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FattyDelights
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9:35a, 9/4/20
OSTK has been decimated. About 50% hair cut so fast from ATH.
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In reply to Jet Black • 9:36a, 9/4/20
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Jet Black said:
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Jet Black said:
Made a quick $500 on AAPL 9/4 115p. Probably could have been more but I don't feel like sitting here and watching it all day.
Nice win!


Thanks and thanks for the help. It isn't a lot of $ but making money on any options trade, I'll take it.
I think a lot of people would take some 500$ winners today
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In reply to TriumphForks • 9:36a, 9/4/20
Double down, Long term growth says we only go up
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
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In reply to Square Pair • 9:37a, 9/4/20
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Square Pair said:
tsuag10 said:


What are the blue, green, and black lines called? Also, does TD provide that graphing or do you have to subscribe to another service?
They are volume weighted avg price levels starting off the different bottoms he's marked.

I honestly don't know much past that, so I'm hoping someone else here can expand on their significance.
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9:39a, 9/4/20
Y'all need to keep in mind you don't have to trade every day. If the value isn't there, just sit on your hands. These are days where it's OK to say "Nope. I'm gonna go to the gym instead". I don't think many in here have truly traded during a correction and people can get killed and accounts blown up. Just wait. There will be opportunity to come.
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In reply to Irish 2.0 • 9:42a, 9/4/20
So what about buy and holders like myself ? Just not look at my accounts and keep throwing money at it ? When do I man up and take an L
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
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9:43a, 9/4/20
Etrade is slow AF right now
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9:44a, 9/4/20
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ALMOST opened a 344 straddle. Would have paid 100% at the moment.
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9:44a, 9/4/20
How far can aapl realistically drop today?
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9:44a, 9/4/20
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Man I get off the sidelines in QB, MBIO, MGNI, ONTX and get crushed. Figures.
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9:45a, 9/4/20
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I think if you learn a lesson during your adventure, it's important to post it here. We need to teach each other as much as giving picks and fun stories, etc.

Two painful lessons I've learned this week, learn from me. (Many of you will laugh at me for these, but hey, share and learn is better than learning alone).

1) When VIX is rising WITH the Indicies, this is a bearish divergence that you HAVE TO pay attention to. It's worth taking some risk off when this appears.
2) DO NOT TAKE RISK OFF ON HEDGES. I screwed myself by capping myself by taking risk off on SPY puts yesterday. Had I not converted these puts to small put spreads I'd have saved myself SEVERAL percentage points. I try to be risk averse, and this cost me big yesterday. Let your hedges run or fail. They're there for a reason.
***If this post is on Business and Investing, take it with a grain of salt. I am wrong way more than I am right (but I am less wrong than I used to be) and if you follow me you will be too.***

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9:46a, 9/4/20
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Apple is eating me alive.
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9:47a, 9/4/20
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***If this post is on Business and Investing, take it with a grain of salt. I am wrong way more than I am right (but I am less wrong than I used to be) and if you follow me you will be too.***

B&I Key:
ETH - Extended Trading Hours --- RTH - Regular Trading Hours
ORH - Opening Range (1st 30min) High --- ORL - Opening Range Low
R1, R2, R3 - Resistance 1, 2, or 3 --- S1, S2, S3 - Support 1, 2 or 3
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 9:47a, 9/4/20
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Apple is eating me alive.


Getting smoked too. At least it's in my retirement account, I guess.
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In reply to Jet Black • 9:50a, 9/4/20
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How far can aapl realistically drop today?
It's amazing to think one year ago we were racing towards the first Trillion dollar company. And now it sits at 2T.
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In reply to azul_rain • 9:52a, 9/4/20
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So what about buy and holders like myself ? Just not look at my accounts and keep throwing money at it ? When do I man up and take an L
Depends on what was in your account. Were you buying tech at the highs the last couple months? Are they blue blood dividend stocks? Too many unknowns to give you an answer. If it was random tech that just went along for the ride, I'd dump it. If it is a blue blood, I'd look to add more at the next major support as long as it holds.
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 9:52a, 9/4/20
Yes, I learned to let the hedges run. Hurt me big time by taking profit on them and then watching my account tank further but now with no hedges in place.
Let it ride
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In reply to MaroonDynasty • 9:53a, 9/4/20
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Etrade is slow AF right now
There is a market latency on several brokers right now
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In reply to Irish 2.0 • 9:53a, 9/4/20
Loaded up on Apple. Amazon and Tesla
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
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9:53a, 9/4/20
Has anyone checked in on Portnoy?
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 9:53a, 9/4/20
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McInnis 03 said:
I think if you learn a lesson during your adventure, it's important to post it here. We need to teach each other as much as giving picks and fun stories, etc.

Two painful lessons I've learned this week, learn from me. (Many of you will laugh at me for these, but hey, share and learn is better than learning alone).

1) When VIX is rising WITH the Indicies, this is a bearish divergence that you HAVE TO pay attention to. It's worth taking some risk off when this appears.
2) DO NOT TAKE RISK OFF ON HEDGES. I screwed myself by capping myself by taking risk off on SPY puts yesterday. Had I not converted these puts to small put spreads I'd have saved myself SEVERAL percentage points. I try to be risk averse, and this cost me big yesterday. Let your hedges run or fail. They're there for a reason.
Some perspective on number 2. I bought 355puts at .90 each a few days ago. Those are worth 18.53 right now. Huge account saver but I got stupid thinking I'd take some gains and lock them in.
***If this post is on Business and Investing, take it with a grain of salt. I am wrong way more than I am right (but I am less wrong than I used to be) and if you follow me you will be too.***

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ETH - Extended Trading Hours --- RTH - Regular Trading Hours
ORH - Opening Range (1st 30min) High --- ORL - Opening Range Low
R1, R2, R3 - Resistance 1, 2, or 3 --- S1, S2, S3 - Support 1, 2 or 3
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9:54a, 9/4/20
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Time to buy some TSLA for me
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9:54a, 9/4/20
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I bought some more QQQ and AAPL today as soon as I had both in the red. (Jumped in on both last month.)

Alas, pulled the trigger too early. Should've waited. Ah well.

Still like these for long-term holds.
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9:54a, 9/4/20
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ONTX at .19 cents now. Sure I'll buy more
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9:54a, 9/4/20
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OA seems to still be confident on ONTX

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In reply to Bob Knights Paper Hands • 9:54a, 9/4/20
Bob Knights Liver said:
McInnis 03 said:
You'd think. I know tech was the first causality today, but the rest pretty much followed....
Maybe this is rotation but with everyone being skittish it started a sell-off everywhere? Pre-market is up for every sector except for tech and industrial



If so should we expect an overall red day for the market but a small green day for financials, energy, consumer discr/staples, and health care?
...or maybe not
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9:54a, 9/4/20
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ARKK and ARKW are 15% off over the past two days. If it gets to 18%, I'm buying them all back
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 9:54a, 9/4/20
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McInnis 03 said:
I think if you learn a lesson during your adventure, it's important to post it here. We need to teach each other as much as giving picks and fun stories, etc.

Two painful lessons I've learned this week, learn from me. (Many of you will laugh at me for these, but hey, share and learn is better than learning alone).

1) When VIX is rising WITH the Indicies, this is a bearish divergence that you HAVE TO pay attention to. It's worth taking some risk off when this appears.
2) DO NOT TAKE RISK OFF ON HEDGES. I screwed myself by capping myself by taking risk off on SPY puts yesterday. Had I not converted these puts to small put spreads I'd have saved myself SEVERAL percentage points. I try to be risk averse, and this cost me big yesterday. Let your hedges run or fail. They're there for a reason.
Exact same issues I had this week. My cut was to take profits earlier and be happy and others I should have closed faster and taken the loss. FOMO F'ed me
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In reply to Aggie_2463 • 9:54a, 9/4/20
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Man I get off the sidelines in QD, MBIO, MGNI, ONTX and get crushed. Figures.
Same here, ill double up on MGNI though when the knife stops falling.
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9:56a, 9/4/20
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Brutal selloff but the gap filled so some value buying here makes sense.
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In reply to oldarmy1 • 9:57a, 9/4/20
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Brutal selloff but the gap filled so some value buying here makes sense.
Still holding DIS calls?
Let it ride
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In reply to oldarmy1 • 9:59a, 9/4/20
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oldarmy1 said:
Brutal selloff but the gap filled so some value buying here makes sense.

OA, what do you think is really badly oversold right now? For us longer simple traders just to hold and watch for a while?
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In reply to TriumphForks • 10:00a, 9/4/20
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OA seems to still be confident on ONTX

Thanks I missed that tweet from OA. For ONTX'ers it may be worthy of reading the thread to that tweet and responses.
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 10:01a, 9/4/20
McInnis 03 said:
McInnis 03 said:
I think if you learn a lesson during your adventure, it's important to post it here. We need to teach each other as much as giving picks and fun stories, etc.

Two painful lessons I've learned this week, learn from me. (Many of you will laugh at me for these, but hey, share and learn is better than learning alone).

1) When VIX is rising WITH the Indicies, this is a bearish divergence that you HAVE TO pay attention to. It's worth taking some risk off when this appears.
2) DO NOT TAKE RISK OFF ON HEDGES. I screwed myself by capping myself by taking risk off on SPY puts yesterday. Had I not converted these puts to small put spreads I'd have saved myself SEVERAL percentage points. I try to be risk averse, and this cost me big yesterday. Let your hedges run or fail. They're there for a reason.
Some perspective on number 2. I bought 355puts at .90 each a few days ago. Those are worth 18.53 right now. Huge account saver but I got stupid thinking I'd take some gains and lock them in.
Number 1 is exactly why I was nervous on Wednesday, so I thinned out my winners, dumped my losers and bought a 9/9 SPY 356P.

Number 2 is exactly why I shouldn't have sold the 356P for 150% gain on Thursday, I could have sold it today for 20x. A win is a win, even when everything else is a loss.
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10:04a, 9/4/20
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Incredible, best day ever. I held spy puts and vxx calls overnight... I cashed out of 348P's and VXX calls (all today exp). Will see if I can add a hedge for next week on a rip back up this afternoon.
Also, adding a spy call (out a month) here as a cheap winner. We may drop a little more, but won't matter much.


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