Favorite National Park?

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My opinion: one day at Bryce is enough. It really depends on how much hiking you want to do. Bryce is at like 8k feet so the air is thin for Texans. You can really enjoy the place just stopping at the pullouts. Thors hammer, sunset point, and Sunrise point in particular. If you want to hike Queens Garden and Navajo Loop Trail are two of the best. At some point you say a hoodoo is a hoodoo and the different views of the amphitheater (it isn't really a canyon) start to run together!
We are spending a day at Bryce Canyon in early June... trying to put my day together - can you give more clarity on these locations, parking, and the route to take?
We're driving in an RV so not sure if you park and shuttle, or just drive from 1 spot to the next... based on TexAgs reviews in this and other threads, here's what I have - but this is multiple threads pulled into one so it's not accurate, I know... Any guidance you can provide to line up our day in the correct order would be really appreciated..

o Wake up and drive 15 minutes to Bryce Canyon - Shuttle to the end of the park and see Bryce Point.
o Hike the Rim trail to Inspiration Point. Also consider Fairyland Loop Trail and Bristlecone Pine Loop.
o Lunch at Valhalla Pizza but also coffee/breakfast
o Hike Queen's Garden and Navajo Loop Start at Sunset Point. Hike north (left) along the canyon rim until you reach Sunrise Point. From there follow the Queens Garden Trail to a 4 way intersection down at the bottom of the canyon. Continue straight ahead into the Wall Street half of Navajo Loop which will return you back to Sunset Point.
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You can park and use the shuttle or drive to each stop. We drove, but then we were in a car and at the park with sunrise during the middle of the week. For us we ran up there for a day during a week in Zion. Considering the RV...the shuttle might be easiest.

The itinerary looks good to me. You will see Thors hammer plenty on the rim trail. You might consider going to see two bridges along the Nacaho Loop before backtracking and going up wall street on your way out.

The one change I'd make is to do queen's garden and navajo first IF you are there early. Those are two of the more popular hikes. The rim trail doesn't get the same amount of traffic because you can drive to all the lookouts. So after lunch it might be better being on that and do the
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I have no ****ing clue why the St Louis Arch is now a National Park but I'm here so I ticked it off the list.


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BSD said:

I have no ****ing clue why the St Louis Arch is now a National Park but I'm here so I ticked it off the list


AMEN!

I saw it like 10 years ago....do I have to go back now?
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Just discovers this Bs a few days ago. They also just made Indiana sand dunes one.
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I had read that the arch and Indiana Sand Dunes got bumped up....I just can't see how the arch can even remotely be justified.

We have a book that must have been written prior to 2013 so we were severely disappointed to discover a couple years ago about Pinnacles because it wasnt in our book....its gotta be better than the arch though.
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mpl35 said:

They also just made Indiana sand dunes one.


What. The. ****???
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My guess is that the east coast is butt hurt about their lack of National Parks so they've been lobbying to get some added. NP's are great for tourism and when you look at the current distribution about 90% of them are in either the western or southeastern US (SEC states)

I wouldn't be shocked to see more borderline national monuments get added to the NP ledger in the coming years. The precedent set by adding a man made feature is pretty troubling and I hope that gets shut down before we see Empire State Building NP or something silly like that. The NP system is for preserving natural beauty and escaping the urban jungle.

What sucks about it is that when you go to a national park you kind of expect to be blown away by it. This is why when I went to Pinnacles, I was so underwhelmed. It's clearly National Monument territory and has some fun hikes and gives you a chance to see Condors, but it's not in the same ball park as Yosemite and Sequoia in California.
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you think pinnacles is bad? i imagine (never been) the NP in ohio and south carolina are even worse...however, IMO the most underwhelming NP belongs to hot springs in Arkansas...just not impressed at all.
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My dad just visited Congaree and his advice was to not rush to go see it. We havent done Coyahoga yet either....actually, Yosemite is one of the last big exciting ones that we haven't been to and don't have scheduled yet.

At least Indiana Sand Dunes is close to Chicago.
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Many areas out west are better than the official NPs to the east.
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We made another trip out to Big Bend last weekend - just my son, my father, and myself. I think Chisos Basin has moved into my top 3 favorite campgrounds.



We hiked Santa Elena Canyon, which was pretty short but really beautiful




We watched the sunset through The Window



We hiked the Lost Mine Trail





The next adventure is our Utah trip in May
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We take on Utah May 25-June 4... have we interacted already about your itinerary? Mine is stacked deep but always looking for more advice for our trek from Phoenix through all of Utah, to Vegas in an RV
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A quick trip to Everglades yesterday:






And Biscayne today:
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We're going the week of mother's day but to be honest, I'm not completely sure the full itenerary.

I know we're camping just outside of Bryce and are planning to spend the majority of our time there. We will day trip up to Capital Reef one day and day trip to Great Basin another day.

We have been to Zion once before but I think my son and I might sneak over there one day to try Angel's Landing - if we can get the green light from Momma.

I was just reading that with the late snowfall, the Narrows aren't going to be open until really late this year. It wasn't on our radar for this trip but just something to keep in mind.

If you're RVing, be aware that the wind is always pretty gusty starting about an hour east of the Hoover Dam (as you're traveling to Vegas)....so give yourself a little extra time to drive carefully there.
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Been to Cuyahoga Valley NP in Ohio and it's definitely not one to make a trip out of. We lived within a few hours of it so it was an easy overnight trip. Pretty sure there are only a few campsites for backpackers hiking through the park. We did an easy hike to a waterfall (just ok, weren't there at the high flow) and went to a nice marsh. There's a passenger train that goes through the length of the park. It's like a really nice larger state park, not NP
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We did our Utah trip last week and had a great time.

We used Bryce as a home base for the first half of the trip and day tripped to Great Basin NP and Zion NP (a return trip).

We saw the hoodoos in Bryce and hiked down Queens Garden into the canyon (Navajo Loop was still closed due to snow).




Great Basin was cool - I was REALLY looking forward to the Bristlecone Pine Trail but when we got there we found out that the road up to it was still snowed in. That was kind of a bummer. We did a cave tour down in Lehman Cave which my 7 y.o. daughter actually really liked (we've done a number of other caves but for some reason this one captured her attention).

My son and I got up super early and drove over to Zion and hiked Angel's Landing - that was a bucket list hike for me and it was pretty spectacular. It was a non-holiday weekday but the Visitor Center parking lot was 2/3 full by 7:15am.

We had been to Zion a few years ago, but I forgot how stunning it is. We came in the east entrance and the drive between the entrance station and the tunnel is amazing.

It took us 2 hours from the trail head to the summit - if we had been any later that time would have been significantly longer because we were able to beat the crowd. The switchbacks on the way up are the hardest part of the hike physically - once you get to the chains it's a little more mental (noticeably more on the way down when you're looking down at your footing). Afterwards we soaked our feet in the Virgin River, which was pretty dogon cold.







Initially, we were going to day trip to Capitol Reef NP from Bryce but we called an audible when we landed a campsite at Fruita Campground inside the park so we left Bryce and stayed at CRNP. VERY glad we did - Fruita was a gorgeous campground and I'm glad we had a little more time in Captiol Reef - it was probably my favorite of the Mighty Five, and probably fits the initial question from the OP when this thread was started.



I hiked Cohab Canyon just before sundown.








The whole family hiked Grand Wash....it was 4.4 miles, the furthest my daughter has hiked, but it was completely flat....and really cool.




Then we headed to Moab, which was also not part of our original plan. We didn't go into Arches or Canyonlands (did those on our previous trip) but we used our couple days there to just chill. If we had planned the stop, I would have tried to pull a permit for Fiery Furnace but on such short notice there weren't any slot available.

My son and I did a Jeep tour through Hell's Revenge, which was pretty awesome.





We ate at The Spoke - it is brand new and was a little bit discombobulated in terms of seating/wait times but the food was great and it was a pretty cool building/atmosphere.

We also ate at The Brewery and my son and I had the best burger ever - Tri-Tip Bacon Cheeseburger with Jack Daniels BBQ sauce and two onion rings.

On the way home, we found out that Moab is basically the same drive distance home as Estes Park is, which kinda surprised me.

Next trip will be mid-June out to Louisville where we'll do some non-park stuff and then hit Mammoth Cave NP.
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Badass.
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Was back at the Great Smoky Mountains yesterday. Didn't take a lot of pics, but this was the top of Mt Le Conte. One of the best hikes we've done.
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Haleakala summit area this morning:










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How do you guys post pics? We are trekking through Utah now and I'd post but don't know how to get the pics off my iPhone camera roll
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I use the imgur app. I upload the photo, then hold my finger on the uploaded picture until a menu pops up and press "copy link" on my iPhone. Then I paste it in the thread.
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When we were in Maui we skipped the Hana Highway and instead went counterclockwise from Haleakala to Kipahulu along the coast on HW360 and hiked to Pipiwai Falls.

It's got some gravel sections, and some blind corners but it was the coolest drive we've ever done.
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Since you mentioned it, we just completed that circle today. We stayed in Hana the last two nights so had 3 full days on the Hana Highway and associated sights. That's really the way to do it. I've done the Hana circle in a day...it's too rushed. I was able to relax this time: hit a few different beaches and had them all to myself, went horseback riding, and wasn't rushed at all.

This was actually our second visit to Haleakala. In fact, this was the first National Park that my son and I visited together about 6 years ago. We did the pools and the Pipiwai trail this morning. They don't allow access into the pools anymore so that kind of sucks. But here are some pics:






And the payoff view!


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So beautiful!
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Congaree is nice, but I agree it's not at a NP level. The really cool thing to see there is when the fireflies synchronize around Memorial Day. It's surreal.
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The wife and kids are driving up to StL over the next couple of days to stop by the newly minted "Gateway Arch National Park"....I made sure they packed appropriately for their adventures at one of God's amazing natural gems. I'm so upset that I'm going to miss that one.

I'm flying up Thursday evening and we're bolting over to Louisville for a few days and then they're hitting up Mammoth Cave on the way back home.
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Haha. The Arch is still cool, the kids will dig it. I wonder if the river boat is still shut down from the flooding. They can also get Jr Ranger badges at the courthouse next door, and Ulysses Grant's home about 15 minutes away. We also drove to Springfield to see Lincoln's home and earned a badge there, as well.

Speaking of Lincoln, his birth site is not too far from Mammoth. It's another replace to grab a badge.
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We are going to Lincoln's birthplace and to Boonesville to see where Daniel Boone built his fort and lived.....(and I'm going to try to make a dent in the Bourbon Trial)
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Just got back from a 1400 mile journey through the Mighty 5. Capitol Reef was probably my favorite overall due to the general lack of crowds. My wife & I hiked the Fremont River Trail (2.1 miles & about 400' of elevation gain) and didn't see another soul once we left the campground area.
The feel of the park reminded me of the basin campground at Big Bend (albeit with more trees!).
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Just finished up our trip - the wife and I with 4 kids ages 11-16 - it was great!!
Key to this Utah trip was going early summer - it's getting hot now.. (but Spring Break is too cold for us..)

Utah RV Trip
May 25 - June 5, 2019
12 days/11 nights 1,650 Miles

location, National and State Parks we visited, forecast temperature that day - (low-high)

  • Phoenix 0 nights Camelback Mountain 63-93
  • Sedona 1 night Sedona, Slide Rock SP, Grand Canyon, Lake Powell 48-72
  • Page - 1 night Horseshoe Bend, Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley 45-64 am rain
  • Monument Valley 1 night Arches National Park 50-74
  • Moab 1 night Canyonlands, Dead Horse State Park 50-74
  • Moab 1 night Goblin Valley SP, Little Wild Horse Canyon SP, Capitol Reef 44-65
  • Torrey 1 night - Boulder, Escalante Petrified Forest SP 48-71
  • Bryce Canyon 1 night Bryce Canyon, Kodachrome SP 38-65
  • Mount Carmel 2 nights Zion National Park, Coral Pink Sand Dunes SP 55-83
  • Las Vegas 2 nights Bellagio 72-95
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Volcano National Park on the Big Island of Hawaii
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As requested, here's a write-up of our trip. We ended up driving 4400 miles over 19 days visiting 11 National Parks + Mount Rushmore. I worked up a rough estimate of cost and excluding souvenirs, I think we spent about $5K on Hotels, Food and Gas. I worked our itinerary to where we never had a drive longer than 8 hours and all of the hikes were appropriate for my 3 and 6 year old children who came with me and my wife.

We started out driving from Monterey, CA to Yosemite and spent two full days in the Park. We started in the South seeing the Mariposa Grove of Sequoias before heading to Glacier Point and hiking up to the top of Sentinel Dome and finishing out the day seeing tunnel view before heading to our hotel for the night. The next day we hiked the Yosemite Falls trial and Mist Trail as well as heading over to Bridalveil Falls and El Capitan to walk around and admire the park. This was my second time going to Yosemite and it just blows every other park out of the water in my opinion in terms of beauty and wonder.

Here's a picture from near Glacier Point.







I wanted to drive the Tioga Pass as we left the park and visit Death Valley on the way to Las Vegas, but unfortunately the pass was still closed due to heavy snowfall so we just went the boring way and drove to Las Vegas for a one night pit stop on the way to Zion for two nights.

Zion was totally different then Yosemite, mostly because of how hot it was. Temperatures were in the mid 90's and luckily our first couple of hikes were partially shaded because my non-Texan children were melting. The second day we did an exposed hike up the Watchman trail and were greeted by an epic view at the top.









After Zion, we drove scenic route 12 and 24 seeing Bryce Canyon and Capitol Reef on our way to Moab. We spent about 3 hours in Bryce, and I think that was enough for me. The amphitheater full of hoodoos was pretty cool but the park didn't grab my imagination like Yosemite and Zion had.



Capitol Reef on the other hand, I made a big mistake by not allocating more time to. It was gorgeous even as the weather turned on us a bit and a thunderstorm moved in. We only spent 2 hours in the park but I want to find a way to go back and spend a couple days hiking and exploring.





We got to Moab late at night and then headed to Canyonlands and Dead Horse State Park the next day. Again the weather was hot which slowed my kids down so we only hiked the Grand View trail and the Mesa Arch before going to Dead Horse.





The next day we hiked through Arches seeing the double arch and windows formations and went off roading a bit through the park to get away from the crowds.



Overall after finishing the Utah 5, Zion was my favorite followed by Capitol Reef, Canyonlands, Arches and then Bryce.

Next we had a along drive up to Jackson, Wy and our three days in the Grand Tetons. My wife and I ended up really liking this park because of the weather, smaller crowds and great hikes. We spent the first day at Jenny Lake hiking up to Hidden Falls and Inspiration point and then just strolling around the lake.





Next we drove up to Yellowstone and had an interesting adventure for two days. The weather turned crazy and it starting snowing on us with temperatures dipping down into the 20's. I still enjoyed seeing the Yellowstone Falls and Grand Canyon of Yellowstone.


We really didn't get out and hike much because we didn't have the right clothes and so we mostly just engaged in drive by tourism. Of course, that included getting stuck in traffic for 2 hours behind a herd of Buffalo before we finally just decided to leave the park and head on to Cody, WY for a night before driving to Keystone, SD to see Mt. Rushmore, Wind Cave and the Badlands.

Rushmore was cool, especially for me as a history major, but as some on here had mentioned, there isn't much to do, so the 4 hours we spent was enough. Wind Cave was a cool little park, and we did a ranger led hike (mandatory) through the cave which was well put together and informative. Then we drove through the park (it's small) seeing plenty of Buffalo and prairie dogs. (I couldn't get any good pictures inside the cave)

The next day we went to the Badlands, and I loved it! I should have budgeted more time to hike around as we only spent about 5 hours there. The colors were just so vibrant between the banded canyons and the yellow wildflowers.





Finally, we headed to Rocky Mountain NP for the last stop on this trip before heading to Amarillo and then Dallas. And we really enjoyed the park, the wildlife viewing was unbelievable with huge herds of Elk roaming the park. We ended up doing an unbelievable hike from Bear Lake up to Emerald lake that included trekking through the snow up to the still partially frozen lake.





My final ranking of the parks is:

  • Yosemite
  • Grand Teton
  • Rocky Mountain
  • Zion
  • Badlands
  • Capitol Reef
  • Canyonlands
  • Yellowstone
  • Arches
  • Bryce
  • Wind Cave

Hopefully y'all enjoy the pictures and if you have any questions about anything else we did I'd be glad to share.
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Awesome update!

Only suggestion I have for you is for your next trip.. fly to Calgary, drive to Banff and stay a few days, then drive 6 hours south to Glacier NP, Montana for a week or two, then back up through Waterton NP and back to Calgary.. you have seen everything else
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Looks like a great trip. Thanks for sharing. you did some nice hikes considering you have a 3 and 6 year old tagging along. good job!
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Thanks, I'm hoping to teach them how important it is to get out and enjoy nature. The three year old turns 4 in August and he was an absolute machine on the trails. Clif bars and gummies were good motivators to get to the top of some of the more challenging hikes. We averaged about 4 miles per day with a max day of 7 miles.

In a few months we're going to the great smoky mountains and Congaree NP so hopefully they're just as motivated to hike.
 
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