***** 2024 Houston Astros Season Thread ***** [Staff Warning]

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Another choke to the mermen
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What a waste of a HB start.
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Astros gotta start firing people
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BadAggie said:

Why bring back Abreu for the Seattle series instead of Oakland or say the next homestand?

Dude has caused one loss and likely another in his first two games back

Also why immediately start him upon return?


Why pitch Ronell versus Oakland? Lots of whys this season with very little clear rationale.
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CFTXAG10 said:

Beau Holder said:

One among a million other ways you know the Astros organization we knew from 2017-2022 is gone is the fact that a 1-2-3 ninth is the most predictable outcome after this meltdown.


Winner.

Wish I could even say I was clever, it was just painfully obvious. This team has been run into the ground and they don't change a single approach and they aren't even playing for pride.
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I was just about to ask how long Espada's leash is
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This may be the most inept FO + Owner + Manager combo in all of pro sports at the moment. Crane and Brown are embarrassing themselves
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The Abreu double start is an absolutely head scratcher that makes no ****ing sense what so ever. It's pretty incredible when he leaves the wins start piling up. Comes back and the team sucks again.
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Baseball Is Life
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BadAggie said:

Why bring back Abreu for the Seattle series instead of Oakland or say the next homestand?

Dude has caused one loss and likely another in his first two games back

Also why immediately start him upon return?



This team is mismanaged. You can see it, and the players can, too. Every roster move is a **** up. Think how the players truly feel. It's hard to perform without having multiple Corky's (owner, GM, manger, etc.) running this team, and when you, as a player, are probably questioning every move as well.
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The Porkchop Express said:

Abreu apologists please remember these 2 games for a long time


Are there any Abreu apologists?
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This team just looks lost, as people have said there's definitely no vocal leader in that clubhouse and you would expect the manager to at least step up and have his players back but not even that. Like I said we are definitely seeing why Espada hasn't been a manager before, this team has too much talent to be playing like this. Something is going on in that clubhouse that is not being addressed and from the looks of it nobody will.
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Aggie8587 said:

This may be the most inept FO + Owner + Manager combo in all of pro sports at the moment. Crane and Brown are embarrassing themselves

And coach.

We are truly playing STUPID baseball. The Lunhow era is over. We can have all the talent in the world and we can't outplay STUPID.

YAY!


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AustinAg2K said:

The Porkchop Express said:

Abreu apologists please remember these 2 games for a long time


Are there any Abreu apologists?
Haven't seen him in a couple of days.
Life is better with a beagle
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W said:

Astros gotta start firing people

Can't fire the guy who let Click go after winning a title, sadly.

But they can go ahead and fire Espada if he was the one really making the call to throw Abreu right back in the lineup AND ON THE FIELD two nights in a row.
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Maybe we are trying to get those 40 at bats done as quickly as possible? Can we start the countdown?
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BadAggie said:

Why bring back Abreu for the Seattle series instead of Oakland or say the next homestand?

Dude has caused one loss and likely another in his first two games back

Also why immediately start him upon return?


because this was all pre-scripted...

when Abreu allegedly "agreed" to go to West Palm Beach

I think the terms were dictated to the Astros how this was going to go

or he would have refused the demotion and forced the DFA
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You forgot "numb-nuts special adviser", but I see where you're going with this, and I support it.
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The problem is, and I've said this before, I think the front office has no problem keeping Espada around because they wanted a puppet they could push around and make do whatever they want after the tension with Dusty. I fear Espada will stay around and will take the punches for all the stupid front office decisions because he's too pacifist to make a stand for himself
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W said:

Astros gotta start firing people


No fire. At all. This team is a reflection of its manager. Espada doesn't fight for his guys or this team. It's evident. He should have gotten himself tossed after that bull**** with Pena and the fair/foul ball. Why fight for a manager that won't fight for you?
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Is the org smart enough to know they can't play Abreu in the lineup at home this weekend? That man is going to be boo'd into oblivion
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W said:

BadAggie said:

Why bring back Abreu for the Seattle series instead of Oakland or say the next homestand?

Dude has caused one loss and likely another in his first two games back

Also why immediately start him upon return?


because this was all pre-scripted...

when Abreu allegedly "agreed" to go to West Palm Beach

I think the terms were dictated to the Astros how this was going to go

or he would have refused the demotion and forced the DFA


It seems to me he's still trying to force a DFA.
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agproducer said:

W said:

Astros gotta start firing people


No fire. At all. This team is a reflection of its manager. Espada doesn't fight for his guys or this team. It's evident. He should have gotten himself tossed after that bull**** with Pena and the fair/foul ball. Why fight for a manager that won't fight for you?


Perfect example of "Attitude Reflects Leadership"
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CFTXAG10 said:

Is the org smart enough to know they can't play Abreu in the lineup at home this weekend? That man is going to be boo'd into oblivion

They weren't smart enough to not play him in the most important series of the year that likely cost us 2 games

So no, they are not smart. They're ****ing dumb as ****
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W said:

BadAggie said:

Why bring back Abreu for the Seattle series instead of Oakland or say the next homestand?

Dude has caused one loss and likely another in his first two games back

Also why immediately start him upon return?


because this was all pre-scripted...

when Abreu allegedly "agreed" to go to West Palm Beach

I think the terms were dictated to the Astros how this was going to go

or he would have refused the demotion and forced the DFA


That's a major red flag if someone else is dictating who' is starting games and when !
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The D said:

W said:

BadAggie said:

Why bring back Abreu for the Seattle series instead of Oakland or say the next homestand?

Dude has caused one loss and likely another in his first two games back

Also why immediately start him upon return?


because this was all pre-scripted...

when Abreu allegedly "agreed" to go to West Palm Beach

I think the terms were dictated to the Astros how this was going to go

or he would have refused the demotion and forced the DFA


That's a major red flag if someone else is dictating who' is starting games and when !

HEY! But you know. ABREU IS TRULY EMBARRASSED FOR HIS PERFORMANCE!

**** getting his swing right....can he ****ing catch a ball at 1B?!!?!?!?
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W said:

BadAggie said:

Why bring back Abreu for the Seattle series instead of Oakland or say the next homestand?

Dude has caused one loss and likely another in his first two games back

Also why immediately start him upon return?


because this was all pre-scripted...

when Abreu allegedly "agreed" to go to West Palm Beach

I think the terms were dictated to the Astros how this was going to go

or he would have refused the demotion and forced the DFA
If Abreu and his manager really have the team by the short hairs, the FO is even more incompetent than any of us can imagine. Script the down, script the up, sure I can buy that based on what's been reported here. No way the first 2 starts vs the division leader after making up tremendous ground is a non-negotiable part of that deal.

If Espada isn't writing the lineup card, he should throw an absolute fit with the media. Might get him fired but so is this kind of performance. If he is writing the lineup card, fire him anyway.
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I'm hoping Abreu does well. I'd love to see him turn it around, and I'll cheer for him.... BUT he needs to do it with a different team.

More fuel to the fire:

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Maroon&Fight said:

The problem is, and I've said this before, I think the front office has no problem keeping Espada around because they wanted a puppet they could push around and make do whatever they want after the tension with Dusty. I fear Espada will stay around and will take the punches for all the stupid front office decisions because he's too pacifist to make a stand for himself

Espada is a pu $$ Y! He won't stick for his team for some BS calls, that would have had Dusty ****ting his Depends over. 100%, Espada/Brown are yes men, pushovers and just what Crane wants in place. And you wonder why the players aren't performing? They have beta men "leading" them and they aren't buying into this.
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Abreu sucks. Espada sucks too.
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agproducer said:

I'm hoping Abreu does well. I'd love to see him turn it around, and I'll cheer for him.... BUT he needs to do it with a different team.

More fuel to the fire:



So, in other words, another prototypical and sloppy loss for the Astros in 2024 that do not seem to give a *****
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that's why I wonder about the players union involvement in this

you never see a 10-year veteran star player demoted / optioned to the minors

the team is supposed to DFA him and eat the salary

what a strange situation all around
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Crane and Baggy have their pride to think about, have you considered that!?
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He doesn't have to play if he's on the roster. He can sit over there next to .330 avg Dubon.
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