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McInnis 03 said:

Bosco said:

Welp, I lost 75% of the amount I had allocated for options trading.

I'm going to stick with this and do some paper trading for a while until I get my head around the technical side.


Love the determination, hate the P/L story.
do buy writes or put credit spreads. much easier to win that way.
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Ranger222 said:

none or very little. It's weird as I feel like this story has snuck up on a lot of people, more so than our A&M/SEC bubble. I think many had the same reaction of "yeah, ok whatever" and not realize how far along the process actually was to the point that its a done deal. I think once tu/OU officially cut ties to Big 12 and the SEC vote is not long after, then it will be more of a realization
Thanks man
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Had some big wins this week. Met my 50% profit mark mid week and put most of the proceeds toward toward plays that set up for the next two weeks. So my week ended up a net loss, but I expect it to shake out at near 100% profit once all the plays are done in the coming weeks.

Calling my shots for next week..

SPX will top out around 4,440. Vix will be in the low 16's. I plan to enter SPY puts and VIX calls once this happens.

I still see IWM dropping more. Today was a little uncanny but the structure is still holding. If it goes above yesterday's pre market high then I think we might have to re-evaluate the pattern. Otherwise, I still see lower lows.
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Thanks, McInnis.

Just started with options at the beginning of this year. I have always wondered why we look at the overall S&P so much, but I guess it gives you a big picture direction of the market? Individual stocks do their own thing though....the SPY went up but my TSLA and RIG went down pretty big.
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

McInnis 03 said:

Bosco said:

Welp, I lost 75% of the amount I had allocated for options trading.

I'm going to stick with this and do some paper trading for a while until I get my head around the technical side.


Love the determination, hate the P/L story.
do buy writes or put credit spreads. much easier to win that way.
YES. I write furious notes down after every win/loss and that was next on my "to learn" list!
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Preliminary plan for next week:

  • Short bonds (inverse to yields rising)
  • Short Russell
  • Long energy stocks (e.g. CVX, NGL, PAA)
  • Long crypto if it breaks wedge
  • Long gold if it breaks downtrend
  • Tech earnings plays
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So let me ask this....I have seen a stock just completely battered after a very positive earnings report, I assume this is a "rug pull" to punish those that were gambling on earnings. Then it stays down for a few days before it rockets up.

Would it be a good idea to watch for these "earnings rug pulls" and then buy weekly calls on the dip assuming a positive report?
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Great week this week for me but it does little to offset this news.

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We manage risk as best we can. Made a lot of money this week. But had I held my roku 400c bought Monday I would have closed the week +$63,000.
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Some solid plays on this board this week and a lot of selfless help by many I consider mentors on here. I had more time to sit back and read in the hospital. Trading for freedom is the truth and I'm so thankful everyone here tries to push us all to be better.

High on life with our 3rd kiddo enjoy your down time and let's get after it for next week!

Side note- Very light trading for me being at the hospital but still squeezed 1.5% realized gains to the portfolio. I'll take it!
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OutlawAG04 said:

Some solid plays on this board this week and a lot of selfless help by many I consider mentors on here. I had more time to sit back and read in the hospital. Trading for freedom is the truth and I'm so thankful everyone here tries to push us all to be better.

High on life with our 3rd kiddo enjoy your down time and let's get after it for next week!

Side note- Very light trading for me being at the hospital but still squeezed 1.5% realized gains to the portfolio. I'll take it!
Family, especially new arrivals, is the reason to follow the market daily. You may not realize it at the time, but you do subconsciously learn something everyday. You'll be able to share that with your children in a way, and age, that will have a dramatic impact on their lives. You'll be able to guide them to avoid mistakes you've made and introduce something to them at a younger age than 90% of kids in their age group. My son will know how to trade by the time he's 12. Keep learning the trade, everyday makes you better.
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Bosco said:

So let me ask this....I have seen a stock just completely battered after a very positive earnings report, I assume this is a "rug pull" to punish those that were gambling on earnings. Then it stays down for a few days before it rockets up.

Would it be a good idea to watch for these "earnings rug pulls" and then buy weekly calls on the dip assuming a positive report?


Not necessarily. If it will be helpful for your learning curve, I'm willing to spend a few minutes on the phone with you to maybe try to answer some basic Q&A of how things work.
You don’t trade for money, you trade for freedom.
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Bosco said:

So let me ask this....I have seen a stock just completely battered after a very positive earnings report, I assume this is a "rug pull" to punish those that were gambling on earnings. Then it stays down for a few days before it rockets up.

Would it be a good idea to watch for these "earnings rug pulls" and then buy weekly calls on the dip assuming a positive report?
This was true until this week. Almost every company gapped up after earnings this week. IMO earnings are a lotto play. Never put in more than you're willing to lose on earnings reports. And it doesn't always bounce back after a sell off (ie $MU).

Just take it slow, build up some profit before taking high risk plays like earnings. Don't hesitate to ask questions on this board before making a trade. Lots of experienced good guys on here who are willing to help.
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Agreed!
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Prognightmare said:

OutlawAG04 said:

Some solid plays on this board this week and a lot of selfless help by many I consider mentors on here. I had more time to sit back and read in the hospital. Trading for freedom is the truth and I'm so thankful everyone here tries to push us all to be better.

High on life with our 3rd kiddo enjoy your down time and let's get after it for next week!

Side note- Very light trading for me being at the hospital but still squeezed 1.5% realized gains to the portfolio. I'll take it!
Family, especially new arrivals, is the reason to follow the market daily. You may not realize it at the time, but you do subconsciously learn something everyday. You'll be able to share that with your children in a way, and age, that will have a dramatic impact on their lives. You'll be able to guide them to avoid mistakes you've made and introduce something to them at a younger age than 90% of kids in their age group. My son will know how to trade by the time he's 12. Keep learning the trade, everyday makes you better.
Just don't freak out when you teach your kid something - even over and over and over and over again - and they still make the mistake.

Kids are... quite the experience.
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would love to!

Just saw you are in Addison....Im in sales and work close to Keller Springs and the Tollway, how about lunch sometime?

I don't have ability to PM, my email is
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I emailed you, you can take it down
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For you WWR'ers - found this out today but I guess WWR has a podcast available on the Apple podcast app called "Coosa Conversations with Chris." There's two seasons with about 5-6 episodes on each season. Different topics related to the business, very interesting.
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Thanks, haven't seen that before. But if it's gonna make me buy more, I probably shouldn't listen...
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Prognightmare said:

OutlawAG04 said:

Some solid plays on this board this week and a lot of selfless help by many I consider mentors on here. I had more time to sit back and read in the hospital. Trading for freedom is the truth and I'm so thankful everyone here tries to push us all to be better.

High on life with our 3rd kiddo enjoy your down time and let's get after it for next week!

Side note- Very light trading for me being at the hospital but still squeezed 1.5% realized gains to the portfolio. I'll take it!
Family, especially new arrivals, is the reason to follow the market daily. You may not realize it at the time, but you do subconsciously learn something everyday. You'll be able to share that with your children in a way, and age, that will have a dramatic impact on their lives. You'll be able to guide them to avoid mistakes you've made and introduce something to them at a younger age than 90% of kids in their age group. My son will know how to trade by the time he's 12. Keep learning the trade, everyday makes you better.

Way to go Prog. Teach'em early!
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Speaking of WWR- have no idea who these guys are I simply float around looking for news. Both of these guys constantly talk about the downside, dilution, lack of leadership, etc related to WWR.

Check out CapitalPainz on StockTwits: http://www.stocktwits.com/CapitalPainz

https://stocktwits.com/Harmonica/message/359111242

OA mentioned further downside could be on the horizon and to keep some powder available.

I'm long WWR and it is one of my larger MA holdings. The share dilution is always concerning but others might be able to chime in.
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Is WWR scheduled to or voting on a reverse split?
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hard to say. I trust OA more than a rando on Stock Twits
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I also question the motives of others, as well. Mining is certainly a capital intensive business.
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OutlawAG04 said:

Speaking of WWR- have no idea who these guys are I simply float around looking for news. Both of these guys constantly talk about the downside, dilution, lack of leadership, etc related to WWR.

Check out CapitalPainz on StockTwits: http://www.stocktwits.com/CapitalPainz

https://stocktwits.com/Harmonica/message/359111242

OA mentioned further downside could be on the horizon and to keep some powder available.

I'm long WWR and it is one of my larger MA holdings. The share dilution is always concerning but others might be able to chime in.


Tip - never listen to what anybody says on Stocktwits. If you want to use it to find company news quickly, then fine. Consider it the General Board of online stock opinions. SEC filings, official press releases, and OA opinions are what we should focus on.
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Agree and definitely think OA has more insight on this company than some internet warrior. I know a lot of us are long so I was curious if anyone had actually seen any news feeds anywhere. I have not been able to find anything relevant.
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Decay said:

Prognightmare said:

OutlawAG04 said:

Some solid plays on this board this week and a lot of selfless help by many I consider mentors on here. I had more time to sit back and read in the hospital. Trading for freedom is the truth and I'm so thankful everyone here tries to push us all to be better.

High on life with our 3rd kiddo enjoy your down time and let's get after it for next week!

Side note- Very light trading for me being at the hospital but still squeezed 1.5% realized gains to the portfolio. I'll take it!
Family, especially new arrivals, is the reason to follow the market daily. You may not realize it at the time, but you do subconsciously learn something everyday. You'll be able to share that with your children in a way, and age, that will have a dramatic impact on their lives. You'll be able to guide them to avoid mistakes you've made and introduce something to them at a younger age than 90% of kids in their age group. My son will know how to trade by the time he's 12. Keep learning the trade, everyday makes you better.
Just don't freak out when you teach your kid something - even over and over and over and over again - and they still make the mistake.

Kids are... quite the experience.


You are absolutely correct. However, I'm an old daddy because he's about to be 6. My plan is to introduce him to stocks and TA when he's 12. When he's 16, I will deposit 10K into an account for him to trade. The profits, less taxes will be his to spend how he likes. However, if he makes a bad trade that drops below 10K, he will not be able to withdraw the funds until it's over the original account funding. I think this will be a valuable way to teach him about taking risk.
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Agreed and not really listening. Opening up more to the board to see if anyone had seen any negative press come out. These guys seem like they have a hard on about anything negative
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I'm looking at GOOGL and MSFT being over +3 ATR and I'm like...hmmm.

Call credit spreads probably the way to play.
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

I'm looking at GOOGL and MSFT being over +3 ATR and I'm like...hmmm.

Call credit spreads probably the way to play.


30k- still playing credit spreads pretty small on my end until I get more comfortable, but what type of risk/reward are you typically looking for. 8/20 or later $10 strike wide on MSFT? Are you trying to stay close to ATM or have a minimum of 5-10% OTM?

Your ATR set up has been a huge help in hunting for spreads. Thank you!
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OutlawAG04 said:

$30,000 Millionaire said:

I'm looking at GOOGL and MSFT being over +3 ATR and I'm like...hmmm.

Call credit spreads probably the way to play.


30k- still playing credit spreads pretty small on my end until I get more comfortable, but what type of risk/reward are you typically looking for. 8/20 or later $10 strike wide on MSFT? Are you trying to stay close to ATM or have a minimum of 5-10% OTM?

Your ATR set up has been a huge help in hunting for spreads. Thank you!


You want around a 1:1 risk to reward ratio to make it worthwhile unless you get super premium OTM.

The problem going OTM is that you may get $1 in premium on a $10 wide spread, but if that blows up - yikes
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

I'm looking at GOOGL and MSFT being over +3 ATR and I'm like...hmmm.

Call credit spreads probably the way to play.


Just curious, why would you go with Call Credit spreads instead of put debit spreads? In case the stock doesn't go down to your spread?
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Flat or down. Put debit spread requires down
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

Flat or down. Put debit spread requires down


Do you have to make sure to buy back any spread you do to make sure you dont get assigned to anything you dont want/ dont have the capital for? I've only played a few spreads, and have never let them make it to expiration day, and would rather not learn the hard way.
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Just remember everyone, even if we see a dip, be careful being bearish in a bull market, and this will still be a bull market for quite a while. Remember to place your stops. If you lose, pick yourself up and get the next one.
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