What are you talking about? They're number 1….redline248 said:
Am I supposed to believe the Yankees aren't even worth a billion dollars?
Nonetheless, future cash outlays to goal value isn't the best metric, honestly.
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Nonetheless, future cash outlays to goal value isn't the best metric, honestly.
Those teams wouldn't be in the market for Ohtani even if deferrals weren't allowed so how is that relevant?EastCoastAgNc said:The deferrals alone are greater than the total value of 7 MLB franchises. The “any owner could do this,” is the most annoying message the media is trying to shove down people’s throats. https://t.co/TjgUI1cpwq pic.twitter.com/LFkJbiEfyp
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) January 19, 2025
So you multiply the number next to each franchise shown by $1m. Grab a cup of coffee and try it on your iPhone.redline248 said:
Am I supposed to believe the Yankees aren't even worth a billion dollars?
They won't go bankrupt but the debt will affect the sale. Maybe instead of $6 billions, they sell for $5.5B. $1B in deferred debt to us peons sounds like a lot but it's all relative. What MLB won't like is that $5.5B number. Owners want a team to sell for as much as possible because that's a price point indicator when they sell.Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:
My new mission in life is to live long enough to see this backfire on the Dodgers in 20 years and they go bankrupt.
I mean it boils down to we have a luxury tax because not every owner/team has the same budget to spend on players. It's meant to try and keep the playing field somewhat in balance.
Deferred contracts simply give them away to get around that. The "any team can do it" argument is moot. Any team can figure out how to increase their budget and spend more on players too. So why have a luxury tax in the first place? It's simply increasing the threshold of the luxury tax for the richer teams.
Deferred contracts simply give them away to get around that. The "any team can do it" argument is moot. Any team can figure out how to increase their budget and spend more on players too. So why have a luxury tax in the first place? It's simply increasing the threshold of the luxury tax for the richer teams.
tjack16 said:
Chiefs go 7th straight AFC title game (2018-2024).
3 Super Bowl wins, 1 Super Bowl loss
Similar to the Astros 2017-2023 if we had won another title
Helps to have NFL refs on your side
They don't entirely get around the luxury tax. It's discounted based on assumed inflation but is accounted for. They should get rid of the discount altogether if they want maximum deterrence.
The Dodgers clearly just don't care about the luxury tax threshold. The extra $6 or 7 million in taxes Ohtani would cost them if all $70M per year counted instead of $56M or whatever it is doesn't seem like it would make them flinch.
The Dodgers clearly just don't care about the luxury tax threshold. The extra $6 or 7 million in taxes Ohtani would cost them if all $70M per year counted instead of $56M or whatever it is doesn't seem like it would make them flinch.
Deferred money accumulates an agreed upon interest rate that is compounded annually. Doubtful you will see this amount to be greater than the annual federal mid-term rate + 1.5% given the current CBA agrement.Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:
I have tried to figure out the economics on this, but someone smarter needs to tell me if I am right.
By deferring their payments by 10+ years, aren't ohtani and the other players significantly devaluing how much money they make overall? Because of inflation, the power of a 2025 dollar will be much lower inv2034 and even lower in 2043.
Of course, someone could accept an interest rate at 0% or any other amount less than the federal mid-term rate.
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Monthly Federal Rates
Which AFR (Applicable Federal Rate) should you use?
- Terms of three years or less. If the term of a debt instrument is three years or less, the applicable federal rate is the federal short-term rate.
- Terms of over three years but not over nine years. If the term of a debt instrument is over three years but not over nine years, the applicable federal rate is the federal mid-term rate.
- Terms of over nine years. If the term of a debt instrument is over nine years, the applicable federal rate is the federal long-term rate.
Ah, it's a comma and not a decimal in thereProject Gemini said:So you multiply the number next to each franchise shown by $1m. Grab a cup of coffee and try it on your iPhone.redline248 said:
Am I supposed to believe the Yankees aren't even worth a billion dollars?
The graph is in millions, so 7,550 million for the yankees is $7.55bn.redline248 said:
Am I supposed to believe the Yankees aren't even worth a billion dollars?
Well then I'll put faith in the story Chapelle told on SNL this past week about Los Angelesf1ghtintexasaggie said:Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:
My new mission in life is to live long enough to see this backfire on the Dodgers in 20 years and they go bankrupt.
lol @ you if you think MLB would sit idly by and ALLOW the LAD to go bankrupt, even if events were to transpire to bring about such a possibility (not even remotely likely).
There's just too many factors. If you were a rational-thinking person, you have to at least consider the possibility that God hates these people.
Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:
My new mission in life is to live long enough to see this backfire on the Dodgers in 20 years and they go bankrupt.
The league would bail them out. They're "too big to fail"…. "Unprecedented"…. Something something….
In my early stupor I thought it said 7.5 x millionJose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:The graph is in millions, so 7,550 million for the yankees is $7.55bn.redline248 said:
Am I supposed to believe the Yankees aren't even worth a billion dollars?
Anthony Santander is headed to Toronto pic.twitter.com/3hbQ1qr8w8
— Talkin’ Baseball (@TalkinBaseball_) January 20, 2025
Canada trying to steals Americas thunder. 5 year deal.
Some detail:
— Ari Alexander (@AriA1exander) January 20, 2025
Opt out after 2028, but club can void 2028 opt out by picking up 2030 team option, per source.
FACKFarmer1906 said:Anthony Santander is headed to Toronto pic.twitter.com/3hbQ1qr8w8
— Talkin’ Baseball (@TalkinBaseball_) January 20, 2025
but 5 years?! Yeesh
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
Need to sign Profar......
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
Mr.Bond said:
Need to sign Profar......
No. That would be a bad move.
A bad move would be proceeding with our current outfield as is......EastCoastAgNc said:Mr.Bond said:
Need to sign Profar......
No. That would be a bad move.
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
I think Randal Grichuk is the singing. He is from Houston, would be relatively cheap. 260-275 hitter with 15-20 HRs
Mr.Bond said:A bad move would be proceeding with our current outfield as is......EastCoastAgNc said:Mr.Bond said:
Need to sign Profar......
No. That would be a bad move.
While that's true, profar had one good year, and his other years are awful. If we want that kind of risk, we can get it much cheaper
Santander deal is for 5 years plus an option, more than $90M
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) January 20, 2025
Johnny Foosball said:
I think Randal Grichuk is the singing. He is from Houston, would be relatively cheap. 260-275 hitter with 15-20 HRs
So basically Chas?
redline248 said:
Am I supposed to believe the Yankees aren't even worth a billion dollars?
Exactly. Unless you believe what he did last year will carry forward, he's been closer to last year Chas and Jake for his career as a whole. Plus he's not as good defensively.EastCoastAgNc said:Mr.Bond said:A bad move would be proceeding with our current outfield as is......EastCoastAgNc said:Mr.Bond said:
Need to sign Profar......
No. That would be a bad move.
While that's true, profar had one good year, and his other years are awful. If we want that kind of risk, we can get it much cheaper
I do not want to spend any money on Profar. I'll eat crow if he produces similar or slightly less this year than he did last year.
For his career, Profar is closer to last year's Jake and Chas. Unless you think he's turned it around after 8 years in the league, he's more likely to be like our current outfield, just a heck of a lot more expensive.Mr.Bond said:A bad move would be proceeding with our current outfield as is......EastCoastAgNc said:Mr.Bond said:
Need to sign Profar......
No. That would be a bad move.
I'm going to be freebasing Advil by mid-June if we're rolling Jake and Chas out there night after night unless Chas has a big-time bounce back.
I like Grichuk but he would be yet one more righty. This team needs a lefty badly.Johnny Foosball said:
I think Randal Grichuk is the singing. He is from Houston, would be relatively cheap. 260-275 hitter with 15-20 HRs
Farmer1906 said:Johnny Foosball said:
I think Randal Grichuk is the singing. He is from Houston, would be relatively cheap. 260-275 hitter with 15-20 HRs
So basically Chas?
You wish.
I would take that. I just don't know that we will get that. Chas is a total guess.
Is Verdugo going to be who we sign?
Im good with passing on 5 years of Santander
From 4 days ago, I believe the Astros offer of 156/6 is still there and if Bregman wants to come back he can.
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) January 20, 2025
But it looks like he's wanting to be paid $30M a year, which the Astros won't match.
Snow in Houston is more possible than Bregman coming back https://t.co/g5oAXUFOWx
I don't believe it.
Match? Match makes it sound like someone has offered that. Which I don't believe....or else he'd have signed...
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