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In reply to OutlawAG04 • 10:11a, 1/6/21
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I'm rolling some but will hold the rest and see what happens around 62-62.5
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In reply to OutlawAG04 • 10:11a, 1/6/21
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Net free on GILD. Is everyone exiting and rolling all of them out to feb or March or letting some of the Jan calls ride? Sorry I'm on a client tour so doing everything from my phone
I did. Sold all Jan 60s and waiting to pick up the March 65s on any dips.
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10:11a, 1/6/21
Monster OTM Tesla leaps came through
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10:12a, 1/6/21
Come on $XL keep running. I want to keep those put premiums.
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10:19a, 1/6/21
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NET keeps probing to break the cup, which of course forms the handle. Would love to be greedy and get the reversal to green today on Feb 19 options.
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10:20a, 1/6/21
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NET volume spike
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In reply to Mr President Elect • 10:27a, 1/6/21
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Apparently SKLZ only goes up in rocket-ships and doesn't know how to slowly climb. Kind of an anxiety inducing stock for my covered calls.
I bought it at $20 in December and was able to sell $35 January calls. I guess I would be ok getting called out at 75% increase in 3 weeks???
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10:29a, 1/6/21
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Selling some covered calls on GE here with this run up
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10:34a, 1/6/21
CRM 2/19 240s... get em
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10:35a, 1/6/21
$4.10??? should that be $7.10?

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In reply to BrokeAssAggie • 10:37a, 1/6/21
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CrazyRichAggie said:
$4.10???

$7.10. He fat thumbed it.
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In reply to BrokeAssAggie • 10:37a, 1/6/21
I think OA1 means $7.10
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10:38a, 1/6/21
Picked up the $GILD March 65s - Entry at $1.95
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In reply to AgEng06 • 10:42a, 1/6/21
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AgEng06 said:
McInnis 03 said:
GILD pop, I see room to 61.20
And now?
So on the daily, the daily mean, 100 day EMA, 100 day SMA, and upper bolly band are all between 61.69 and 62.43. This could present a difficult time during the day, but if you're gifted a gap up on the overnight over these you may see a run to 64.20 or so?
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In reply to Andy07 • 10:43a, 1/6/21
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Andy07 said:
If CHNG is getting bought out by UNH for $25.75, and is currently at $23.95. Does that mean we're highly likely to move up to that $25.75 range?

My cost basis is at $10.86 so I'm debating going net free or waiting a while
When an acquisition is announced, the market adjusts to a risk-adjusted price that takes into account things that might go wrong before the deal is completed. Examples of things that can blow up an acquisition

  • Inability to obtain regulatory approval
  • Inability to obtain shareholder approval (usually on the target side)
  • Inability to obtain financing, if debt is utilized
  • Overall significant change in market conditions (up or down)
  • Competing offers may come in, giving target shareholders another alternative
  • Buyer cold feet (there may be a breakup fee for the target, if they bail)

That's just a sampling, but are some of the reasons there is almost always a difference between the offer price and the current price. It's usually lower by a few percent, but if a bidding war is expected, it can actually be higher. Arbitrageurs play this price difference, and you can make (or lose) quite a bit on playing these spreads.

I actually held stock in CHNG (thanks for the tip, OA) and sold this morning at $24.10, because it's close enough to the indicated offer price for me to take the gains and reinvest elsewhere, given the factors that could potentially blow up the deal. I also generally like to sell the news, and I don't really want to hold UNH shares longer term. I will say that it appears the market believes this deal will go through, as today's price rose near the offer price.
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10:46a, 1/6/21
$CIDM trying to push

Edit: I don't like whomever it is keeping it from breaking $0.77
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10:54a, 1/6/21
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FCEL running. Can't remember who was on that one but thank you.
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In reply to I bleed maroon • 11:02a, 1/6/21
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I bleed maroon said:
Andy07 said:
If CHNG is getting bought out by UNH for $25.75, and is currently at $23.95. Does that mean we're highly likely to move up to that $25.75 range?

My cost basis is at $10.86 so I'm debating going net free or waiting a while
When an acquisition is announced, the market adjusts to a risk-adjusted price that takes into account things that might go wrong before the deal is completed. Examples of things that can blow up an acquisition

  • Inability to obtain regulatory approval
  • Inability to obtain shareholder approval (usually on the target side)
  • Inability to obtain financing, if debt is utilized
  • Overall significant change in market conditions (up or down)
  • Competing offers may come in, giving target shareholders another alternative
  • Buyer cold feet (there may be a breakup fee for the target, if they bail)

That's just a sampling, but are some of the reasons there is almost always a difference between the offer price and the current price. It's usually lower by a few percent, but if a bidding war is expected, it can actually be higher. Arbitrageurs play this price difference, and you can make (or lose) quite a bit on playing these spreads.

I actually held stock in CHNG (thanks for the tip, OA) and sold this morning at $24.10, because it's close enough to the indicated offer price for me to take the gains and reinvest elsewhere, given the factors that could potentially blow up the deal. I also generally like to sell the news, and I don't really want to hold UNH shares longer term. I will say that it appears the market believes this deal will go through, as today's price rose near the offer price.


Thanks, I was aware there would likely be a bit of a gap but thought it might push up closer to the offer price than it is. I like your logic that there are probably better opportunities elsewhere as the potential is limited and will probably sell without chasing that last $1.75
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11:05a, 1/6/21
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I'm just jumping into this thread, but it seems like it's mostly focused on day or short term trading, no?

I realize the covered calls/puts piece may be looking out a little longer, but just trying to get a feel for the thread without reading 2700 pages.
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 11:06a, 1/6/21
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AG 2000' said:
I'm just jumping into this thread, but it seems like it's mostly focused on day or short term trading, no?

I realize the covered calls/puts piece may be looking out a little longer, but just trying to get a feel for the thread without reading 2700 pages.
I would take some time and read through this thread if you are new to it.
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 11:07a, 1/6/21
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AG 2000' said:
I'm just jumping into this thread, but it seems like it's mostly focused on day or short term trading, no?

I realize the covered calls/puts piece may be looking out a little longer, but just trying to get a feel for the thread without reading 2700 pages.


It's a mix, a lot lately has been long-term holds and steadily moving smaller portions to increase those holds for a future boom on those stocks.
Also depends on what you're aiming at doing risk/reward.
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 11:09a, 1/6/21
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AG 2000' said:
I'm just jumping into this thread, but it seems like it's mostly focused on day or short term trading, no?

I realize the covered calls/puts piece may be looking out a little longer, but just trying to get a feel for the thread without reading 2700 pages.
This is definitely for more active traders. There is also a thread for long term holds. It isn't as active so it falls down the page sometimes.
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 11:12a, 1/6/21
AG 2000' said:
I'm just jumping into this thread, but it seems like it's mostly focused on day or short term trading, no?

I realize the covered calls/puts piece may be looking out a little longer, but just trying to get a feel for the thread without reading 2700 pages.
IMO as follows:

Day Trading - Very little with the occasional occurrence by a few unless the opportunity presents itself of course.

Short Term - Pretty active and the majority will be Options.

Mid Term - Pretty active for both Stock & Options

Long Term - Continuously for Stocks including accumulations with strategic cost basis reduction ideas deployed and/or a net free approach
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11:21a, 1/6/21
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Don't forget Crypto drive-bys when appropriate.

BUY CELO NOW

edit: don't actually buy Celo it's kinda slumping
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 11:29a, 1/6/21
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McInnis 03 said:
$STM

Been watching this one for about a week. It finally went into the gap.....if it can hold this area on the opening, and stay above $38.....it has room to $40.21 eventually if not even more on a full gap fill.
Anyone do anything here? I'm seeing some sweeps on $45c for Feb
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11:29a, 1/6/21
I really which the person holding my March $6 cc on MARA would just go ahead and exercise it so I could stop staring at it everyday, not buying it back for anywhere close to what it's worth right now

And I know there is still plenty of time with a highly volatile stock but it's still annoying
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 11:31a, 1/6/21
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CrazyRichAggie said:
$4.10???

$7.10. He fat thumbed it.
I might just be holding a loser at the moment with my Jan 15 $8, but did yall move your Call dates out on COTY?
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 11:32a, 1/6/21
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McInnis 03 said:
$STM

Been watching this one for about a week. It finally went into the gap.....if it can hold this area on the opening, and stay above $38.....it has room to $40.21 eventually if not even more on a full gap fill.
Anyone do anything here? I'm seeing some sweeps on $45c for Feb
I've had it on my watch and charts but missed an entry yesterday and it was only set for the day. Would have filled at the open on the flash down. Yep....user error.
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
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11:34a, 1/6/21
$GILD with some volume making a new HOD.
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In reply to FJ43 • 11:35a, 1/6/21
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$GILD with some volume making a new HOD.


Those March calls already doing the thing
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In reply to Idk3 • 11:40a, 1/6/21
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McInnis 03 said:
CrazyRichAggie said:
$4.10???

$7.10. He fat thumbed it.
I might just be holding a loser at the moment with my Jan 15 $8, but did yall move your Call dates out on COTY?
I know myself and a couple of us rolled to the 1/22 $8 strikes
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In reply to Mostly Foggy Recollection • 11:40a, 1/6/21
Mostly Foggy Recollection said:
FJ43 said:
$GILD with some volume making a new HOD.


Those March calls already doing the thing
Yup. I show it will have resistance right here in the $61.70 range. If it can push through that then $65.10ish or bust.
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
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11:41a, 1/6/21
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In on MOS 2/19 $28C with OA1. Let's ride.
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In reply to FJ43 • 11:42a, 1/6/21
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FYI, If you grabbed the studies from my ToS post it's missing the 20 EMA and Linear Regression from Dan's setup. I've corrected the link since noticing.
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 11:42a, 1/6/21
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McInnis 03 said:
AgEng06 said:
McInnis 03 said:
GILD pop, I see room to 61.20
And now?
So on the daily, the daily mean, 100 day EMA, 100 day SMA, and upper bolly band are all between 61.69 and 62.43. This could present a difficult time during the day, but if you're gifted a gap up on the overnight over these you may see a run to 64.20 or so?
Coming into the supply area.
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