earnings are 90% efficient to our SS payment (1st bend); between $420 and ~$2.5 earning are 32% efficient (2nd bend); >$2.5 are only 15% efficient. Point being, if you've reached the second bend point, the juice is no longer worth the squeeze for SS.
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RangerRick9211 said:

jamey said:

BenTheGoodAg said:

Would teaching be an option? Probably not for me, but that might fit your list well.
I've thought about that, today in fact. One problem I see is you stop paying into social security as I understand it and that's another thing that crossed my mind


If I go from six figures to 36K at say age 57, will thst meaningfully impact my Social Security payout at age 65?
Welcome to the wonderful world of Social Security bend points ( https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/piaformula.html ).

ELI5: ~$420k of your first career earnings are 90% efficient to our SS payment (1st bend); between $420 and ~$2.5 earning are 32% efficient (2nd bend); >$2.5 are only 15% efficient. Point being, if you've reached the second bend point, the juice is no longer worth the squeeze for SS.


Does that basically mean at 57 years old, my SS already is what it is going to be?
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