McInnis 03 said:
Bonfire1996 said:
I think the bottom is in for tech. I'm selling some of my value stocks (ABBV) and hitting GOOGL.
Curious your thoughts on this corrupt nickel debacle, you too Farmer........ looks like JPM and the Chinese Billionaire got a bail out of only the most mafioso sized proportions?
My takeaways
-Bail out, yes.
-I mentioned in a previous post, are we in a WWIII - an economic war? I am watching close as I can.
-Tsingshan should have seen this hedge problem coming early on, in my opinion. Their value-at-risk VAR equations would (should have been flagging) and I think it did. This situation wasn't driven on 2 days of rally.
-I think the VAR's flagged but founder Xiang Guandga is bearish nickel to the point he will not stop selling and is emphatic about it. This says either, the fellow is crazy, or the fellow is crazy like a fox driving more economic damaged worldwide, or he knows/understands he's in a no lose situation and here's why.
-Tsingshan is willing to pledge assets in Indonesia and China against his position. I laugh at that. JPM and other financial institutions, as well as LME, jumped on that offer didn't they....no they didn't. LOL!
-The crime is this, LME should have seen this position failure coming days earlier too and stepped up security pledges against the trading accounts of Tsingshan, or their associated brokers, and looks like they didn't.
-The banks want "money". They don't want assets, especially assets in China or Indonesia. (What a laugher) Example: JPM goes to China and states I'm here to claim/confiscate my Tsingshan assets. China responds, "No". .... Banks want a negotiated settlement in money and allow this character to continue to play the game and pay the penalty (reduced rate of course), otherwise Tsingshan walks and the banks are bag-holders. Are there downstream future financing issues for Tsingshan, probably but they'll get financed by someone and they'll sell product (...it's a product in high demand and buyers will look the other way when it comes to the risk factor of dealing with Tsingshan)...it's the way of the world.
-Most alarming is the cancelation of trades by LME,...."Halting trading and giving members time to be able to find the funds that they need again is perfectly legitimate," said Jordan Brooks, co-head of the macro strategies group at AQR Capital Management. "What I think is striking for us and other participants in the market, and the financial industry as a whole, is the decision to wipe out trades that happened without coercion and happened in good faith." That statement right there tells you the LME and banks are making sure the negotiated settlement will allow Tsingshan to operate and will be protected to a point of being untouchable. Integrity is lost for the sake of getting repaid. It wreaks of having to play nice with a bully. Long & Short - As a business, if it has to do the China, you're better off not getting involved with them, but that will never happen or stop.
Keep an eye on Peabody and let's see how they get treated. It's a near similar problem in coal, but we're dealing with an American company and the numbers aren't quite as large. The outcome is of interest to me versus the Tsingshan situation.
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Pledged assets in Indonesia and China...ROTFLMAO!