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Dan Scott said:

If these stocks hit these levels, they start to look interesting in my opinion.

XOM < 75
MCD < 150
FB < 170
AAPL < 150
JPM < 100


As someone who owns shares in all of those except JPM, I'd prefer they not drop...but will definitely start looking to add more at those levels.
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RangerRick9211 said:

PDEMDHC said:

Is XIV something any of you are looking to invest in once this craziness stops?

My gut is telling me to go for it at some point...


CS still hasn't decide if they're unwinding or not. They are one of the largest bag holders.


Found a Reddit post yesterday that discussed what is happening right now back in August 2016.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/4x5gjh/how_i_made_356k_on_xiv_in_two_years_and_my/

I was out looking for buy low opportunities. I'll look somewhere else. Thanks!
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NASDAQ has halted XIV.

They just said on CNBC that CS commented that they're fully hedged on the $500MM XIV they hold and that price movement/IV is in-line with yesterday's volatility. I think they'll liquidate.
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Since you posted a Reddit link - r/tradeXIV might be the saddest place on the internet right now.
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RangerRick9211 said:

Since you posted a Reddit link - r/tradeXIV might be the saddest place on the internet right now.


Didn't know about this sub... Ouch.. if anyone needs any feel better material when they feel they lost a lot, visit this
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I'm asking this question here, been lerking on this thread for awhile, and don't want to hear the minions in the forum. I have a pretty large some of money sitting in cash(low 6 dig) it's in my wife's retirement account. (Frustrating that's its been in cash, but that's a story for another day). Anyhow, with this pull back, I want her to get the money back into the market, and was thinking index funds. Was thinking 25%+ today, then watching how thing shake out and try and get the majority in this year?? It's a long story of why it's been sitting in cash that is for another conversation . I know this thread has been more about trading but there seems to be some respectable folks with good advise here.
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Too bad all those in that trade got Fd....

If you got to read daily dirtnap today it would have done you a great service. Have been discussing the short VIX trade for a while...
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Game over: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-06/credit-suisse-terminates-xiv

Quote:

Credit Suisse AG Announces Event Acceleration of its XIV ETNs New York February 6, 2018 Credit Suisse AG ("Credit Suisse") today announced the event acceleration of its VelocityShares Daily Inverse VIX Short Term ETNs ("XIV") due to an acceleration event. The acceleration date is expected to be February 21, 2018.
https://www.credit-suisse.com/pwp/cc/doc/credit_suisse_age_event_acceleration_xiv_etns.pdf
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Wowzers, the curve swings hard the other way and VXX hit circuit breakers: https://www.nasdaqtrader.com/trader.aspx?id=TradeHalts

No one is safe in volatility right now!
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SVXY will survive.

Once it resumes trading, it will trade around $12, or +250% off of yesterday's close.
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Can someone tell me how to figure out what the heavy movers are in a mutual fund FAMRX?

It dropped like 4% today, and I'm not sure how to figure what it is exactly bringing it down, or if it's just a bunch of stuff. Looking at holdings page, 5 out of the top 10 holdings had gains today, and none had large losses.
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aren't you looking at yesterdays close price?
62strat
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Diggity said:

aren't you looking at yesterdays close price?
I'm not sure. But yesterday was same thing; huge drop, yet looking at the chart, I don't see any big movers. Granted it only shows like top 20 holdings, and it says there are like 2000 holdings, so there could be lots of negatives I'm not seeing?

Diggity
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funds like that don't show the daily settlement price until the end of the day.

I'm pretty sure whatever it was in yesterday (unless it was VIX) **** the bed.
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http://fundresearch.fidelity.com/mutual-funds/fundfactsheet/316069707

More detail in their 2017 investment report:
http://quote.morningstar.com/fund-filing/Annual-Report/2017/9/30/t.aspx?t=FAMRX&ft=N-CSR&d=7d387e91ed6ce5facc0321f5c00d7838
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Today was the definition of CAPITULATION. What a wild ride. Day traders had to need shock therapy after those wild swings.
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Just an observation on historical analytics. Markets would be wise and likely to enter a period of sideways action after the meteroic rise. With the election year expect more turbulence that could lead to testing supports. Looking at a sideways to resistance market on up days putting in place covered calls a strategy returns as the chief strategy. Obviously select stocks can, and will break out (See our TWTR long term holdings strategy finally breaking out on getting their model tweaked to profit for the 1st time - Up $6 premarket signalling a breakout trend to likely end up around $37 with longer term resistance at $52)

There you have the 30k foot view. Hope it helps!
Ranger222
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GRUB also impressive earnings as well. Along with TWTR, playing SNAP and ROKU and keeping an eye on SQ
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You guys are going to ask me to leave, aren't You? Last time I posted markets dropped 1000+ and now today.

It's not me, I swear!!!
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Break the 2520 LVN, and it's to 2400. After that it's 2320 and 2215. That would fill the gaps as well. There isn't much volume to support the market up here, and the 2014-2016 tops are balanced. Get any real capitulation and things could get quite nasty. Though, I suspect buyers will step in.
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Quite the sell off here this week.
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Ranger222 said:

GRUB also impressive earnings as well. Along with TWTR, playing SNAP and ROKU and keeping an eye on SQ
ive watched roku for months now. I've bought it once at 40ish and sold it on a spike. It keeps bouncing off of that 39 range. I am half expecting it to break below it at some point. How are you playing it?
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GRUB just went into a big partnership with YUM to deliver KFC and Taco Bell. YUM took a $200MM position in GRUB
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How do they short volatility? Would be interested to know the mechanics behind that work. Is it as simple as selling some kind of collar on the s&p?

Obviously we just buy an etf that shorts VIX but how does that work
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My prediction (based on gut feel and not much else) is that Dow will drop to the 19,000-20,000 range before this pullback is over, about 25% off the January highs.
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I own GRUB and NVDA and still took an unmerciful beating today. It just didn't matter if it was a great quality company or speculative one with no earnings. If it was a stock it probably got sold hard today.
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Sorry to hear that, but if you have owned nvda for some time, you've done just fine
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NVDA up 9.6% after-hours from earnings beat
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I think the "low" depends on whether or not inflation really shows up. I tend to think we see a lot of volatile sideways action until there are better proof points outside bond yields. I'm ready to back the truck up at 22.5 and 20
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LGF-A beat earnings by a mile and is down over 10% this morning. Sitting near the low end of all estimates for the stock. Not sure I'm comfortable with entertainment companies like them right now. What do y'all think?
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Really sexy bounce off the 200 MA
Dan Scott
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Going short again, have a feeling well test 200 again.
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