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Tic's take.
I just noticed that there was a shelf filing on $Elox as well. Should we be concerned about the dilution on this one, just like $wwr? Two MA stocks with dilution
Yep, 3 in 2 days. (PROG, WWR, ELOX). We're on a roll.
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I am getting really concerned with the number of brand new accounts posting on this thread. They've seemed to be posting very bearish sentiment on stocks some on this board are long in. Almost seems like an orchestrated attempt to sour people on certain stocks. It's a shame because this thread and board had been very helpful. I'd hate to see it become stocktwits.
I've been a long time lurker. I has just noticed that the filing had occurred and that no one mentioned it. I thought it was a topic to at least be discussed. My intention wasn't to bash but to bring about conversation. I'm long the stock as well. The filing was a little unusual to me due to the size and timing.
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Ok thanks. There have been at least three brand new first time posters this week. Seemed odd. Maybe I'm just paranoid.
I had the same thoughts. Hopefully it's the sign of a market bottom (fear) similar to the market top back in mid February when this thread had about 30-40 pages of comments hitting it a day.
Bearish sentiments on a TA thread gonna tank the stocks!
J/k
J/k
PSA friendly reminder....
Have see a bunch of OA related comments, bat signals for OA and mild panic recently.
Just want to remind everyone that OA posted a while back the he was/is focused on selling one or more of his companies. If you haven't ever been through a liquidity event, an M&A effort, DD process, etc. then you wouldn't understand the time consuming nature it is. After building his company(s) for many years this is a major event for him. And Lord knows time consuming and can be mentally draining.
Its like if you haven't ever owned a Jeep. Its a Jeep thing. Or not have kids you have had to nurture from diapers into their adult years. You just wouldn't understand.
OA is active on Twitter. Not speaking for OA in any way at all but I suspect his faith, family and finance are his priorities. Heck he shared pics of fishing with his dad this past week. Between pics with a large mouth bass and dad in the background, comments to the larger public on the MAs, option plays, etc. clearly he is engaged.
He has taught us to fish many times over since 9:09am on 2/4/16. When he founded this thread. We are in a sense a part of his 'family'.
Now go fish. Implement the unreal amount of knowledge, wisdom and dedication he has provided to this forum. He'll chime in when he gets a moment. Until then make your decisions and own the process.
Hope everyone knows I care about this group on here.
FJ
Have see a bunch of OA related comments, bat signals for OA and mild panic recently.
Just want to remind everyone that OA posted a while back the he was/is focused on selling one or more of his companies. If you haven't ever been through a liquidity event, an M&A effort, DD process, etc. then you wouldn't understand the time consuming nature it is. After building his company(s) for many years this is a major event for him. And Lord knows time consuming and can be mentally draining.
Its like if you haven't ever owned a Jeep. Its a Jeep thing. Or not have kids you have had to nurture from diapers into their adult years. You just wouldn't understand.
OA is active on Twitter. Not speaking for OA in any way at all but I suspect his faith, family and finance are his priorities. Heck he shared pics of fishing with his dad this past week. Between pics with a large mouth bass and dad in the background, comments to the larger public on the MAs, option plays, etc. clearly he is engaged.
He has taught us to fish many times over since 9:09am on 2/4/16. When he founded this thread. We are in a sense a part of his 'family'.
Now go fish. Implement the unreal amount of knowledge, wisdom and dedication he has provided to this forum. He'll chime in when he gets a moment. Until then make your decisions and own the process.
Hope everyone knows I care about this group on here.
FJ
AMD
Think this makes a move here one way or the other. My guess is up over 106.18.
If macros hold up I think sees 108-112 near term.
Reclaimed the ATR mean and 21EMA Friday. Barely lost the 21, reclaimed it and with the overall market dip didn't even sniff the 34EMA.
Charts later. NVDA is my #1
You don’t trade for money, you trade for freedom.
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Jet Black said:
Bearish sentiments on a TA thread gonna tank the stocks!
J/k
Not suggesting TA is a market mover, but I've seen other social media platforms devolve into bull/bear pumping. I'd just hate to see that happen here. And I know you were kidding, I was just clarifying my post.
We have to assume up based on recent patterns until there is a legitimate reason to have a bearish bias. I think this rally has gone on way too long and is due to puke, but it could just sit up here a long time before it does. There will be plenty of opportunities to catch downside.
Selling OTM covered calls up here is a safe way to get some premium. You benefit from melt up and you lower your basis on melt down.
Selling OTM covered calls up here is a safe way to get some premium. You benefit from melt up and you lower your basis on melt down.
You don’t trade for money, you trade for freedom.
JbKing45 said:
I've been a long time lurker. I has just noticed that the filing had occurred and that no one mentioned it. I thought it was a topic to at least be discussed. My intention wasn't to bash but to bring about conversation. I'm long the stock as well. The filing was a little unusual to me due to the size and timing.
But you aren't denying that you are a hedge fund manager.
Tomas Hermensa said:Jet Black said:
Bearish sentiments on a TA thread gonna tank the stocks!
J/k
Not suggesting TA is a market mover, but I've seen other social media platforms devolve into bull/bear pumping. I'd just hate to see that happen here. And I know you were kidding, I was just clarifying my post.
True enough. See Stocktwits.
90% of stock twits users are know everything dicks.
You don’t trade for money, you trade for freedom.
With you here.$30,000 Millionaire said:
Charts later. NVDA is my #1
Weekly options ready and set along with SRs.
well said sir
grateful for all your help here
and of course, the group here have assisted me so many times I've lost count
grateful for all your help here
and of course, the group here have assisted me so many times I've lost count
Don't disagree with your sentiments. And certainly OA owes nothing to anyone. But I think it is fair to acknowledge that his commentary over time regarding WWR and ELOX was considerably different than other stocks. How many others did we see him use "pound the table" (WWR) language for? None that I'm aware of. How many others did he describe with language like 80-90% certainty of a large move coming like he did after the large insider trade (ELOX) while it was spiking a few months ago? Also none that I am aware of. Given the respect he has earned amongst those on this thread, it isn't hard to comprehend how some newbie investors reacted strongly to those 2 recommendations and are overweighted and overexposed on them. And now that we are seeing events that were unforeseen and perhaps not well understood by those newbie investors, I can understand their concern. And they are wanting to hear any updated thoughts from OA to see if his outlook on those 2 has changed. I think it is fair to acknowledge all of that.
But none of us have any right to expect any such guidance. Each of us is responsible for every investment decision we make. Always. If nothing else, I hope everyone that needed to learn it, learns not to get too far over their skis on any investment no matter who is recommending it.
I'm not in any panic about my investment in either of these two companies. I do understand the mathematics of dilution though. So the ceiling on potential returns has adjusted lower in my estimation. And at no time was I ever expecting an immediate move on either of these two stocks. To be fair to OA, I think he was always reasonably clear about that. So I'm going to continue to be patient on both of them, expecting I'll be rewarded eventually. I've seen nothing to change my long term outlook for either one.
But none of us have any right to expect any such guidance. Each of us is responsible for every investment decision we make. Always. If nothing else, I hope everyone that needed to learn it, learns not to get too far over their skis on any investment no matter who is recommending it.
I'm not in any panic about my investment in either of these two companies. I do understand the mathematics of dilution though. So the ceiling on potential returns has adjusted lower in my estimation. And at no time was I ever expecting an immediate move on either of these two stocks. To be fair to OA, I think he was always reasonably clear about that. So I'm going to continue to be patient on both of them, expecting I'll be rewarded eventually. I've seen nothing to change my long term outlook for either one.
Invest at your own risk. Always.
One thing I'm absolutely certain of is that if OA is going to get out of any of these, he would come here and post it.
You don’t trade for money, you trade for freedom.
There was lots of consternation around NIO a couple years back when he was saying to accumulate around $3-4. His accumulation plays don't necessarily pay off immediately but they normally get a big return for the patient ones
And as someone that sold most of my nio after holding for a year, I will keep my wwr. Did it a week before the spike. Bleh
Yes, and remember MGNI before they changed their symbol ( I can't remember what it was), but a lot of people were worried when it hovered around $5 or under.gougler08 said:
There was lots of consternation around NIO a couple years back when he was saying to accumulate around $3-4. His accumulation plays don't necessarily pay off immediately but they normally get a big return for the patient ones
Disclaimer, I own very little of WWR, not because I'm concerned about the company, I just prefer faster moving stocks. WWR has a good story and with the push for all these EVs, I believe they're positioning themselves to capitalize on that. The offering and dilution is bad bull imo and will hamstring it for a spike higher without a major catalyst. Shorts also love to jump on stocks that do this, so expect some more downside pressure, especially if the macro markets correct. I'm not suggesting anyone sell, but don't watch or expect it daily to make a major move because it will only increase your stress and feed your fears. JMO
When $SPX finally corrects, its most likely to cost both 2 day dip buyers & major top callers: Selloff with a few big trap bounces, into a big low as bear market calls start. Feb 2021 good example. Easy way not to get caught: Trade 1 move at a time, lvl to lvl & let price unfold
— Adam Mancini (@AdamMancini4) August 22, 2021
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It was the Rubicon project. I was in that a little but not nearly as much as I wish I'd been.
We thinking WWR a50% drop in the am?
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I don't think anything nearly that big, but it could see a big drop.
RUBI, that was it, thanks.Tomas Hermensa said:
It was the Rubicon project. I was in that a little but not nearly as much as I wish I'd been.
Totally understand. I've been there...over-weighted on positions. This one reason why I try and at least warn about position sizing. I learned the hard way from my own mistakes. Not because anyone told me to buy 30,40, 50%+ of my portfolio in one or two positions.RenoAg said:
Don't disagree with your sentiments. And certainly OA owes nothing to anyone. But I think it is fair to acknowledge that his commentary over time regarding WWR and ELOX was considerably different than other stocks. How many others did we see him use "pound the table" (WWR) language for? None that I'm aware of. How many others did he describe with language like 80-90% certainty of a large move coming like he did after the large insider trade (ELOX) while it was spiking a few months ago? Also none that I am aware of. Given the respect he has earned amongst those on this thread, it isn't hard to comprehend how some newbie investors reacted strongly to those 2 recommendations and are overweighted and overexposed on them. And now that we are seeing events that were unforeseen and perhaps not well understood by those newbie investors, I can understand their concern. And they are wanting to hear any updated thoughts from OA to see if his outlook on those 2 has changed. I think it is fair to acknowledge all of that.
But none of us have any right to expect any such guidance. Each of us is responsible for every investment decision we make. Always. If nothing else, I hope everyone that needed to learn it, learns not to get too far over their skis on any investment no matter who is recommending it.
I'm not in any panic about my investment in either of these two companies. I do understand the mathematics of dilution though. So the ceiling on potential returns has adjusted lower in my estimation. And at no time was I ever expecting an immediate move on either of these two stocks. To be fair to OA, I think he was always reasonably clear about that. So I'm going to continue to be patient on both of them, expecting I'll be rewarded eventually. I've seen nothing to change my long term outlook for either one.
I am long on both. Just smaller than I was originally.
No one can call that, but expect pressure on it by short sellers until their next earnings release or positive news release. If it doesn't happen, great, but if it does, then it won't grind on you.CrazyRichAggie said:
We thinking WWR a50% drop in the am?
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I'm guessing no one has gotten a response from west water? I asked for further guidance for their investors. The prospectus that is similar PR material they've been giving doesn't help us. After that 8k I'd like to know how they are planning to balance the need for capital with protection their shareholders investment. I didn't expect a response over the weekend but was wondering if anyone had received anything?
TTD
Kind of an interesting spot where this is at.
It held an older downtrend line as a back test and reclaimed the 50EMA.
Hope to see a bounce here and I would think we see some resistance about $81.50-82.85...ish
I'll be watching about $79.50ish as well.
Nice charting. Question for you.
When you post something like this, how do you typically play it? Spreads? Buy calls or other options? Buy shares?
I'm curious how you approach a chart like this. I'm a very inexperienced investor and trader, and I'm only approved for level 2 options trading, so what would be the play here?
Thanks in advance and hoping all on here are doing well.
We're getting lonely here in the big 12. Miss the revelry of when we used to play you guys every year. Always had red eyes for the Aggies until I married into the Heaton (Heaton Hall) family. It's eased things considerably :-).
When you post something like this, how do you typically play it? Spreads? Buy calls or other options? Buy shares?
I'm curious how you approach a chart like this. I'm a very inexperienced investor and trader, and I'm only approved for level 2 options trading, so what would be the play here?
Thanks in advance and hoping all on here are doing well.
We're getting lonely here in the big 12. Miss the revelry of when we used to play you guys every year. Always had red eyes for the Aggies until I married into the Heaton (Heaton Hall) family. It's eased things considerably :-).
I am long shares on this but.....BaylorSpineGuy said:
Nice charting. Question for you.
When you post something like this, how do you typically play it? Spreads? Buy calls or other options? Buy shares?
I'm curious how you approach a chart like this. I'm a very inexperienced investor and trader, and I'm only approved for level 2 options trading, so what would be the play here?
Thanks in advance and hoping all on here are doing well.
We're getting lonely here in the big 12. Miss the revelry of when we used to play you guys every year. Always had red eyes for the Aggies until I married into the Heaton (Heaton Hall) family. It's eased things considerably :-).
So, I am not the spread master here but there are some who are excellent at it. If me I go out a few weeks to say 9/3 or 9/10 with the lower strike being $80 (buy) and higher $85 (sell) for a vertical spread.
Over 77.55 confirmation and I think you could have a solid trade where you end up ITM on the bought and the sold never reached for full premium decay to keep the premium.
This just needs to confirm the reversal though and preferably closes over the 5EMA next IMO. If it loses about $75.14 (Thu low) I am probably cutting it.
30k, McInnis, Brew...etc. and many others may have some stronger options play suggestions like a butterfly, put plays, etc.
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