agreed...sometimes a guy might have to get snooty at a place like that

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LMCane said:
I always thought that being a Maitre De at a decent restaurant in Florida would be a pretty good gig just to pay the mortgage each month.

get some exercise standing, dress up a bit, look at pretty women, how much stress is there putting people at different tables?

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At a place nice enough to have a Maitre De I would imagine the stress is high dealing with that clientele.

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Yeah that sounds miserable to me.

I'm going to stick with mowing the rough at the golf course. Jackets and ties are overrated.

Having a mortgage in retirement sounds miserable to me. Taking a job for the purpose of paying said mortgage sounds even worse.

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There is a headhunting group in my career field that offers part time contract employment, one right now in Napa Valley CA (defense contracting sphere)

so that would seem less stressful and pretty interesting to spend 6 months out in wine country of California

at the same time, to another posters point- is it worth it to still put up with the @#$# for much less money than I am making now?

it's hard to find the correct balance between:

1) "your health will be greatly improved by retiring" versus

2) "you will likely die quickly by retiring and not having to work which gives your life some meaning"

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Worked in the same location as a guy one time that had a low level but stable government job.

You'd see the guy on occasion and he'd promptly tell you he was a short timer and how many days he had till retirement.

Retired and was dead within a couple weeks.

Turns out the only thing keeping him from being a non-functional alcoholic was showing up to work every day.

Seen some folk over the years where work is their sole existence for living and they have no identity other than work.

Others don't have this problem at all. Guess it depends on the individual but I'd guess some percentage of the population is like this.

It's not that work is my identity, and I suspect many on this thread feel the same, it's more that I have a large amount of time and energy committed to work. If I was to retire or have something part time that takes significantly less focus than my current corporate job I would need an outlet to invest that time/energy in.

Idle hands and the devil and all that…

Maybe I'm not understanding your post...but 82 is elderly ish?

Drinking beer and watching sports every day at 82 doesn't sound that bad. I don't necessarily want to be doing that every day at 60 or 70, 75...but got damn at 82 that sounds like winning.

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Maybe I'm not understanding your post...but 82 is elderly ish?

Drinking beer and watching sports every day at 82 doesn't sound that bad. I don't necessarily want to be doing that every day at 60 or 70, 75...but got damn at 82 that sounds like winning.

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doing ANYTHING at age 82 is winning.

My 80 something year old neighbor walked 18 holes this afternoon with his pushcart. Amazing what people that stay active and eliminate stress can do. He's my hero.

I cannot comprehend how a grown adult doesn't have their own hobbies. I get working hard, I get being there for family, but doing these should also mean you are taking care of yourself. I would be an even bigger hole if I didn't do my hobbies. It is how I can recharge and be all in for my family when I am there.

Also, I would walk away tomorrow if I had enough money and just do my hobby more.

There's a BIG difference between a hobby or pursuit that you spend maybe five hours a month on (my pitiful excuse for a golf game for example) and something that's engaging enough to saturate the time and energy and focus that a big boy job demands when the absence of that becomes a vacuum

You literally wire yourself to clock in, kiss ass, and run the rat race for thirty odd years well enough that you can give the kids a better life than you were raised with, have the material wealth to retire early, etc - that's not insignificant. Now all of a sudden that energy that you had attenuated to providing needs to go into something else. Ok so say you play golf, ski a few days a year, hunt a couple weekends with the kids at the family lease or land. Scaling that to something that you can invest in twenty plus hours per week is not insignificant. It's a valid concern.

Pasquale Liucci said:

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There's a BIG difference between a hobby or pursuit that you spend maybe five hours a month on (my pitiful excuse for a golf game for example) and something that's engaging enough to saturate the time and energy and focus that a big boy job demands when the absence of that becomes a vacuum

You literally wire yourself to clock in, kiss ass, and run the rat race for thirty odd years well enough that you can give the kids a better life than you were raised with, have the material wealth to retire early, etc - that's not insignificant. Now all of a sudden that energy that you had attenuated to providing needs to go into something else. Ok so say you play golf, ski a few days a year, hunt a couple weekends with the kids at the family lease or land. Scaling that to something that you can invest in twenty plus hours per week is not insignificant. It's a valid concern.

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I spend minimum 35 hours a month on my hobby. I know the exact amount of time over the last 5 years. I would spend 35 hours a week if I had the financial means.

Edit: 5 hours a month isn't a hobby, you spend more than 5 hours a month pooping. If you truly find something you enjoy you would make time to engage in it.

That's awesome, kudos to you. Consider yourself lucky. I can't comprehend having 35 hours a month even to spend on a hobby or recreational pursuit. I have kids 4, 3, 1, and wife is seven months pregnant. It's a good month if I get in a round of golf or a trip or two to the driving range.

That will change as the kids get older and they can join in with me, whether that's golf, maintaining the feeders and food plots on our family land an hour away, etc, but I'm just saying it's a valid concern

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There's a BIG difference between a hobby or pursuit that you spend maybe five hours a month on (my pitiful excuse for a golf game for example) and something that's engaging enough to saturate the time and energy and focus that a big boy job demands when the absence of that becomes a vacuum

You literally wire yourself to clock in, kiss ass, and run the rat race for thirty odd years well enough that you can give the kids a better life than you were raised with, have the material wealth to retire early, etc - that's not insignificant. Now all of a sudden that energy that you had attenuated to providing needs to go into something else. Ok so say you play golf, ski a few days a year, hunt a couple weekends with the kids at the family lease or land. Scaling that to something that you can invest in twenty plus hours per week is not insignificant. It's a valid concern.

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I spend minimum 35 hours a month on my hobby. I know the exact amount of time over the last 5 years. I would spend 35 hours a week if I had the financial means.

Edit: 5 hours a month isn't a hobby, you spend more than 5 hours a month pooping. If you truly find something you enjoy you would make time to engage in it.

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Amen. If you want something bad enough in life, you will find the time and the means. Most people just choose not to put in the work to do what makes them happy and settle.

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I can't comprehend having 35 hours a month even to spend on a hobby or recreational pursuit. I have kids 4, 3, 1, and wife is seven months pregnant.

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Sounds like you already have a hobby/recreational pursuit

Personally, I always make excuses for not doing more for myself. That I don't have the time, or the energy, etc. And while my day is packed full of job and kids stuff, when Sunday rolls around and my iphone tells me how many hours I've spent on it per day. Yeeesh!

Looks like there actually was time to work out or read a book and I just chose not to.

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There's a BIG difference between a hobby or pursuit that you spend maybe five hours a month on (my pitiful excuse for a golf game for example) and something that's engaging enough to saturate the time and energy and focus that a big boy job demands when the absence of that becomes a vacuum

You literally wire yourself to clock in, kiss ass, and run the rat race for thirty odd years well enough that you can give the kids a better life than you were raised with, have the material wealth to retire early, etc - that's not insignificant. Now all of a sudden that energy that you had attenuated to providing needs to go into something else. Ok so say you play golf, ski a few days a year, hunt a couple weekends with the kids at the family lease or land. Scaling that to something that you can invest in twenty plus hours per week is not insignificant. It's a valid concern.

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reading TEXAGS
writing a book of history non-fiction
going to the gym
taking a walk
watching Youtube podcasts
Netflix
going to beach (living in Florida)
building a model German SDKFZ personnel carrier
reading philosophy

I think there is plenty to keep oneself occupied every day in retirement.

it's just a question as to whether 1.2 million dollars is enough to do it.

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Retirement plan for me is to travel around and watch rocket launches.

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You going to Israel or Ukraine?

Can't mow the golf course after dark but I was able to see the Space X earlier this week.

SpaceX as seen above Fountain Hills, AZ tonight! #SpaceX pic.twitter.com/72qINrYmPR

— Cira Storms (@sonoranstorms) April 2, 2024

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the downside to living there is that if we get into a global thermal nuclear war, the odds of surviving the first blasts is about 1%

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Not a downside, that's just smart planning.

I know several engineers that worked in state/local government to qualify for the pension, retire, and then go into consulting for 25 hours a week and get 2x salary for 10-15 more years.

Not a bad idea for a partial retirement.

This. If it's a beautiful Tuesday at 2 PM I want to be able to go for a run. Not sitting in another meeting in a windowless conference room.