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3:55p, 11/30/20
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She's an interesting Twitter follow- rolled the dice with her today.. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://twitter.com/paulabinvest&ved=2ahUKEwjggJz3n6vtAhURna0KHcv1DjcQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0NAkvem78NBps9OM06wGKQ
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3:57p, 11/30/20
Hmmmm......

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kandis-stock-tumbles-after-short-seller-hindenburg-takes-aim-at-china-based-ev-maker-2020-11-30
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
Proverbs 13:11

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In reply to FJ43 • 4:04p, 11/30/20
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FJ43 said:
Hmmmm......

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kandis-stock-tumbles-after-short-seller-hindenburg-takes-aim-at-china-based-ev-maker-2020-11-30
While this story may have merit, it bothers me that the shorts have started to do "investigative journalism" that directly benefits them. A brazen reverse pump-and-dump. Buyer beware, I guess.
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4:19p, 11/30/20
Decent buying volume still AH on ONTX. 5,10,20 up to100k share buys. Kissing Over.30 .32
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
Proverbs 13:11

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In reply to badharambe • 4:19p, 11/30/20
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badharambe said:
$hexo looks like it's about to break back up towards the 1.4s


Posted at $1.02. Up to $1.28 AH. Seems like a gapper in play for the morning.
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4:22p, 11/30/20
tsla rocket after hours
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In reply to I bleed maroon • 4:23p, 11/30/20
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I bleed maroon said:
FJ43 said:
Hmmmm......

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kandis-stock-tumbles-after-short-seller-hindenburg-takes-aim-at-china-based-ev-maker-2020-11-30
While this story may have merit, it bothers me that the shorts have started to do "investigative journalism" that directly benefits them. A brazen reverse pump-and-dump. Buyer beware, I guess.

Was actually talking to someone about this a couple of weeks ago. This is going to get a lot more common as time goes by. Hindenburg is just one, others will come along and manipulate price action down even without merit.
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4:25p, 11/30/20
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Agree. Homework/dd is great. But the pr campaign with it is a reverse pump and dump.
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In reply to Orlando Ayala Cant Read • 4:33p, 11/30/20
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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:
I bleed maroon said:
FJ43 said:
Hmmmm......

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kandis-stock-tumbles-after-short-seller-hindenburg-takes-aim-at-china-based-ev-maker-2020-11-30
While this story may have merit, it bothers me that the shorts have started to do "investigative journalism" that directly benefits them. A brazen reverse pump-and-dump. Buyer beware, I guess.

Was actually talking to someone about this a couple of weeks ago. This is going to get a lot more common as time goes by. Hindenburg is just one, others will come along and manipulate price action down even without merit.
I think this is the answer - - once many more players figure this scheme out, it dilutes the impact on the market overall. Right now, they're still relatively unique, and getting more than their share of attention (and profit). The positive reinforcement loop (promote, release, market reaction as intended, cash out gains, promote the next victim...) has strengthened their hand immeasurably. The market will correct for this over time, I am convinced. They are kind of filling a void left due to the aging of contrarians / activist investors like Boone Pickens, Carl Icahn, and others.
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In reply to FJ43 • 4:59p, 11/30/20
Still running up
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In reply to OutlawAG04 • 5:02p, 11/30/20
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Still running up
Not that it will get there but it may have that spike to .40. Double checked to make sure I had my GTCs set for it. With 2 more hours who knows....
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
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5:02p, 11/30/20
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ONTX over $0.35 after hours. Will the partial sell order at 0.40 I set months ago get filled?!
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In reply to FJ43 • 5:03p, 11/30/20
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FJ43 said:
OutlawAG04 said:
Still running up
Not that it will get there but it may have that spike to .40. Double checked to make sure I had my GTCs set for it. With 2 more hours who knows....
Ha FJ Beat me too it! Keep going!
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5:05p, 11/30/20
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Lots of insider buying on ONTX
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5:18p, 11/30/20
Hindenburg

It should be illegal.
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In reply to tam2002 • 5:19p, 11/30/20
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Lots of insider buying on ONTX
Potential big news coming?
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In reply to Orlando Ayala Cant Read • 5:21p, 11/30/20
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Sure would seem that way
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6:08p, 11/30/20
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Tesla to Enter S&P 500 at Full Weight in December
7:01 pm ET November 30, 2020 (Dow Jones) Print

By Gunjan Banerji and Michael Wursthorn

S&P Dow Jones Indices said it will add Tesla Inc.'s full weight to the S&P 500 all at once in December, shedding more light on a mammoth addition that has captivated investors across Wall Street.

The index company said Tesla will be added to the broad stock-market gauge before the start of trading Dec. 21, meaning most index-tracking funds that follow the S&P 500 will engage in a flurry of trading the Friday before.

Tesla's market value has ballooned to about $538 billion, making it the sixth largest company in the U.S. stock market and it would have more than a 1% weighting in the S&P 500. That puts it ahead of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. but behind Facebook Inc.

More than $100 billion will be put into motion in coming weeks as passive fund managers and some actively traded mutual funds all benchmarked to the S&P 500 adjust their portfolios to make room for it, traders and fund managers say.

Weaving Tesla into the S&P 500 means shifting weightings of many other stocks to include the electric-vehicle maker. The addition also comes near the end of a year already marked by huge price swings during the coronavirus pandemic.

S&P still hasn't announced what stock Tesla will be replacing, saying it will release that decision after the market closes Dec. 11.
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In reply to Jet Black • 6:18p, 11/30/20
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Jet Black said:
Hindenburg

It should be illegal.


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Orlando Ayala Cant Read
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6:40p, 11/30/20
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OA : you've always had your pulse on ONTX pretty good. Got any thoughts? Is it one of its ten cents pumps then falls or any substance to this current climb up? (Ie will it pass .40 or .50 and sustain some)
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6:41p, 11/30/20
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If only we could determine which stock TSLA is replacing.

PUTSSSSSSSSSSS
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6:43p, 11/30/20
I posted about this earlier today, but it got buried pretty quickly.

Have a quick question about the wash sale rule.
  • If I sold my GOCO shares on 12/1/2020 at decent loss for 2020 loss harvesting reasons, then turned around and sold 1/15 puts on GOCO with the intent of getting assigned on 1/15, could I still claim the loss? It would be greater than 30 days, but I didn't know if selling the put in the meantime would violate the intent of the wash sale. Thoughts?
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6:54p, 11/30/20
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FEAC

Wow

What a move right before close and AH
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I bleed maroon
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In reply to wanderer • 6:58p, 11/30/20
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wanderer said:
I posted about this earlier today, but it got buried pretty quickly.

Have a quick question about the wash sale rule.
  • If I sold my GOCO shares on 12/1/2020 at decent loss for 2020 loss harvesting reasons, then turned around and sold 1/15 puts on GOCO with the intent of getting assigned on 1/15, could I still claim the loss? It would be greater than 30 days, but I didn't know if selling the put in the meantime would violate the intent of the wash sale. Thoughts?
I don't know this for sure, but I believe the options expiration date is irrelevant. The transaction date is what's meaningful for wash sales. I think the language involves reference to "substantially similar investments", which would seem like a real caution for you. Consult your tax advisor - but your broker should be able to answer this, as well.
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In reply to oldarmy1 • 7:17p, 11/30/20
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oldarmy1 said:


This is dated November 13th and notice went out on the 12th so it shouldn't have any effect on the stock tmr correct? The effective date of the amendment is tmr or Wednesday, but I would think it would be baked into the price as soon as the notice went out on the 12th. Or am I missing something?
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 7:19p, 11/30/20
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McInnis 03 said:
If only we could determine which stock TSLA is replacing.

PUTSSSSSSSSSSS


Coty, Macy's, Xerox?

Finviz doesn't show Coty in S&P 500 any more, but I can't find anything about it being dropped.
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 7:23p, 11/30/20
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McInnis 03 said:
I bought 3150 calls when I saw it reclaim 3140. I'm holding for now.


Quite possible I bailed too early. I got uncomfortable and I bail whenever that happens. More interested in protecting gains if we get a sell off this week.
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In reply to Fightin2010 • 7:41p, 11/30/20
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Fightin2010 said:
Sure would seem that way
For those of you that were trading ONTX the past few months - are you buying more now with this increased volume? Or are you just holding your net free shares to see where this goes? I'm interested in this one if it takes off but am concerned that I'm buying at the top and it will simply cycle back down.
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7:45p, 11/30/20
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In reply to Red Rover • 7:51p, 11/30/20
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Red Rover said:
Fightin2010 said:
Sure would seem that way
For those of you that were trading ONTX the past few months - are you buying more now with this increased volume? Or are you just holding your net free shares to see where this goes? I'm interested in this one if it takes off but am concerned that I'm buying at the top and it will simply cycle back down.
If I bought more it would've been earlier in the day right when it took off, but I missed it. I have some shares, but I'll just watch it and set stops higher. Model T 50% retrace is around .65 (from the drop from $1) and the recent high in this boxed range was back in September at .43+. Maybe that helps with where to sell at, or just set stops higher (and let it rip).

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8:19p, 11/30/20
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What's with the after hours move?
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In reply to Red Rover • 8:47p, 11/30/20
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Red Rover said:
Fightin2010 said:
Sure would seem that way
For those of you that were trading ONTX the past few months - are you buying more now with this increased volume? Or are you just holding your net free shares to see where this goes? I'm interested in this one if it takes off but am concerned that I'm buying at the top and it will simply cycle back down.
No, I'm holding what I have. My guess is this is just a cycle, and we'll be back in the mid .20's again unless there's news that hasn't been broken yet.

Edit: or you could look at the post below me and ignore my inexperienced butt...
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In reply to Orlando Ayala Cant Read • 8:48p, 11/30/20
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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:
OA : you've always had your pulse on ONTX pretty good. Got any thoughts? Is it one of its ten cents pumps then falls or any substance to this current climb up? (Ie will it pass .40 or .50 and sustain some)


I think with insiders buying this ends up at $1+ again.
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In reply to Maximus_Meridius • 8:52p, 11/30/20
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Maximus_Meridius said:
Red Rover said:
Fightin2010 said:
Sure would seem that way
For those of you that were trading ONTX the past few months - are you buying more now with this increased volume? Or are you just holding your net free shares to see where this goes? I'm interested in this one if it takes off but am concerned that I'm buying at the top and it will simply cycle back down.
No, I'm holding what I have. My guess is this is just a cycle, and we'll be back in the mid .20's again unless there's news that hasn't been broken yet.

Edit: or you could look at the post below me and ignore my inexperienced butt...


Freaking LOL edit
Gig em Stros
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In reply to $30,000 Millionaire • 8:53p, 11/30/20
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Build it up to drop it down?
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