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MLB radio this morning basically said "great player but the Mets are still in 3rd place in the NL East".
The have no starting pitching, soon to be no 1B and no 3B. Add in that Soto is not a great defender and it's a fair argument that from a baseball team perspective, they would have been better off spending that money on 2-3 players.
But who am I to argue with Steve Cohen?
The have no starting pitching, soon to be no 1B and no 3B. Add in that Soto is not a great defender and it's a fair argument that from a baseball team perspective, they would have been better off spending that money on 2-3 players.
But who am I to argue with Steve Cohen?
astros4545 said:If you listen to us on @SportsTalk790, you know the voice of a loyal listener/caller named Ms. Carol. She’s a diehard Astros fan that brought passion & energy to every time she called our lineup. Ms. Carol lost her battle with cancer back on Nov 16, 2024. She was 71.
— Brian LaLima (@BLima790) December 9, 2024
She was an icon on the post game call in show
Mark Vientos has a pretty damn good year at 3B.
astros4545 said:If you listen to us on @SportsTalk790, you know the voice of a loyal listener/caller named Ms. Carol. She’s a diehard Astros fan that brought passion & energy to every time she called our lineup. Ms. Carol lost her battle with cancer back on Nov 16, 2024. She was 71.
— Brian LaLima (@BLima790) December 9, 2024
He's also projecting to be their 1B.
Farmer1906 said:
If you assume 1 WAR = 8 M, Soto will need to have 96 WAR for the rest of his career to break even. Only 21 players in history have a career WAR of 96 or more. If Soto were to reach another 96 WAR, he'd finish his career 7th all-time with 132 WAR behind Ruth, Bonds, Mays, Cobb, Wagner, & Aaron.
Soto is going to end up an all-time great. This is a massive overpay.
All this assumes he doesn't pull up limp with a torn hammy in year 3, or rounds a base a bit too aggressively and tears an ACL/MCL never to be the same hitter again. This is just stupid money, even from Mr. Moneybags Cohen.
She was always extremely optimistic and she loved her stros. On a side note wasn't she also blind?tjack16 said:astros4545 said:If you listen to us on @SportsTalk790, you know the voice of a loyal listener/caller named Ms. Carol. She’s a diehard Astros fan that brought passion & energy to every time she called our lineup. Ms. Carol lost her battle with cancer back on Nov 16, 2024. She was 71.
— Brian LaLima (@BLima790) December 9, 2024
She was an icon on the post game call in show
I did.agproducer said:I hope you called him out on this.The Porkchop Express said:
Talking to White Sox fan on Zoom.
Tried to talk smack to me about them beating the Astros in the '03 World Series....
I did the same to a Mets fan at Disney World 2 weeks ago who told me that Nolan Ryan left the Astros for the Rangers so he could be closer to Alvin. I thought I was going to have to kill that guy with my bare hands for a few minutes.
Sure, IDK which corner he'll end up at, but he fills one of those holes.Mathguy64 said:
He's also projecting to be their 1B.
Farmer1906 said:Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:EastCoastAgNc said:Heyman: Yankees offered Juan Soto $760M over 16 years.
— Underdog MLB (@Underdog__MLB) December 9, 2024
Meanwhile we are over here saying $300M over 10 years is too much for Tucker
Tucker's price tag may be more like 350-400 if he has a big year.2nd Portion of Juan Soto Contract 10-$460M covers age 31-40 seasons
— MLBExecutiveBurner (@HotStoveintel) December 9, 2024
Positions Astros Kyle Tucker to ask for 10-$400M+. Will be entering FA at 29 years old next offseason
Smart of Tucker’s camp to resist extension overtures by Astros to this point. Likely our next $400M man
I understand the risk of losing a last year of competing at the level of the past eight years, but this is why I hate letting these guys walk. The Astros will not swim in that ocean, so why not get what you can today? We're about to be the Cincinnati Reds. It is the worst possible decision- in my foolish mind, anyway.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
Good morning from the winter meetings. Juan Soto will be in Houston on Opening Day. Who may join him? - https://t.co/6uTp9fX8WN
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) December 9, 2024
Another thought:All I do is Nguyen said:Username checks outMathguy64 said:
It's $139,630.39 a day.
It's $5817.93 an hour.
It's $96.97 a minute.
It's insane.
The Mega Millions jackpot is currently sitting at about $619 million. If you took the annuity (thoguhts aside), you'd be getting just over $20.5 million a year for 30 years (before taxes, of course...we are comparing this with the Soto contract).
He'll be getting $51MM per year for 15 years.
~egon
Among those spotted in the lobby of the winter meetings: Jorge Polanco, whom the Astros have interest in as a third baseman.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) December 9, 2024
Source confirms: Free-agent right-hander Jordan Romano in agreement with Phillies on one-year deal above his projected arbitration number of $7.75M, pending physical. First: @JeffPassan
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) December 9, 2024
Actually there's a 4-year opt out. If he doesn't take that, the salary escalates to $55 million per year for the 5th-15th years, and it becomes an $800+m deal.Dr. Doctor said:Another thought:All I do is Nguyen said:Username checks outMathguy64 said:
It's $139,630.39 a day.
It's $5817.93 an hour.
It's $96.97 a minute.
It's insane.
The Mega Millions jackpot is currently sitting at about $619 million. If you took the annuity (thoguhts aside), you'd be getting just over $20.5 million a year for 30 years (before taxes, of course...we are comparing this with the Soto contract).
He'll be getting $51MM per year for 15 years.
~egon
Payroll Check-In:
2025 CBT: 241 M
Estimated 2025 CBP: 228 M
We only have about 13 M to play with without going over. We will go over unless we get creative with trades (Pressly and...?), but we will be able to get back under in 2026 even with a big signing or two.
We have the following coming off the books after 2025:
*estimated arb
**outright or released
If we assume we increase Breggy's offer to 6/165 (27.5 per) then we still have around 50-60 M to play with to stay under in 2026. That could get you a stud arm or the Polar Bear. Crane would have to be willing to eat the tax money in 25 along with the draft & international repercussions.
Could you imagine how stacked 25 would feel if we ran out a lineup of:
Or Take Pete out and then your rotation is:
No reason we wouldn't be the favorite to win the AL. This is why I am against moving Framber and Tucker. We have a shot to get back to the WS in 25. We're been spoiled but those don't come around often.
2025 CBT: 241 M
Estimated 2025 CBP: 228 M
We only have about 13 M to play with without going over. We will go over unless we get creative with trades (Pressly and...?), but we will be able to get back under in 2026 even with a big signing or two.
We have the following coming off the books after 2025:
- Framber 17.5*
- Tucker 16.0*
- Pressly 14.0
- Caratini 6.0
- Montero 11.5**
- Abreu 19.5**
- Total: 84.5 M
*estimated arb
**outright or released
If we assume we increase Breggy's offer to 6/165 (27.5 per) then we still have around 50-60 M to play with to stay under in 2026. That could get you a stud arm or the Polar Bear. Crane would have to be willing to eat the tax money in 25 along with the draft & international repercussions.
Could you imagine how stacked 25 would feel if we ran out a lineup of:
- Altuve
- Alvarez
- Alonso
- Tucker
- Bregman
- Diaz
- Pena
- McCormick
- Meyers
Or Take Pete out and then your rotation is:
- Framber
- Fried
- Brown
- Blanco
- Spaghetti / McCullers
- Javier in the 2nd half.
No reason we wouldn't be the favorite to win the AL. This is why I am against moving Framber and Tucker. We have a shot to get back to the WS in 25. We're been spoiled but those don't come around often.
It always looks good on paper….
And the results usually turn out pretty good too.Hornbeck said:
It always looks good on paper….
Bregman and Alonso is the dream. I think we need 2 bats at minimum. 5-9 spots just killed our offense last year
I would prefer to not see Chaz or Meyers in an Astros uniform again.
It's funny you say that because we got **** production from the 4-5 spot, but had killer production from the 6th spot. It was more like 7, 8, and 9 were middle of the pack.EABC_AG said:
Bregman and Alonso is the dream. I think we need 2 bats at minimum. 5-9 spots just killed our offense last year
1 - 126 wRC+ (6th in MLB)
2 - 136 (4th)
3 - 158 (2nd)
4 - 92 (23rd)
5 - 104 (13th)
6 - 126 (2nd)
7 - 85 (20th)
8 - 86 (15th)
9 - 81 (13th)
PH - 121 (3rd) - good job, Joe.
Wabs said:
I would prefer to not see Chaz or Meyers in an Astros uniform again
I would prefer to get fluffed nightly by a rotation of Kate Upton, Alicia Viklander and Dillion Harper but I think we will both be disappointed.
at this point...it looks like Dana's plan is to run it back with same dreadful bottom half of the lineup
Dana is just as handcuffed as he's always been unfortunately. It's a ****ty situation.
What?? You didn't include Kate Beckinsale?Mathguy64 said:Wabs said:
I would prefer to not see Chaz or Meyers in an Astros uniform again
I would prefer to get fluffed nightly by a rotation of Kate Upton, Alicia Viklander and Dillion Harper but I think we will both be disappointed.
I think he is "handcuffed" and in a bad situation if he (and Crane) are focusing more on 2025 than on 2026 and beyond. We have some valuable pieces that we could use to "reset" with good, young (controllable) talent. If that is not in the plan and we're sticking with "run it back" in 2025, then we'll run right back to where we ended last season. Just my opinion.texasaggie2015 said:
Dana is just as handcuffed as he's always been unfortunately. It's a ****ty situation.
I'll see if I can work her in my already crowded schedule.Wabs said:What?? You didn't include Kate Beckinsale?Mathguy64 said:Wabs said:
I would prefer to not see Chaz or Meyers in an Astros uniform again
I would prefer to get fluffed nightly by a rotation of Kate Upton, Alicia Viklander and Dillion Harper but I think we will both be disappointed.
I mean handcuffed as in he doesn't have free reign to do his job the way the vast majority of GMs would be able to do
Well that's very unfortunate then...texasaggie2015 said:
I mean handcuffed as in he doesn't have free reign to do his job the way the vast majority of GMs would be able to do
Mathguy64 said:Wabs said:
I would prefer to not see Chaz or Meyers in an Astros uniform again
I would prefer to get fluffed nightly by a rotation of Kate Upton, Alicia Viklander and Dillion Harper but I think we will both be disappointed.
What's this about handcuffs, Kates and rotations?
~egon
freaking Jeff Bagwell...texasaggie2015 said:
I mean handcuffed as in he doesn't have free reign to do his job the way the vast majority of GMs would be able to do
Who said anything about handcuffs?Dr. Doctor said:Mathguy64 said:Wabs said:
I would prefer to not see Chaz or Meyers in an Astros uniform again
I would prefer to get fluffed nightly by a rotation of Kate Upton, Alicia Viklander and Dillion Harper but I think we will both be disappointed.
What's this about handcuffs, Kates and rotations?
~egon
Who are these people? They sound made up. Need some photographic evidence.
Free-agent right-hander Alex Cobb in agreement with Tigers on one-year contract, sources tell @TheAthletic. Deal is pending a physical.
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) December 9, 2024
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