***** 2024 Houston Astros Season Thread ***** [Staff Warning]

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1:21p, 9/12/24
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Already one error. We have to be close to the league leader right?
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In reply to SpaceCityAg05 • 1:21p, 9/12/24
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SpaceCityAg05 said:
While they would never do it, that isn't much different than when pitchers used to bat. They would often be sent to the plate with the instruction to not swing, which made it all the funnier when occasionally a wild pitcher would walk his counterpart instead of obtain the essentially free strikeout.

But yeah, a position player might take it a bit more personally than a pitcher!
Probably not terribly different from putting your defensive SS or C hitting well below the Mendoza line in the 9 spot behind the pitcher. Not exactly a glaring endorsement of your confidence in the hitter, but there was also some logic behind it by potentially putting somebody who could run on base ahead of the top of the order.
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1:22p, 9/12/24
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24 pitch first for Framber
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In reply to jkag89 • 1:22p, 9/12/24
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jkag89 said:
txags92 said:
Farmer1906 said:
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Marvin said:
Kessinger?! Just play with 8 and take the out. At least it won't cost you a GIDP from that worthless toothpick of a bat.
So that brings up a question. With our proficiency at GIDP, if teams are allowed to intentionally walk hitters, hypothetically, could a team take a ghost out to skip a batter that is more likely to GIDP than to get a hit and RBI? Not sure any skipper would ever be brave enough (or stupid enough based on how it would likely impact the skipped player's mentality) to do it, but I have to think the analytics might suggest it might be the better option with some of our guys at the bottom of the lineup.
Is this a real question?
Not really. More of a thought exercise about what the analytics would say if it were a real option.
Wouldn't it be better to just tell the hitter not to swing the bat and at least possibly still draw a BB?
Not sure some of our guys could be counted on not to swing if they saw one of those sweet looking sliders in the other batter's box.
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1:22p, 9/12/24
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25 pitches for Framber in the 1st inning
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In reply to Ags #1 • 1:23p, 9/12/24
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Ags #1 said:
Already one error. We have to be close to the league leader right?
In errors? No, we are one of the best. But errors are rarely the best way to judge a team's defense.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:24p, 9/12/24
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Good point. Which metrics are?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:24p, 9/12/24
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Farmer1906 said:
Ags #1 said:
Already one error. We have to be close to the league leader right?
In errors? No, we are one of the best. But errors are rarely the best way to judge a team's defense.


I looked it up earlier this week. Still better than league average.
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In reply to txags92 • 1:27p, 9/12/24
txags92 said:
jkag89 said:
txags92 said:
Farmer1906 said:
txags92 said:
Marvin said:
Kessinger?! Just play with 8 and take the out. At least it won't cost you a GIDP from that worthless toothpick of a bat.
So that brings up a question. With our proficiency at GIDP, if teams are allowed to intentionally walk hitters, hypothetically, could a team take a ghost out to skip a batter that is more likely to GIDP than to get a hit and RBI? Not sure any skipper would ever be brave enough (or stupid enough based on how it would likely impact the skipped player's mentality) to do it, but I have to think the analytics might suggest it might be the better option with some of our guys at the bottom of the lineup.
Is this a real question?
Not really. More of a thought exercise about what the analytics would say if it were a real option.
Wouldn't it be better to just tell the hitter not to swing the bat and at least possibly still draw a BB?
Not sure some of our guys could be counted on not to swing if they saw one of those sweet looking sliders in the other batter's box.
Fair point.
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1:33p, 9/12/24
Quick Top of the 2nd helps with the pitch count.
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1:36p, 9/12/24
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What was that second called strike to Pena?! MLB shows that as maybe worst miss of the season bad....

Nevermind, they updated it to swinging strike. Showed called strike live.
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1:39p, 9/12/24
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Hey, hey, Hayward
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1:39p, 9/12/24
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BOOM!
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1:39p, 9/12/24
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JUST WHEN I THINK YOU CANT BE MORE WASHED UP YOU G ONAND DO SOMETHING LIKE THAt…..


AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 1:39p, 9/12/24
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Heyward is about to get a lot of PT with Chas being out.

Hate to say it but he doesn't have it. His bat looks like he's swinging in water instead of air it's so slow.

I would be playing Gamel every day until Tucker can play in the field.
Stick to Algebra!
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1:40p, 9/12/24
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That was fun.
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In reply to Ags #1 • 1:42p, 9/12/24
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Ags #1 said:
24 pitch first for Framber
The A's hitting coach takes the exact opposite approach of the Astros'. They don't swing at anything.
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1:43p, 9/12/24
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The Kessinger callup puts him getting a hit this year back in play on Astros' bingo. 3 people picked that.
The A's having a chance to sweep today is also a live square.
As is the White Sox edging closer to 121 wins.
A photo finish in the inaugural year of Astros bingo is nigh.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 1:43p, 9/12/24
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The Porkchop Express said:
Mathguy64 said:
Heyward is about to get a lot of PT with Chas being out.

Hate to say it but he doesn't have it. His bat looks like he's swinging in water instead of air it's so slow.

I would be playing Gamel every day until Tucker can play in the field.
Stick to Algebra!
I'm not watching. Its test day today. What did Jason do? Run into one?
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 1:43p, 9/12/24
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Mathguy64 said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Mathguy64 said:
Heyward is about to get a lot of PT with Chas being out.

Hate to say it but he doesn't have it. His bat looks like he's swinging in water instead of air it's so slow.

I would be playing Gamel every day until Tucker can play in the field.
Stick to Algebra!
I'm not watching. Its test day today. What did Jason do? Run into one?
2 run bomb
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 1:45p, 9/12/24
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The Porkchop Express said:
Mathguy64 said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Mathguy64 said:
Heyward is about to get a lot of PT with Chas being out.

Hate to say it but he doesn't have it. His bat looks like he's swinging in water instead of air it's so slow.

I would be playing Gamel every day until Tucker can play in the field.
Stick to Algebra!
I'm not watching. Its test day today. What did Jason do? Run into one?
2 run bomb
Blind squirrel meet nut.
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In reply to Ags #1 • 1:45p, 9/12/24
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Ags #1 said:
Good point. Which metrics are?

OAA
1. Blue Jays - 29
4. Astros - 14
30. Athletics - (-23)

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/outs_above_average?type=Fielding_Team&startYear=2024&endYear=2024&split=yes&team=&range=year&min=q&pos=of&roles=&viz=show

DEF (defensive WAR)
1. Royals - 37.4
12. Astros - 2.7
30. White Sox - (-39.6)

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&team=0%2Cts&sortcol=21&sortdir=default&pagenum=1

FRV
1. Blue Jays - 40
19. Astros - (-4)
30. White Sox - (-48)
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1:58p, 9/12/24
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How did Yainer not score there?
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1:58p, 9/12/24
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Tuck almost got one out to right. Double, and 2 on for Pena
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1:59p, 9/12/24
I don't know if he would've scored but he didn't help himself rounding second.
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In reply to Wabs • 1:59p, 9/12/24
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How did Yainer not score there?


He slowed down to look over his shoulder after rounding second. Terrible fundamentals, and it cost the Astros with Taqueria Arandas choking away another RISP chance.
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In reply to Twisted Helix • 2:00p, 9/12/24
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Twisted Helix said:
I don't know if he would've scored but he didn't help himself rounding second.
Pettis apparently wasn't giving him any signal. Cost a run.
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In reply to Marvin • 2:00p, 9/12/24
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Marvin said:
Wabs said:
How did Yainer not score there?


He slowed down to look over his shoulder after rounding second. Terrible fundamentals, and it cost the Astros with Taqueria Arandas choking away another RISP chance.
I just spilt coffee all over my exams.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:04p, 9/12/24
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Thanks! Better than I would have thought
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2:07p, 9/12/24
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I'm so old and tired I just thought that Phil Nevin had signed with the A's
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2:09p, 9/12/24
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68 pitches thru 4th
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2:10p, 9/12/24
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Double double for big John
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2:11p, 9/12/24
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Let Jake try to bunt?
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2:11p, 9/12/24
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We bunted!!!!
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2:11p, 9/12/24
we bunted
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