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Anyone watching IEP after the Hindenburg report? Inflated NAV and unsustainable dividend rate was noted in the report. Taking big swings at Carl Icahn with the report.
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Danwell Home said:

Anyone watching IEP after the Hindenburg report? Inflated NAV and unsustainable dividend rate was noted in the report. Taking big swings at Carl Icahn with the report.


Will retrace but don't want to get in on something like that
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I don't know how long it will last, but 2023 sure has been chop/bounce/fall rinse & repeat so far.
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

Danwell Home said:

Anyone watching IEP after the Hindenburg report? Inflated NAV and unsustainable dividend rate was noted in the report. Taking big swings at Carl Icahn with the report.


Will retrace but don't want to get in on something like that
yea, I wouldn't want to mess with that.

I'm sure things will get messy with Hindenburg going after this titan. I'd end up just being collateral in the mess.

Remember Bill Ackman vs. Herbalife (Icahn)?
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ACGN went to the moon all of a sudden on huge volumes, any news?
Spoony Love
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Looks like SPY is all settled in for FOMC
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gougler08 said:

ACGN went to the moon all of a sudden on huge volumes, any news?
Have been looking and can't find anything, but something is up.
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WWR with a explosion move back to $1.05. Get above $1.10 and the August $2 calls should bid $0.20. That would be a great target if you didn't have your GTC sell order overnight in place. I got to buy back all the shares that sold at $1.20. What's not to like?!
Charismatic Megafauna
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Fsly flushing. Leak or shakeout?
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Charismatic Megafauna said:

Fsly flushing. Leak or shakeout?

Amazon's earnings statements on their cloud services point to some risk here for FSLY.

topher06
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1 hour til the market pukes or rockets.
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Por que no los dos?
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It's okay to do nothing guys.
oldarmy1
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

It's okay to do nothing guys.
It certainly is!

The unwinding of not only today's options but next several days will be wild. Direction will come sometime after the unwinding.,

krosch11
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Call that the Billy Bob puke and rally
oldarmy1
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And no one is surprised!
topher06
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Anyone playing the announcement?
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Don't know. You're dealing with IV crush and theta. Bad combo man.
topher06
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Oh, I'm not playing it except through a couple of covered calls on some of my SPY shares. I just want to live vicariously.
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

Don't know. You're dealing with IV crush and theta. Bad combo man.


Hey bud. So are you doing this full time now or still managing the corporate world alongside?

As for FOMC, I wouldn't play it. I don't do much in equities (or really the dollar) anymore, but what little I have played, I did take a SPY 415 call yesterday and ran it for a 60% gain this morning. That's how you play these choppy, government backed markets.
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Mostly Foggy Recollection said:

$30,000 Millionaire said:

Don't know. You're dealing with IV crush and theta. Bad combo man.


Hey bud. So are you doing this full time now or still managing the corporate world alongside?

As for FOMC, I wouldn't play it. I don't do much in equities (or really the dollar) anymore, but what little I have played, I did take a SPY 415 call yesterday and ran it for a 60% gain this morning. That's how you play these choppy, government backed markets.
Nice to see you again Foggy, I hope all is well with you.
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topher06 said:

Anyone playing the announcement?
Only trading positions for FED I have is May 8 $420 25% of the total June $380 SPY Puts. So if I have 100 June Puts I have 25 May 8 SPY $420 calls. Bought those calls yesterday once the pivot confirmed off lows.

Here is my current look at SPX.



Mostly Foggy Recollection
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Hey ProgN! I'm well, just raising two men and in the process of moving.

I hope all is well with you and yours.
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topher06
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IV crush got anyone playing so far, good call on the sit this one out.
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topher06 said:

IV crush got anyone playing so far, good call on the sit this one out.
yup. The first 1 minute candle is always fascinating and a site to see.
cryption
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It's a wild candle I tell you what
Heineken-Ashi
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Let me guess..

"We are going to stay at this level and monitor the data as it comes in to determine the path for future meetings"

The FED will not be lowering, but they will continue to kick the can and let the market think they might.

Remember, if they lower, inflation comes roaring back and the problems in our economy stay and likely get worse. If they raise, the create a quicker pathway and a deeper immediate drop with banking and commercial real estate contagions. If they stay right here for 1-2 years and constantly make the market think they might be dovish sometime in the future, the market will slowly bleed out and they think nobody will blame them.
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- I Bleed Maroon (distracted easily by signatures)
M4 Benelli
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People, I use the term loosely as I'm describing lefties, think the economy is stronk. The Fed's plan will go along seamlessly.
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If fed signals pause then blow off top might be possible.

Once paused however their will be a dash to the exits as people lock in T-Bills at peak rates. Why have funds in a volatile market when you can get 5.5% at much lower risk.

May not seem like a lot but with millions/billions it is real dollars with a good return at low risk.
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SF2004 said:

If fed signals pause then blow off top might be possible.

Once paused however their will be a dash to the exits as people lock in T-Bills at peak rates. Why have funds in a volatile market when you can get 5.5% at much lower risk.

May not seem like a lot but with millions/billions it is real dollars with a good return at low risk.
I've been putting more in to my 4.2% yield savings account over last couple of months, I'll take that return on a relatively large chunk of capital for me at this point instead of leaving it sidelined
topher06
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Exxon, of course, found a way to go down as a result of the news. Maybe this is just cycling out of energy.
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I played both sides of it, with small profit exits, thinking that candle would be nuts. It worked.

Looks to be headed up from here. FJ had identified 413.23 as a key threshold back on 4/19, and I wonder if that still applies.
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topher06 said:

Exxon, of course, found a way to go down as a result of the news. Maybe this is just cycling out of energy.

None of what is happening with energy stocks makes sense. Feels like accumulation phase to me.

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XOM
took a small long here
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