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BrokeAssAggie
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Sea Speed said:

AustinAg008 said:

Another pipeline scrapped in the NE. Folks are going to wake up to some serious pain on their utility bills starting this winter and continuing for the foreseeable future.

Regardless of your stance on hydrocarbons it amazes me how folks can bury their heads in the sand and think that renewables will make up the void lost to natural gas?


The worst part is they won't put 2 and 2 together when those bills hit.
You get what you vote for.
Sea Speed
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But then they move here because they don't like the outcome.
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This was posted at the gas station around the corner from my house in Houston
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tamuags08 said:

This was posted at the gas station around the corner from my house in Houston



That's great, FJB!
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Woke up this morning to $6.25 natural gas. How high does this go? Seems like Europe is driving this.
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ChemAg15 said:

Woke up this morning to $6.25 natural gas. How high does this go? Seems like Europe is driving this.
Reported on CNBC today that price in the UK, if converted to $/mscf, was like $26. Reasons for it was wind farms off the North Sea were producing less than anticipated and Russia turning off supply. Smile cause sometimes freezing your ass off is the only way to learn,
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ChemAg15 said:

Woke up this morning to $6.25 natural gas. How high does this go? Seems like Europe is driving this.


Asia is now competing for LNG volumes too. Here before too long they'll start burning diesel and crude.

With winter on the horizon here in the US it could be a nice little sustained run for crude / natty.
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These gulf coast terminals are gonna get BUSY.
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I asked my class of '98 son a question about the WAHA differential today and he referred me to this thread for expert comment.

SUMMARY..Why did the WAHA HUB differential move from 17 cents in 8/2021 to 70 cents in 9/2021? What were the rational/logical reasons for the 53 cent gap? Is the future for the WAHA differential predictable? Is there a public website (not behind a pay wall) that tracks and discusses the WAHA differential?

TLDNR...As a relatively small producer, I have been selling produced and processed NG through the WAHA hub for decades. Until 2016/2017 it was merely a small deduct from my revenue stream (2011-2016 averaged a negative 13.5 cents and ranged from 8 cents to 20 cents). Then the unconventional boom knocked the Permian Basin exit pipelines (both crude oil and natural gas) into a different universe from 2017 to 2020 (12/2018 WAHA differential was > $4.00). With new exit pipeline capacity and the unconventional boom fizzling a little bit, calendar year 2021 looked like a return to WAHA normalcy was likely. The first three months of 2021 bounced from negative to positive differentials and then seemed to settle a little. From the 5 month period April 2021 through August 2021 the WAHA range was a negative 17 to 36 cents with a constantly rising NYMEX price. The 9/2021 WAHA differential was 70 cents. What happened?
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Others can chime in, but my first guess would be a combination of the EPNG south mainline explosion constraining a main west-bound takeaway and demand tapering off from peak summer loads. There was also a decent amount of planned maintenance in that region as well.
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Thanks. I forgot about the Cali market curtailment. That would increase the demand to ship gas from that pipeline elsewhere. I am going to check the timing, but it seems right.

Maintenance on the supply side would reduce the differential (???) by lowering demand for space. Pipeline maintenance (& shut down) would increase the differential…

I wish I could find a transparent analysis of the ins and outs impacting pricing!
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The EPNG pipeline explosion occurred on 8/15/21. The WAHA diff settled on 9/2, so the timing is right…

On a sad note, I did not realize that the explosion killed a father and daughter, and injured the mother…
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Cabot-Cimarex merger do anything for anyone here? Is this unique or one of many that we'll see over the next few months?
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For those asking about LNG (US GC assets) selling extra gas...

They might not be able to. I've been working with a couple of LNG guys and the bigger issue is FERC allows you to draw a yearly rate, divided by 365. If you don't pull your rate for that day, you might be able to go a little higher the next day, but essentially it is a "use it or lose it" number.

So to increase the amount you could make, you need to ask FERC (and PHSMA, however you spell it) for permission to increase your yearly rate (which in turn affects your daily rate).

So if your site can process 85 MMSCFD of gas, that's actually 31.025 BCF/a. You go down for 3 days because of a refrigerant compressor seal, you just lost out on a tanker (or 2) of LNG.

And unlike other O&G facilities, you have to go back for federal approval to increase production. For example, if you have space on your environmental permit and want to produce more NH3 (ammonia), you can. Assume your equipment can handle it. No additional approvals needed (as was the case with a previous client as well). They went from 100% to 110% after doing a performance test. But if Cheniere wants to go to 110% of their daily rate, they can't. Unless they have approval from FERC.

~egon
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That is very interesting. Do you have a link to anything that discusses that? I'd like to share it hut dont want to say this guy on a message board told me that, although I do not doubt you whatsoever.
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So the question is, who has extra capacity that they aren't utilizing? May be easier to acquire a competitor with extra capacity than get permits changed?
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Sea Speed said:

That is very interesting. Do you have a link to anything that discusses that? I'd like to share it hut dont want to say this guy on a message board told me that, although I do not doubt you whatsoever.


I always have to say, some Aggie buddies in the industry.
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With friends i wouldn't hesitate, id like to discuss this with some potential business partners in a very tangential business that benefits greatly from increased LNG exports. Or at least use it as a talking point/conversation starter.
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BMach said:

So the question is, who has extra capacity that they aren't utilizing? May be easier to acquire a competitor with extra capacity than get permits changed?


All of the domestic LNG export facilities are maxed out and will continue to be so until you start to see crazy demand destruction here in the US which could be something like a sustained +$10 HH pricing. The only extra capacity come online in the near term is Sabine Pass Train 6 which is ramping up as we speak.
Sea Speed
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Isn't there a facility south of lake charles that should be coming online in the near future?
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Calcasieu Pass won't ramp up to full operations until after this winter.
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Good post!

You were close but It's PHMSA (Pipeline and Hazardous Material Safety Administration) FYI.
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Phmsa doesn't deal with tariffs and rate cases. They'll handle the safety aspect under the Dept of Transportation regulations (49 CFR 190-199)
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Jdrexgman said:

Calcasieu Pass won't ramp up to full operations until after this winter.
Ok, i thought there were some ships loading there starting october and then ramping up from there. bummer it wont be going full bore until after the new year. I have heard that 100-200 ships a year might load there. that is gonna be great for that port.
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Dr. Doctor said:

For those asking about LNG (US GC assets) selling extra gas...

They might not be able to. I've been working with a couple of LNG guys and the bigger issue is FERC allows you to draw a yearly rate, divided by 365. If you don't pull your rate for that day, you might be able to go a little higher the next day, but essentially it is a "use it or lose it" number.

So to increase the amount you could make, you need to ask FERC (and PHSMA, however you spell it) for permission to increase your yearly rate (which in turn affects your daily rate).

So if your site can process 85 MMSCFD of gas, that's actually 31.025 BCF/a. You go down for 3 days because of a refrigerant compressor seal, you just lost out on a tanker (or 2) of LNG.

And unlike other O&G facilities, you have to go back for federal approval to increase production. For example, if you have space on your environmental permit and want to produce more NH3 (ammonia), you can. Assume your equipment can handle it. No additional approvals needed (as was the case with a previous client as well). They went from 100% to 110% after doing a performance test. But if Cheniere wants to go to 110% of their daily rate, they can't. Unless they have approval from FERC.

~egon
similar to a nomination a little further upstream. Even if down for a couple of hours you usually are not allowed to increase capacity to make up to your daily total.
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Jdrexgman said:

BMach said:

So the question is, who has extra capacity that they aren't utilizing? May be easier to acquire a competitor with extra capacity than get permits changed?


All of the domestic LNG export facilities are maxed out and will continue to be so until you start to see crazy demand destruction here in the US which could be something like a sustained +$10 HH pricing. The only extra capacity come online in the near term is Sabine Pass Train 6 which is ramping up as we speak.


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Sea Speed said:

Jdrexgman said:

Calcasieu Pass won't ramp up to full operations until after this winter.
Ok, i thought there were some ships loading there starting october and then ramping up from there. bummer it wont be going full bore until after the new year. I have heard that 100-200 ships a year might load there. that is gonna be great for that port.



RBN has a great blog post this week talking about upcoming LNG adds along the gulf coast as well as the potential for more west coast export terminals.
Sea Speed
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I'm not familiar, would you be so kind as to post a link? I appreciate it.
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Jdrexgman said:

Calcasieu Pass won't ramp up to full operations until after this winter.
With the looming global energy crisis, at what point do we start considering limiting LNG exports? I know there is still a lot of gas out there that becomes economical at higher gas prices, but most of the core shale fields have been drilled up and our on a steady decline. We aren't anywhere close to being able to rely on renewables and no administration is considering nuclear unfortunately.
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Skillet Shot said:

Jdrexgman said:

Calcasieu Pass won't ramp up to full operations until after this winter.
With the looming global energy crisis, at what point do we start considering limiting LNG exports? I know there is still a lot of gas out there that becomes economical at higher gas prices, but most of the core shale fields have been drilled up and our on a steady decline. We aren't anywhere close to being able to rely on renewables and no administration is considering nuclear unfortunately.


https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/winter-is-coming-should-the-u-s-hang-on-to-its-natural-gas-11633080653

They're already raising the issue with the Export Industry pushing back . The spreads to Europe/Asia are too wide right now to incentivize curtailments.

It could be the high priced HH scenario that starts to curtail domestic industrial demand because they won't turn off residential for home heating.

But if even if HH shoots to the moon, Europe and Asia will just bid up their prices and things could get crazy quickly.
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I appreciate these posts. Can anyone explain why FERC has the ability to limit production like that? Is this not what OPEC does just with a couple extra steps?
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Looming global energy crisis meaning this winter? Or long term shale decline?
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Current winter will drive prices higher on the interim. But long term, all the western countries are committing to renewables without building new nuclear and curtailing hydrocarbons. I don't see how we eventually get into a global energy supply issue, especially with China and India populations using more energy as the middle class grows.
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https://rbnenergy.com/hear-my-train-a-comin-part2-rising-lng-exports-hitch-us-gas-to-soaring-ttf-jkm-prices

https://rbnenergy.com/go-west-red-hot-natural-gas-markets-help-push-north-american-lng-to-asia

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