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El_duderino
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Think this has much affect on the macro before further downside risk with all the other negatives you listed?
ProgN
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I don't think it will have much of positive jump for long, if any at all.
confucius_ag
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Looks like is an agreement only until January
EliteZags
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My PLTR position trying it's damndest to out earn my income this year
El_duderino
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That's what I was thinking. Especially with the MACD bearish cross complete after today
Brian Earl Spilner
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Port strike over.

Green tomorrow.
TTUArmy
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I hope to God you permabulls still remember how to short on the way down.
El_duderino
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I believe they're called puts
BucketofBalls99
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PLTR - anyone else seeing a possible pullback around mid month (Oct) or so? I was talking to a buddy who thinks it may go to $42ish before then. If so, he's going to sell and then he expects a pullback to around $30, at which point he will buy back in.

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these shares and share count are way too valuable for me to play that gambling game
I'm healthily up on every single one of my prob close to triple digit number of buys (most of them smaller) over 3 years, have never sold a single share and only regret is not going heavier

this is a decade long ten bagger aiming hold for me
Heineken-Ashi
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BucketofBalls99 said:

PLTR - anyone else seeing a possible pullback around mid month (Oct) or so? I was talking to a buddy who thinks it may go to $42ish before then. If so, he's going to sell and then he expects a pullback to around $30, at which point he will buy back in.


I called the top months ago and was wrong. I still believe it's in a topping process. I'm scared to make a call again because calling tops puts your nuts on the line to get rung out. And you potentially mislead people. And you often end up wrong, as history seems to also show that things can extend far more than logic, fundamentals, or even market sentiment which I fully subscribe to seem to suggest.

What I would say is don't go initiating any new speculative trades based on thinking a top is in. If you own, don't plan to own longer term, won't kick yourself if its $100 in 5 years, and want to make sure you maximize your profit, then sell it. Or sell calls. Or buy puts. Maybe sell longer dated puts at price you'd be willing to jump back in.. say $30 (haven't looked up if the premium is even worth much there). But barring a cataclysmic event, you will have notice that a top is potentially in. And you will even have a last chance to get out when the first move attempts to retrace back up. You don't need to perfectly time the top in "most cases".

What was your target when you bought? What was your goal? If those have been met, then remove your risk. If they haven't, then what more do you need? What lower price makes you kick yourself for being stupid? Answer all of those questions and form a plan. But don't trade based on predicting a top. It will kill you 9 times out of 10.
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I bought PLTR in the 29-36 range and my average is 31.64. I could sell some of the higher cost lots and lower my average a little buying back if it dropped to 30 but it would still be an average over $29

Might as well just forget i have it and check back in 5 years.
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PLTR - all notes on chart.



The thing I keep coming back to on PLTR is that it isn't moving into its higher ranges in truly impulsive fashion. What I mean, is that the lows of the each range for the past year are dipping into the highs and mids of the previous range. This is not indicative of a stock that is going explode up higher. Compare this year to the explosion upward in 2023 where every low held above a previous high. When you get to the part where waves, or ranges, or periods, or whatever you want to call them start to overlap, that usually points to exhaustion of trend. It doesn't mean it's going to end immediately. But it tells you that with each move bulls are having to fight harder to move less distance and are having a harder time keeping bears from pulling it back. Eventually, bulls run out of steam until bears get theirs. And we have negative divergence on the top line showing that an end is near. Like I said on my divergence post a week or two ago, divergence doesn't predict exact timing. But it does tell you something is coming. I don't think PLTR is quite there. It probably has another move up or two. Could be slight, could be large. But it's running out of room to the upside, bulls are running out of ammo, and fundamental valuation is getting extreme. When the bears finally win, they will retrace this to somewhere between 38.2% and 61.8% of the entire move up off the low, usually between 1/2 the time to the full time that it took the move up to complete from bottom to top. That range is $15-$20 and will mark the next generational buying opportunity for this stock where the next 5-10 years takes its north of $100.

If you are long term hold, then hold. Only sell if it gets below 61.8% retracement level in log mode, as below that and long term shifts from impulsive potential to longer drawn out choppy up and down with lower terminal target.. at best.. and at worst its open to straight up not performing at all. If you can't stomach a $15-$25 drop, then wait for an initial move down like it had on Aug 5th. Notice how that one didn't make a new low below the green trendline. You will know it's over when the trendline breaks and RSI makes a lower low below the yellow line. But you will then get a retracement 38%-100% upward of that initial move down. That is the area you sell before the final down wave. That process could take years. And could take patience. If you don't think you can sit through that, then layer on protection in the form of puts or sell out now.
BucketofBalls99
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Thank you all so much! This is really a great wealth of knowledge to take in

(Btw, I bought in at $24 back in '21)
EnronAg
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edited as not to take away from the great info you guys provide on this forum...
sts7049
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another day, another daily post lamenting the propped up fake market
EnronAg
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I believe you misread my post, but have a good day, sir...let's just enjoy the gains while they last...
confucius_ag
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Fading this bump.
Heineken-Ashi
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Buying TLT. Stop would be $89-$92 range but I'm not giving mine a stop for now. This is a "hunch play" which I rarely do. But TLT hit support on multiple timeframes and I still believe yields will come lower through this year and first half of next. $110 is not highest target. Just the first one.
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jamey said:

I bought PLTR in the 29-36 range and my average is 31.64. I could sell some of the higher cost lots and lower my average a little buying back if it dropped to 30 but it would still be an average over $29

Might as well just forget i have it and check back in 5 years.
I'm about to collar half my position with the 1/17/25, $46C and $36P. For $10 per 100 shares I'm capping my upside at ~15% and limiting my downside to ~10% from current prices. I've been doing this with some of my larger positions to keep some upside.
I bleed maroon
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Chef Elko said:

jamey said:

I bought PLTR in the 29-36 range and my average is 31.64. I could sell some of the higher cost lots and lower my average a little buying back if it dropped to 30 but it would still be an average over $29

Might as well just forget i have it and check back in 5 years.
I'm about to collar half my position with the 1/17/25, $46C and $36P. For $10 per 100 shares I'm capping my upside at ~15% and limiting my downside to ~10% from current prices. I've been doing this with some of my larger positions to keep some upside.
Good thinking.

I have Dec $40 covered calls on half my position (acquired at $9.50, around IPO time in 2020), but after some thought, I bought some Jan 2026 $30 LEAPS a few months ago that are looking pretty good (up ~200%). Sold 1/4, have an active order to sell 1/4 more, and I'm gonna ride with the remaining 50% of those.
Heineken-Ashi
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I bleed maroon said:

Chef Elko said:

jamey said:

I bought PLTR in the 29-36 range and my average is 31.64. I could sell some of the higher cost lots and lower my average a little buying back if it dropped to 30 but it would still be an average over $29

Might as well just forget i have it and check back in 5 years.
I'm about to collar half my position with the 1/17/25, $46C and $36P. For $10 per 100 shares I'm capping my upside at ~15% and limiting my downside to ~10% from current prices. I've been doing this with some of my larger positions to keep some upside.
Good thinking.

I have Dec $40 covered calls on half my position (acquired at $9.50, around IPO time in 2020), but after some thought, I bought some Jan 2026 $30 LEAPS a few months ago that are looking pretty good (up ~200%). Sold 1/4, have an active order to sell 1/4 more, and I'm gonna ride with the remaining 50% of those.
Very well done sir.
Heineken-Ashi
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POWL - significant break of upper trendline. Use that trendline as support now. You don't want to see it get back under.
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Heineken or other chart wizards - what are your thoughts on ZIM? It is been good to me lately. My business partner is a horn who says the stock board on the tu site is high on ZIM - primarily bc of the dividend.

A war could cause a buying opportunity if you like the chart.
hedge
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Gross dump
Heineken-Ashi
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In on ZIM. Stop just below $15.75. Target $37.

Edit. Lowering target to $33. Would need an extension to get to $37 which is certainly possible (compares this chart to PLTR earlier this year.
Heineken-Ashi
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plowe32 said:

Heineken or other chart wizards - what are your thoughts on ZIM? It is been good to me lately. My business partner is a horn who says the stock board on the tu site is high on ZIM - primarily bc of the dividend.

A war could cause a buying opportunity if you like the chart.
Ha, didn't see this post before I posted. Here was my chart from a week or two ago on this thread.



It broke above green but then came back in the zone. I'm viewing it is a lucky break to get shares cheap with a great R/R.
Happygilmore20
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SLV broke through 29.50 resistance
Joseph Freshwater, Sr
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BLNK moving a little.
Heineken-Ashi
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Happygilmore20 said:

SLV broke through 29.50 resistance
Happygilmore20
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Although I was correct, I may have jinxed it
Heineken-Ashi
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BLNK - stop moved up to $1.80. The original play was $1.50 stop and net free around $2.50. Now there's no loss potential and only profit potential. Below $1.80 and the overlapping nature changes the entire dynamics of my expectations and opens up a new low as a possibility. So being stopped there would give me my money back to reallocate to catching a real trend.
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The markets doesn't react to news like you think it will. Case #5,452,931,856

Quote:

ZIM Integrated Shipping Services Ltd. (NYSE:ZIM) stock is moving lower on Friday after the International Longshoremen's Association, the union that advocates for U.S. dockworkers currently on strike, suspended its strike until January 15.
So it went up when a potential strike was coming, kept going up after announcement of strike, and is now going down when strike is suspended.



Turn off the news. Focus on your strategy. News won't tell you what trade to make. News =/= causality. At any given time financial media can find SOMETHING to explain what is happening. But funny enough, they rarely if ever find something that accurately predicts price movement. It's always looking backward. It will always cloud your judgement and leave you looking in the wrong direction.
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I've come to the realization that there are a lot more people and forces out there with a lot more money and resources than me who can basically make any stock do whatever they want whenever they want if they have a mind to do so.

So stuff like that can be data points but ultimately it's never as simple as good news good bad news bad.
idAg09
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Exxon on the verge of a new 52 wk high
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