***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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MLB radio this morning basically said "great player but the Mets are still in 3rd place in the NL East".

The have no starting pitching, soon to be no 1B and no 3B. Add in that Soto is not a great defender and it's a fair argument that from a baseball team perspective, they would have been better off spending that money on 2-3 players.

But who am I to argue with Steve Cohen?
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astros4545 said:




She was an icon on the post game call in show
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Mark Vientos has a pretty damn good year at 3B.
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astros4545 said:



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He's also projecting to be their 1B.
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Farmer1906 said:

If you assume 1 WAR = 8 M, Soto will need to have 96 WAR for the rest of his career to break even. Only 21 players in history have a career WAR of 96 or more. If Soto were to reach another 96 WAR, he'd finish his career 7th all-time with 132 WAR behind Ruth, Bonds, Mays, Cobb, Wagner, & Aaron.

Soto is going to end up an all-time great. This is a massive overpay.


All this assumes he doesn't pull up limp with a torn hammy in year 3, or rounds a base a bit too aggressively and tears an ACL/MCL never to be the same hitter again. This is just stupid money, even from Mr. Moneybags Cohen.
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tjack16 said:

astros4545 said:




She was an icon on the post game call in show
She was always extremely optimistic and she loved her stros. On a side note wasn't she also blind?
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agproducer said:

The Porkchop Express said:

Talking to White Sox fan on Zoom.
Tried to talk smack to me about them beating the Astros in the '03 World Series....
I hope you called him out on this.
I did.
I did the same to a Mets fan at Disney World 2 weeks ago who told me that Nolan Ryan left the Astros for the Rangers so he could be closer to Alvin. I thought I was going to have to kill that guy with my bare hands for a few minutes.
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Mathguy64 said:

He's also projecting to be their 1B.
Sure, IDK which corner he'll end up at, but he fills one of those holes.
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Farmer1906 said:

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tjack16 said:

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Meanwhile we are over here saying $300M over 10 years is too much for Tucker


Tucker's price tag may be more like 350-400 if he has a big year.




I understand the risk of losing a last year of competing at the level of the past eight years, but this is why I hate letting these guys walk. The Astros will not swim in that ocean, so why not get what you can today? We're about to be the Cincinnati Reds. It is the worst possible decision- in my foolish mind, anyway.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
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All I do is Nguyen said:

Mathguy64 said:

It's $139,630.39 a day.

It's $5817.93 an hour.

It's $96.97 a minute.

It's insane.
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Another thought:

The Mega Millions jackpot is currently sitting at about $619 million. If you took the annuity (thoguhts aside), you'd be getting just over $20.5 million a year for 30 years (before taxes, of course...we are comparing this with the Soto contract).

He'll be getting $51MM per year for 15 years.

~egon
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Dr. Doctor said:

All I do is Nguyen said:

Mathguy64 said:

It's $139,630.39 a day.

It's $5817.93 an hour.

It's $96.97 a minute.

It's insane.
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Another thought:

The Mega Millions jackpot is currently sitting at about $619 million. If you took the annuity (thoguhts aside), you'd be getting just over $20.5 million a year for 30 years (before taxes, of course...we are comparing this with the Soto contract).

He'll be getting $51MM per year for 15 years.

~egon
Actually there's a 4-year opt out. If he doesn't take that, the salary escalates to $55 million per year for the 5th-15th years, and it becomes an $800+m deal.
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Payroll Check-In:

2025 CBT: 241 M
Estimated 2025 CBP: 228 M
We only have about 13 M to play with without going over. We will go over unless we get creative with trades (Pressly and...?), but we will be able to get back under in 2026 even with a big signing or two.

We have the following coming off the books after 2025:
  • Framber 17.5*
  • Tucker 16.0*
  • Pressly 14.0
  • Caratini 6.0
  • Montero 11.5**
  • Abreu 19.5**
  • Total: 84.5 M

*estimated arb
**outright or released

If we assume we increase Breggy's offer to 6/165 (27.5 per) then we still have around 50-60 M to play with to stay under in 2026. That could get you a stud arm or the Polar Bear. Crane would have to be willing to eat the tax money in 25 along with the draft & international repercussions.

Could you imagine how stacked 25 would feel if we ran out a lineup of:
  • Altuve
  • Alvarez
  • Alonso
  • Tucker
  • Bregman
  • Diaz
  • Pena
  • McCormick
  • Meyers

Or Take Pete out and then your rotation is:
  • Framber
  • Fried
  • Brown
  • Blanco
  • Spaghetti / McCullers
  • Javier in the 2nd half.

No reason we wouldn't be the favorite to win the AL. This is why I am against moving Framber and Tucker. We have a shot to get back to the WS in 25. We're been spoiled but those don't come around often.
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It always looks good on paper….
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Hornbeck said:

It always looks good on paper….
And the results usually turn out pretty good too.
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Bregman and Alonso is the dream. I think we need 2 bats at minimum. 5-9 spots just killed our offense last year
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I would prefer to not see Chaz or Meyers in an Astros uniform again.
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EABC_AG said:

Bregman and Alonso is the dream. I think we need 2 bats at minimum. 5-9 spots just killed our offense last year
It's funny you say that because we got **** production from the 4-5 spot, but had killer production from the 6th spot. It was more like 7, 8, and 9 were middle of the pack.

1 - 126 wRC+ (6th in MLB)
2 - 136 (4th)
3 - 158 (2nd)
4 - 92 (23rd)
5 - 104 (13th)
6 - 126 (2nd)
7 - 85 (20th)
8 - 86 (15th)
9 - 81 (13th)
PH - 121 (3rd) - good job, Joe.
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Wabs said:

I would prefer to not see Chaz or Meyers in an Astros uniform again

I would prefer to get fluffed nightly by a rotation of Kate Upton, Alicia Viklander and Dillion Harper but I think we will both be disappointed.

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at this point...it looks like Dana's plan is to run it back with same dreadful bottom half of the lineup
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Dana is just as handcuffed as he's always been unfortunately. It's a ****ty situation.
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Mathguy64 said:

Wabs said:

I would prefer to not see Chaz or Meyers in an Astros uniform again

I would prefer to get fluffed nightly by a rotation of Kate Upton, Alicia Viklander and Dillion Harper but I think we will both be disappointed.


What?? You didn't include Kate Beckinsale?
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texasaggie2015 said:

Dana is just as handcuffed as he's always been unfortunately. It's a ****ty situation.
I think he is "handcuffed" and in a bad situation if he (and Crane) are focusing more on 2025 than on 2026 and beyond. We have some valuable pieces that we could use to "reset" with good, young (controllable) talent. If that is not in the plan and we're sticking with "run it back" in 2025, then we'll run right back to where we ended last season. Just my opinion.
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Wabs said:

Mathguy64 said:

Wabs said:

I would prefer to not see Chaz or Meyers in an Astros uniform again

I would prefer to get fluffed nightly by a rotation of Kate Upton, Alicia Viklander and Dillion Harper but I think we will both be disappointed.


What?? You didn't include Kate Beckinsale?
I'll see if I can work her in my already crowded schedule.
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I mean handcuffed as in he doesn't have free reign to do his job the way the vast majority of GMs would be able to do
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texasaggie2015 said:

I mean handcuffed as in he doesn't have free reign to do his job the way the vast majority of GMs would be able to do
Well that's very unfortunate then...
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Mathguy64 said:

Wabs said:

I would prefer to not see Chaz or Meyers in an Astros uniform again

I would prefer to get fluffed nightly by a rotation of Kate Upton, Alicia Viklander and Dillion Harper but I think we will both be disappointed.




What's this about handcuffs, Kates and rotations?

~egon
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texasaggie2015 said:

I mean handcuffed as in he doesn't have free reign to do his job the way the vast majority of GMs would be able to do
freaking Jeff Bagwell...
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Dr. Doctor said:

Mathguy64 said:

Wabs said:

I would prefer to not see Chaz or Meyers in an Astros uniform again

I would prefer to get fluffed nightly by a rotation of Kate Upton, Alicia Viklander and Dillion Harper but I think we will both be disappointed.




What's this about handcuffs, Kates and rotations?

~egon
Who said anything about handcuffs?
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Who are these people? They sound made up. Need some photographic evidence.
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