Something spooked the market.
Heineken-Ashi said:I personally don't mess around with anything outside of standard puts and calls. I have enough on my plate that trying to manipulate windows of risk and reward through options just doesn't match my strategies. I admire those who do and are successful.BlueTaze said:
Per #7, do you ever look at trading a call credit spread on NVDA? Maybe 2-3 weeks out, lil below the strike?
The 610/615 spread trading around $4 credit currently on these for Feb 16. Seems safer than buying puts to fade this parabolic move.
ProgN said:
I playing a lotto and bot 10 SPY 498c @ .06
I have a suspicion SPY wants 500 today. $60 is worth the gamble
Me too. I also bought 500s a couple weeks out. Those are looking lots better at the moment.Talon2DSO said:ProgN said:
I playing a lotto and bot 10 SPY 498c @ .06
I have a suspicion SPY wants 500 today. $60 is worth the gamble
I'm your ride or die. I'm in
It's not. Risk management is key. But no reason to stop playing as long as you have your R/R identified.Philip J Fry said:
This market just doesn't feel sustainable.
Without going into too many technical details, a move like we've had since October will likely be 100% retraced, and probably rather quickly, once this tops. Will it be this week? A couple months? Election timing? Nobody knows. But moves off a major low like we've had, with this small of pullbacks along the way, do not ever end well. In fact, I can't think of another time we had this robust of a move, this quickly, with no significant pullbacks. We're already outpacing the late 1999 / early 2000 fractal. Look how quickly it came all the way down in 2000 after topping.Philip J Fry said:
So the question is will the crash be as violent as this pop up has been?
I'm going to start parking some profits and build a position in the Aug SPY 450p one contract at a time. Those are looking very good to me at the moment.Philip J Fry said:
So the question is will the crash be as violent as this pop up has been?
Heineken-Ashi said:
Ok, I'm going lotto on some IWM $195's. Not advising to follow me.
I would agree wholeheartedly, but I've seen the argument that the market is just making up for a mostly sideways 2022. It's hard to say.Heineken-Ashi said:Without going into too many technical details, a move like we've had since October will likely be 100% retraced, and probably rather quickly, once this tops. Will it be this week? A couple months? Election timing? Nobody knows. But moves off a major low like we've had, with this small of pullbacks along the way, do not ever end well. In fact, I can't think of another time we had this robust of a move, this quickly, with no significant pullbacks. We're already outpacing the late 1999 / early 2000 fractal. Look how quickly it came all the way down in 2000 after topping.Philip J Fry said:
So the question is will the crash be as violent as this pop up has been?
Risk management risk management risk management.
How so?Heineken-Ashi said:
Nothing sideways about 2022. It erased half the post COVID move. Market doesn't make up for anything. It was extremely overheated in 2021. It's even more overheated now. 2022 lows can be seen again.
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— Todd in the Shadows (@ShadowTodd) February 2, 2024
Market is millions upon millions of people, institutions, and retirement accounts all with their own inherent bullishness, bearishness, logic, and stupididty. There is no set "well we dropped big last year so lets now make up for it". There's a lot more going on. And right now, FED liquidity has been the main driver. Second place is inflationary prices leading to higher earnings on lowering revenues. A handful of companies are propping up the entire thing. This has happened before.Brian Earl Spilner said:How so?Heineken-Ashi said:
Nothing sideways about 2022. It erased half the post COVID move. Market doesn't make up for anything. It was extremely overheated in 2021. It's even more overheated now. 2022 lows can be seen again.
Likely and possible are two different things. Nobody can know. I look for context clues in history. And they aren't kind looking forward. Would love nothing more than to be wrong. But right now, it's not wise to be betting on higher forever.Brian Earl Spilner said:
I mean when stocks start recovering from a bear market, it seems to me the lower the market dropped, the longer it can sustain a bull market afterward.
I agree that 2021 was overextended, but 2022 gave a lot of that back.
I certainly agree there will be a healthy pullback, but I'm just not convinced 2022 lows are as likely as you make it sound.