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Technically two fleets running but both fleets were sitting in Victoria yesterday. I believe one was rigging up today or tomorrow. Not sure on the other one. Regardless, we don't have a frac bank to speak of right now. Just the lapse in time from drilling rig move to frac rig up. Short answer, we aren't staring at 100 wells that have not been completed like others are apparently doing.
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Gotcha. One fleet is rigging up today i think. I thought we had a small inventory of to-be-fracd wells but due to offset drilling they were staying idle for now. Either way, there's not a huge backlog by any means.
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You might be right on the offsets. I know there is a point in June where both fleets will idle for about three weeks.

Sorry for the derail. Back to rising oil prices and buying useless ****!
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Should be upstream MLPs. The closer to the well head the more volatile. Transmission and distribution are somewhat...I stress somewhat...insulated.


We fit the transmission category and its business as usual. You should see the construction and material prices I am seeing. For those that can build during this time, we will be able to build at 75% of the cost of just one year ago. The only major difference is that we are seeing more JV in order to mitigate risks.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-23/u-s-shale-fracklog-triples-as-drillers-keep-oil-out-of-market-i8u004xl
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all of those graphs show increases from 2013 and see upticks starting in about January of 2014 while oil was still climbing. This to me indicates more that when oil was on the rise, people were having trouble getting frac crews running fast enough to keep up with the drilling rigs. I know the EF operator i was at in summer of 2014 was still trying to train/build another frac crew to be able to keep with their rigs.
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MLP's are the next group to feel the pain LINN started the bloodletting.
Thats crazy being that MLP's generally are low risk and shallow decline with a modest CAPEX program. If they are in a bind after cutting distributions, the independents with active drilling programs are hemorrhaging.

I've said this before, but the upstream MLP is a crappy model. They won't hardly drill, so the vast majority of their growth comes from acquisitions. If they're not out-acquiring their depletion their NAV is declining in a flat price environment. They need to hedge production to protect their cash flow, but no one wants to hedge in the backwardated market we were stuck in for so long before this "bust" started. The upstream MLP model works well when you can buy production at a PV20 on the strip. If your numbers are right and there's not a lot of backwardation, you can hedge production as you buy it, pay an 8% dividend and grow at 12%. It's been years since you could do that with any kind of volume and growth companies aren't developing projects to sell to MLPs (drilling all PUDs). They're drilling just enough to PUD up the acreage then selling it to larger growth companies who will continue to drill.

Linn and Breitburn have accepted that they can't continue their current model so they've taken over $1B each in the past few months from equity and bond offerings so they can run small growth companies on the side to develop acreage and sell PDP assets into the MLP. To me, they've told themsleves "Our business model doesn't work, so let's take the business model that's working for everyone else, do that on the side and see if it can feed our other model that's not working."

"Independents with active drilling programs" is a pretty broad brush since there are a lot of variables within that category. I'm an independent with an active drilling program and we're doing okay. Our rates of return aren't what they were at $100 oil, but they're still positive and I'm more optimistic now (versus $100 oil days) that our development costs are down 28% and continue to fall. The guys that maxed out credit facilities at $100 pricing are taking a haircut on cash flow and are having to pay down their revolvers since their collateral value is being cut. They're also not able to participate in development at cheaper prices.

The way to succeed in this cyclical business is be conservative when prices are good. Pay down debt, sell off marginal assets, and accumulate cash. Debt is a noose when it's getting called and your income is going down. Those marginal assets are now liabilities and cash is king. The time to borrow money is when prices are down and your collateral has a much stronger chance of appreciating in value rather than depreciating.
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As to frac backlog, we're delaying completions because we think frac prices will be cheaper tomorrow than they are today. We continue to drill because we think most of the cost cutting on the drilling side has already taken place. I would guess it will be cheaper to drill tomorrow than today, but not much cheaper. I know there are some other operators delaying completions, but I'd guess most are not delaying completions as they need the production income sooner rather than later for balance sheet preservation.
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How much has frac pricing dropped already?

I feel like frac got hit twice with pricing concessions while drilling only got hit once.
TxAg20
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How much has frac pricing dropped already?

I feel like frac got hit twice with pricing concessions while drilling only got hit once.

~30% in several steps for us, but they were also increasing prices through October of last year. The first 20% was just getting back to early 2014 prices. A lot of their cost is variable with acid, proppant, and chemicals.
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I would assume this means you guys think that commodity prices are going to continue to dip? For the very small number of projects we are deferring, it's mainly about realizing cheap drilling costs while avoiding producing wells at prices which result in marginal or even uneconomic returns. That being said, forecasted price increases essentially are offset by the time value inpact of the deferral and it looks like more or less a wash from our perspective. However we are capital constrained in this environment so we will wait to complete until econs are better while using the limited CAPEX on higher ROR.
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I don't think the prices can get low enough for us to justify any kind of drilling from a project ROI. Now to maintain production and EBITDA, thats another story...
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Rig Count down 31 to 703, combined is at 932 lowest since mid 2009
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What does combined consist of? There's only like 31 offshore. Is the 700 oil and combined includes gas?


Yes
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Everyone who is either out of work or short handed at work; don't let the stress of the job or finding one get to you too bad. We found out yesterday that one of our VPs passed away in his sleep Sunday night. He was in his mid-fifties and was healthy from all indications. Obviously, it's still a little unclear what caused the sudden tragedy, but you have to think that the stress on the job played into it at least a little. Our group has downsized by nearly 50% over the last year and his role was getting more challenging by the day as we were still expected to do more with less. These can be tough times but we can't forget to take care of ourselves and our families at home!
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Things will turn around in Oil & Gas. Having said that expect 4 or 5 downturns over the next 30 yrs or so. If you can't handle that you should consider another line of work.
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Everyone who is either out of work or short handed at work; don't let the stress of the job or finding one get to you too bad. We found out yesterday that one of our VPs passed away in his sleep Sunday night. He was in his mid-fifties and was healthy from all indications. Obviously, it's still a little unclear what caused the sudden tragedy, but you have to think that the stress on the job played into it at least a little. Our group has downsized by nearly 50% over the last year and his role was getting more challenging by the day as we were still expected to do more with less. These can be tough times but we can't forget to take care of ourselves and our families at home!
That's right. People were jumping off buildings during the Great Depression back in FDR's day. It's a permanent solution to a temporary situation. This too shall pass.
agdaddy04
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Sucks hearing about friends at Baker this week...
aw08
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Yup, heard they for rid of several crews. Had a buddy that has 8 months experience as a FE since graduation. T&P for those families.
Ragoo
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Yup, heard they for rid of several crews. Had a buddy that has 8 months experience as a FE since graduation. T&P for those families.
feels like 2009. I was laid off after only a few months on the job. Took nearly 5 months to find a job. Been almost 6 years now.
agdaddy04
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Quite a few more gone from Tomball too. Old BJ folks.
aduey06
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Received a call today from a vendor that just submitted a quote on a SWD injection pump to let me know the sales guy that I had been working with was let go. The sales guy had been very helpful and put a good proposal together. I am still in the review process but it looks like this vendor could get the order. Would it be right to make it continent on this guy getting his commission?
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i would or make them cut the price of hte commission. no one else deserves it.
AggieBQ03
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Are you sure there was a commission at all? Depending on the company there may not have been one.
Fuzzy Dunlop
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Sucks hearing about friends at Baker this week...
What is going on at Baker this week? I presume more lay offs but where, besides Tomball?
Matt Schwab
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Received a call today from a vendor that just submitted a quote on a SWD injection pump to let me know the sales guy that I had been working with was let go. The sales guy had been very helpful and put a good proposal together. I am still in the review process but it looks like this vendor could get the order. Would it be right to make it continent on this guy getting his commission?


He won't get it regardless, and most likely there wasn't one. Which vendor? I was Baker's HPump guy for a few years.
aduey06
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I don't know what their policy is, just feel bad for the guy. It was with borets. Next time I talk with them, I may bring it up casually and see what they say.
Matt Schwab
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He would be under the same structure as we were at Baker. It's a year end bonus for performance and that's already gone if he's been let go.
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Do any of you guys have any projections or thoughts on new drilling activity in the Haynesville and Bossier Shales? A few months ago, around 2015 budget time, we had a real flurry of new well permits but so far the actual number of new wells drilling has only trickled up. I wondered if that was more due to all the rain we have been pounded with or the current price and price projections of natural gas.
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He likely got a severance package of sorts. You can't get personally involved like that.
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Bloomberg article

I thought this was a good read and a nice look back at some of the predictions made since last fall.
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Bloomberg article

I thought this was a good read and a nice look back at some of the predictions made since last fall.
good article.
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Do any of you guys have any projections or thoughts on new drilling activity in the Haynesville and Bossier Shales? A few months ago, around 2015 budget time, we had a real flurry of new well permits but so far the actual number of new wells drilling has only trickled up. I wondered if that was more due to all the rain we have been pounded with or the current price and price projections of natural gas.


It doesn't rain in the oilfield, it rains on it. It's because of commodity prices.
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