anyone else feel it's weird that we can't frac underground but we can fully revive strip mining?

Sunday morning thoughts about the ev space.

panduh bear said:

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anyone else feel it's weird that we can't frac underground but we can fully revive strip mining?

Sunday morning thoughts about the ev space.

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A significant amount of people are easily swayed by what they see and don't think about what it takes to get actually get a product to them.

Food comes from a store.
Power comes from an outlet or a battery.
Water comes from the tap.
Goods are just delivered to your home.

Rare earth metal mining is terrifyingly bad for the environment and all of the means by which they are extracted, purified and delivered are driven by fossil fuels. People don't care to think what it took for their battery to be made, or the materials for their car are procured and made or even for the source of electricity that recharges their battery.

We (born in the 70s, 80s and 90s and currently today's main consumers), got preached at constantly growing up that "saving the environment" was important which I agree that it is. A lot of us got brainwashed however into thinking that the only way to do that was renewable energy sources and that we in the US had a duty to save the environment. Nobody dared say a negative word about what renewables on a massive scale would cost us environmentally so the idea grew unencumbered to where it is now. You're basically shouted down as a heretic if you thing up the negative aspects of EV.

This EV revolution is years of propaganda and dogma finally hitting a critical mass with consumers and technology to make it uber profitable.

AgStuckinLBK said:

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panduh bear said:

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anyone else feel it's weird that we can't frac underground but we can fully revive strip mining?

Sunday morning thoughts about the ev space.

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A significant amount of people are easily swayed by what they see and don't think about what it takes to get actually get a product to them.

Food comes from a store.
Power comes from an outlet or a battery.
Water comes from the tap.
Goods are just delivered to your home.

Rare earth metal mining is terrifyingly bad for the environment and all of the means by which they are extracted, purified and delivered are driven by fossil fuels. People don't care to think what it took for their battery to be made, or the materials for their car are procured and made or even for the source of electricity that recharges their battery.

We (born in the 70s, 80s and 90s and currently today's main consumers), got preached at constantly growing up that "saving the environment" was important which I agree that it is. A lot of us got brainwashed however into thinking that the only way to do that was renewable energy sources and that we in the US had a duty to save the environment. Nobody dared say a negative word about what renewables on a massive scale would cost us environmentally so the idea grew unencumbered to where it is now. You're basically shouted down as a heretic if you thing up the negative aspects of EV.

This EV revolution is years of propaganda and dogma finally hitting a critical mass with consumers and technology to make it uber profitable.

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One of the huge propaganda points is nuclear.

Modern nuclear energy plants can be built infinitely more safely than Chernobyl and the like. They can produce insanely low amounts of waste, and are very resilient.

Do we hear about nuclear as green though? Nope.

cageybee77 said:

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Half our population can't pronounce it.

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Maybe if we just called it New, Clear Energy, it would be more popular.

It blows my mind we don't have more nuclear energy. You just have to put it in geographically stable areas to avoid things like ***ushima.

Petroleum is a finite resource. I think reducing consumption of it is smart to have sustainable energy. I am not an expert in any of this stuff. I just don't understand why we would burn coal when there are viable nuclear options available.

Edit F-U-K-U-shima. This profanity filter is stupid.

khaos288 said:

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AgStuckinLBK said:

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panduh bear said:

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anyone else feel it's weird that we can't frac underground but we can fully revive strip mining?

Sunday morning thoughts about the ev space.

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A significant amount of people are easily swayed by what they see and don't think about what it takes to get actually get a product to them.

Food comes from a store.
Power comes from an outlet or a battery.
Water comes from the tap.
Goods are just delivered to your home.

Rare earth metal mining is terrifyingly bad for the environment and all of the means by which they are extracted, purified and delivered are driven by fossil fuels. People don't care to think what it took for their battery to be made, or the materials for their car are procured and made or even for the source of electricity that recharges their battery.

We (born in the 70s, 80s and 90s and currently today's main consumers), got preached at constantly growing up that "saving the environment" was important which I agree that it is. A lot of us got brainwashed however into thinking that the only way to do that was renewable energy sources and that we in the US had a duty to save the environment. Nobody dared say a negative word about what renewables on a massive scale would cost us environmentally so the idea grew unencumbered to where it is now. You're basically shouted down as a heretic if you thing up the negative aspects of EV.

This EV revolution is years of propaganda and dogma finally hitting a critical mass with consumers and technology to make it uber profitable.

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One of the huge propaganda points is nuclear.

Modern nuclear energy plants can be built infinitely more safely than Chernobyl and the like. They can produce insanely low amounts of waste, and are very resilient.

Do we hear about nuclear as green though? Nope.

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Dude, I agree so much about nuclear. It's literally the same psychology behind why people feel safer in a car than a plane.

Modern day nuclear power generation is the real green energy.

panduh bear said:

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anyone else feel it's weird that we can't frac underground but we can fully revive strip mining?

Sunday morning thoughts about the ev space.

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yeah it is all political b.s. Ask why a pipeline is bad, but trains owned by Warren Buffet are okay? $$$

My pro nuke propaganda on this thread is paying off

Spaceship said:

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You know nuclear is safe and a good idea when even Bill Gates supports it. I'm dumbfounded why we don't pursue it harder, and I guess society just hasn't become desperate enough yet.

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to paraphrase George Carlin, imagine how stupid and easily swayed the average person is. They will believe literally anything you tell them if it's packaged nicely and communicated by nice, likable people. On top of it, you also have coal miners / traditional energy producers with a powerful lobby that don't want to make changes and they dangle out job losses. If you followed that logic, we'd have millions of people committed to making candles in the present day. People are remarkably resilient and if you're tough enough to mine coal, there are lots of things you can do.

I'm as conservative as any of you, but we're lying to ourselves if we don't think we're hurting the environment.

$30,000 Millionaire said:

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Yes, will do this evening. I can tell you it looks like crap and the shorts are winning on it right now.

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Make them stop winning. Thanks.

$30,000 Millionaire said:

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I ran a scan for stocks that are close to ATH. In the scan, $RTX Raytheon came up and it looks pretty good here. I read that the commies are on-track to have more ships than we are, that could be a Northrop-Grumman type of play as well. Somebody will realize it isn't smart for the Chinese to have naval superiority to us (ps - what the hell has happened to us as a country?). $NOC looks like crap, though, and the premium is pathetic.

For $RTX, you want to buy this on a dip to either $74 or $72. a 72/82 03/26 call only requires RTX to trade where it is today to break even if you bought it now. You may be able to get every more attractive pricing.

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China is nowhere close to naval superiority don't let the pro-China crowd fool you. Having a lot of boats does not equate to naval strength never mind superiority. Naval strength is defined by aircraft carriers. There is no other serious definition. Borrowing from Peter Zeihan but going from memory there are 20 jump carriers in the world. The US has 11 of them. It takes 7 jump carriers to equal one super carrier. There are 11 super carriers in the world. The US has ALL of them. So getting to a common denominator there are 97 carrier units globally and the US has 88 of them. We are the only real Navy on the planet.

Incidentally this is why I don't take seriously anyone that thinks the dollar is in serious threat to be dethroned as the reserve currency. Global trade exists because we allow it to. It's settled in our currency and protected in transit by our Navy. Nobody else is anywhere close to being able to provide the latter so if we take our Navy and go home global trade fails immediately. And despite all the Made In China labels we see we're better suited that anyone to survive the end of global trade. We're one of a few capable of making what we need. We're also one of a few capable of consuming all we can make. The vast majority of the world needs global trade and only we can make it happen.

Post more.

LOYAL AG said:

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$30,000 Millionaire said:

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I ran a scan for stocks that are close to ATH. In the scan, $RTX Raytheon came up and it looks pretty good here. I read that the commies are on-track to have more ships than we are, that could be a Northrop-Grumman type of play as well. Somebody will realize it isn't smart for the Chinese to have naval superiority to us (ps - what the hell has happened to us as a country?). $NOC looks like crap, though, and the premium is pathetic.

For $RTX, you want to buy this on a dip to either $74 or $72. a 72/82 03/26 call only requires RTX to trade where it is today to break even if you bought it now. You may be able to get every more attractive pricing.

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China is nowhere close to naval superiority don't let the pro-China crowd fool you. Having a lot of boats does not equate to naval strength never mind superiority. Naval strength is defined by aircraft carriers. There is no other serious definition. Borrowing from Peter Zeihan but going from memory there are 20 jump carriers in the world. The US has 11 of them. It takes 7 jump carriers to equal one super carrier. There are 11 super carriers in the world. The US has ALL of them. So getting to a common denominator there are 97 carrier units globally and the US has 88 of them. We are the only real Navy on the planet.

Incidentally this is why I don't take seriously anyone that thinks the dollar is in serious threat to be dethroned as the reserve currency. Global trade exists because we allow it to. It's settled in our currency and protected in transit by our Navy. Nobody else is anywhere close to being able to provide the latter so if we take our Navy and go home global trade fails immediately. And despite all the Made In China labels we see we're better suited that anyone to survive the end of global trade. We're one of a few capable of making what we need. We're also one of a few capable of consuming all we can make. The vast majority of the world needs global trade and only we can make it happen.

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Zeihan is my leader as well. Couldn't have summed it up better myself.

$30,000 Millionaire said:

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Yes, will do this evening. I can tell you it looks like crap and the shorts are winning on it right now.

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I agree with you on how FUBO looks based off of technicals only, but I'm a buyer right now. They've guided earnings higher for the year and if Fubobet.com goes live in September for football season, that will be huge. Combine their guidance with some major firms taking positions in the stock, I want to own it. I'm not using margin to do it, and I'd recommend no one else buy it on margin if you're not familiar with dancing with that devil. I'm jumping the charts, which isn't a smart move, but by the time they signal all clear, I think FUBO will be 20%+ from it's current price. JMO

Mostly Foggy Recollection said:

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Futures opening up strong, almost too strong...

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