***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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4:47p, 1/30/25
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Dana sticking to the previous offer and not even negotiating.

Love it
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In reply to Ag_07 • 4:49p, 1/30/25
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Offer needs to go down 100k/ AAV each day.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 4:50p, 1/30/25
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We had a better offseason than the Blue Jays but Heyman would never say that.
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4:52p, 1/30/25
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the Astros better not be offering more than 5 years now

if no one else is
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In reply to Daddy-O5 • 4:54p, 1/30/25
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I think I'm ok just standing pat.

We know Crane is willing to go over the tax for Bregman. So tell him and Boras the offer is the offer, it's there when he's ready to sign it, and sit back and relax. Let them sweat it out.

The bus leaves for West Palm with or without Bregman so it's up to him at this point.
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4:57p, 1/30/25
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Why are the Jays out?
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In reply to Ag_07 • 5:24p, 1/30/25
Ag_07 said:
I think I'm ok just standing pat.

We know Crane is willing to go over the tax for Bregman. So tell him and Boras the offer is the offer, it's there when he's ready to sign it, and sit back and relax. Let them sweat it out.

The bus leaves for West Palm with or without Bregman so it's up to him at this point.
They don't sweat in that scenario. They feel great knowing they have their ex to sleep with anytime they want while looking for something better. At some point you out a deadline on it.
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5:29p, 1/30/25
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If this happens then the Jays are out.

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In reply to Farmer1906 • 5:30p, 1/30/25
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I posted this earlier, but according to sportrac, they are already at an estimated $239-244m payroll with the scherzer signing. They can't take on much now without hitting the tax
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 5:31p, 1/30/25
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I don't think they have an issue with the tax. They were in on Ohtani & Soto.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 5:32p, 1/30/25
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Farmer1906 said:
I don't think they have an issue with the tax. They were in on Ohtani & Soto.

Imagine potentially going that far into the tax only to finish in the back half of your division.
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5:39p, 1/30/25
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Something to remember, the current CBA ends after the 2026 season (2 years away). That is likely to be a very ugly showdown involving a work stoppage and potentially losing games in 2027 over a lot of the economic issues facing the game. Free agents this year and next might be less likely to go for the short term deals with opt outs because they won't want to be free agents possibly subjected to a new unknown system. I would hope this plays into our favor with Alex to where he would take a longer term deal rather than.a prove-it deal.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 5:52p, 1/30/25
I suspect players are optimistic the luxury tax threshold gets a hefty increase. The Dodgers being willing to blow that threshold out of the water will be a leverage point as to why other clubs can't spend significantly more than they are.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 6:02p, 1/30/25
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Farmer1906 said:
If this happens then the Jays are out.

Jim Bowden on Foul Territory said the Blue Jays would only be in on Pete if the price came down.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 6:20p, 1/30/25
Needs to be a hard salary cap like the NFL and probably a salary floor too. Also, restrict future deferred deals.

But the players will also lowly fight those pretty hard.
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In reply to Wabs • 6:20p, 1/30/25
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Wabs said:
We had a better offseason than the Blue Jays but Heyman would never say that.
my thoughts exactly
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 6:22p, 1/30/25
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EastCoastAgNc said:
Something to remember, the current CBA ends after the 2026 season (2 years away). That is likely to be a very ugly showdown involving a work stoppage and potentially losing games in 2027 over a lot of the economic issues facing the game. Free agents this year and next might be less likely to go for the short term deals with opt outs because they won't want to be free agents possibly subjected to a new unknown system. I would hope this plays into our favor with Alex to where he would take a longer term deal rather than.a prove-it deal.


MLB network the other day was saying owners are willing to wait it out up to 18 months. Not sure where that came from, but to get a salary cap it would be something on that order. Then what would be left of the game. It was terrible after the last stoppage.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 6:24p, 1/30/25
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EastCoastAgNc said:

This has the potential to be kinda awkward
Or might have a big announcement to insure it's all about Breggy
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 6:26p, 1/30/25
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bearkatag15 said:


A couple of Astros pitchers and their sons made the list


Is there a tweet with just Gallo and all the other pitchers in the MLB?


~egon
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In reply to Nitro Power • 6:29p, 1/30/25
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Nitro Power said:
EastCoastAgNc said:
Something to remember, the current CBA ends after the 2026 season (2 years away). That is likely to be a very ugly showdown involving a work stoppage and potentially losing games in 2027 over a lot of the economic issues facing the game. Free agents this year and next might be less likely to go for the short term deals with opt outs because they won't want to be free agents possibly subjected to a new unknown system. I would hope this plays into our favor with Alex to where he would take a longer term deal rather than.a prove-it deal.


MLB network the other day was saying owners are willing to wait it out up to 18 months. Not sure where that came from, but to get a salary cap it would be something on that order. Then what would be left of the game. It was terrible after the last stoppage.

MLB Network is owned by MLB, which means they carry the owners water. That was likely a direct message somebody wanted sent to the players union.
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6:55p, 1/30/25
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At least we know he won't hit there
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7:00p, 1/30/25
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Yeah glad we didn't sign him for that kind of money
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7:04p, 1/30/25
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Boras will think this is an advantage for bregman
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


MAGA

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7:07p, 1/30/25
We didn't need Polanco and we don't need Bregman. I'm fine with our current roster and just rolling with new guys fighting for spots in the outfield

We have Doubon as an infield/outfield utility player. Not exciting, neither is Polanco
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 7:10p, 1/30/25
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I'm sure it's a lot of performance based incentives.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 7:12p, 1/30/25
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Yeah glad we didn't sign him for that kind of money


Lol

They bought out an 12 M extension for 750k. I guess they changed their mind.
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In reply to AggiEE • 7:12p, 1/30/25
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We didn't need Polanco and we don't need Bregman. I'm fine with our current roster and just rolling with new guys fighting for spots in the outfield

We have Doubon as an infield/outfield utility player. Not exciting, neither is Polanco


I agree with this mostly. We need OF help. Especially lefty hitting OF help and there are some decent guys out there who can be had cheap.
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In reply to AggiEE • 7:12p, 1/30/25
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AggiEE said:
We didn't need Polanco and we don't need Bregman. I'm fine with our current roster and just rolling with new guys fighting for spots in the outfield

We have Doubon as an infield/outfield utility player. Not exciting, neither is Polanco

The appeal of Jorge was he was a switch hitter
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In reply to TarponChaser • 7:18p, 1/30/25
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AggiEE said:
We didn't need Polanco and we don't need Bregman. I'm fine with our current roster and just rolling with new guys fighting for spots in the outfield

We have Doubon as an infield/outfield utility player. Not exciting, neither is Polanco


I agree with this mostly. We need OF help. Especially lefty hitting OF help and there are some decent guys out there who can be had cheap.


I don't get why we don't sign Ben Gamel on the cheap
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7:21p, 1/30/25
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The Astros offered Polanco one year at around $5M is what I was told.
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In reply to AggiEE • 7:21p, 1/30/25
AggiEE said:
TarponChaser said:
AggiEE said:
We didn't need Polanco and we don't need Bregman. I'm fine with our current roster and just rolling with new guys fighting for spots in the outfield

We have Doubon as an infield/outfield utility player. Not exciting, neither is Polanco


I agree with this mostly. We need OF help. Especially lefty hitting OF help and there are some decent guys out there who can be had cheap.


I don't get why we don't sign Ben Gamel on the cheap


Gamel, Heyward, Verdugo, and even Grichuk even though he's a righty.
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In reply to superaggie73 • 7:37p, 1/30/25
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superaggie73 said:
texasaggie2015 said:
Who remembers when we played games on good ole channel 51?


I'll show my age by remembering watching the Astros on HSE (channel 37 on cable). Even had Dierker in the booth before he became manager.


I remember when there wasn't any local TV for 45's games.
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In reply to TarponChaser • 7:57p, 1/30/25
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TarponChaser said:
AggiEE said:
TarponChaser said:
AggiEE said:
We didn't need Polanco and we don't need Bregman. I'm fine with our current roster and just rolling with new guys fighting for spots in the outfield

We have Doubon as an infield/outfield utility player. Not exciting, neither is Polanco


I agree with this mostly. We need OF help. Especially lefty hitting OF help and there are some decent guys out there who can be had cheap.


I don't get why we don't sign Ben Gamel on the cheap


Gamel, Heyward, Verdugo, and even Grichuk even though he's a righty.


As someone made the point yesterday, with all the money you're not spending on Bregman you could even afford sign all 4 and then cut a few of them in Spring Training! C'mon Dana!
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In reply to Kashchei • 7:58p, 1/30/25
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Hasn't it been said that Crane will only go over the luxury tax threshold if it's for Bregman
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In reply to AggieJ2002 • 8:03p, 1/30/25
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Yes
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