***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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4:16p, 1/19/24
With Maldy and Dusty gone Mike has turned his sights on Jake and JP.

We had one of the greatest lineups ever in 2019 and barely got out of the ALDS.
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4:16p, 1/19/24
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You can never have enough pitching in the postseason

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In reply to Farmer1906 • 4:17p, 1/19/24
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Farmer1906 said:
texasaggie2015 said:
I just don't understand how someone can react to signing the best reliever in baseball with "BUT OUR 9 HOLE HITTER ISN'T AN ALL STAR"
Some Twitter dork suggested we trade CJ Stroud a week or so back. As long as there are idiots there will be idiot takes.
that twitter dork is doing engagement bait. there's no monetary gain to outrageously stupid takes on texags.

well crap. looks like the stupid take was another twitter dork.
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4:33p, 1/19/24
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If Neris is at 2 years $22 mil then bring him back even now with Hader

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4:36p, 1/19/24
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2 lefties even
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In reply to BadAggie • 4:36p, 1/19/24
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BadAggie said:
If Neris is at 2 years $22 mil then bring him back even now with Hader

i heard yesterday that the market for Neris is in the range of 3 years $35mm. likely a ranger or a stank at this point.
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4:38p, 1/19/24
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Well this offseason just went from good to great

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4:39p, 1/19/24
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Hard to name a better pen than we have with our 7-8-9 inning punch
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4:40p, 1/19/24
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Julia has a workout vid with a butt massage in yoga pants on IG and we signed Josh Hader. What. A. Day.
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4:40p, 1/19/24
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I wouldn't hate it if we now signed either Maton or Matt Moore. Wouldn't hate it one bit.
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In reply to Project Gemini • 4:41p, 1/19/24
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Project Gemini said:
Julia has a workout vid with a butt massage in yoga pants on IG and we signed Josh Hader. What. A. Day.


Rule 1 man
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In reply to BadAggie • 4:43p, 1/19/24
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BadAggie said:
Project Gemini said:
Julia has a workout vid with a butt massage in yoga pants on IG and we signed Josh Hader. What. A. Day.


Rule 1 man


https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2SwspQprn_/?igsh=MTVha2hjNHR6d2lwMA==
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4:45p, 1/19/24
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Jim Crane stepping up
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4:47p, 1/19/24
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Some wild Hader stats:

  • In 9 different months in his career, he didn't give up a single ER.
  • Only 7 months in his career has he had an ERA over 4. For comparison, Pressly (since 2017, same timeframe), has had 13.
  • The Astros have 17 seasons where a reliever had a 2+ WAR. Wagner had 4, Lidge & Dotel had 2, and no one else had more than 1. Hader has had 3 in his career already.
  • Hader's 42.2% career K% is the highest all time. Chapman & Diaz are the only others to top 40% at 40.3% each.
  • Even with 10.2% BB%, his K-BB% is also #1 all-time.
  • .155 BA against is also #1 all time.
  • Since 2017 he is #4 in saves. He's tied in 2nd in Saves+Holds since he wasn't a closer off the jump.
  • Since 2019 he is #1 in saves.
  • He's been in All-Star (5x) every year except 2017 (came up in June) & 2020 (no ASG)
  • 3x All MLB 1st Team
  • 3x Hoffman Reliever of the Year (NL)
  • The pitcher baseball reference says he's most similar to by age is Billy Wagner.
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In reply to BadAggie • 4:49p, 1/19/24
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BadAggie said:
If Neris is at 2 years $22 mil then bring him back even now with Hader

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In reply to BadAggie • 4:54p, 1/19/24
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BadAggie said:



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In reply to Farmer1906 • 4:54p, 1/19/24
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Farmer1906 said:

  • The pitcher baseball reference says he's most similar to by age is future HOFer Billy Wagner.
    • FIFY
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    4:56p, 1/19/24
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    I'm not complaining especially because I'm not sure there were better moves available. But how many games did the pen lose last year vs. how many did we never lead in? I feel like the latter is a much bigger number, but could be wrong
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    In reply to Project Gemini • 5:05p, 1/19/24
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    Project Gemini said:
    BadAggie said:
    Project Gemini said:
    Julia has a workout vid with a butt massage in yoga pants on IG and we signed Josh Hader. What. A. Day.


    Rule 1 man


    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2SwspQprn_/?igsh=MTVha2hjNHR6d2lwMA==
    Those ripples...
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    In reply to SeanDaAg2005 • 5:07p, 1/19/24
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    I don't know how to find that out, exactly but we were tied with 4 teams with the 3rd fewest blown saves. 6th in ERA, 17th in FIP, 14th in xFIP, 7th in SIERA, & 18th in WAR. I'd argue it was very good, not great. But we're losing 4 key pieces. We didn't NEED Hader but we did need serious BP help.

    Another way to look at it. Our stats the 3rd and 4th time thru the order. 5.98 ERA (16th), .349 wOBA (24th), and games (1st). Maybe we'll trust the bullpen and goto them sooner instead of riding starters like Dusty did.
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    5:08p, 1/19/24
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    Yoga pants… hats off to the man/woman who invented those
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    5:12p, 1/19/24
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    To me, this helps our starters more that being said. Knowing you have 3 good relievers plus the potential of montero allows them to not have to go as deep in the games and cut innings effectively.
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    5:30p, 1/19/24
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    it's baseless rumor szn
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    5:31p, 1/19/24
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    5:32p, 1/19/24
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    5:35p, 1/19/24
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    5:43p, 1/19/24
    Depending on how this first half goes, I could even see Montero becoming trade bait.
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    In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 5:47p, 1/19/24
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    EastCoastAgNc said:



    That sounds... mature. Hope it works out for him and the team.
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    In reply to SeanDaAg2005 • 6:04p, 1/19/24
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    SeanDaAg2005 said:
    I'm not complaining especially because I'm not sure there were better moves available. But how many games did the pen lose last year vs. how many did we never lead in? I feel like the latter is a much bigger number, but could be wrong


    True but 'we' were constantly keeping 2 of our best hitters on the bench, so hopefully that your extra offense in 24
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    In reply to Marvin • 6:05p, 1/19/24
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    If he comes out in like the 5th and 6th throwing filthy stuff...
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    In reply to texasaggie2015 • 6:05p, 1/19/24
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    yes, Meyers in the 9-hole is fine

    and this season it will finally be open for him as needed
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    6:10p, 1/19/24
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    Is it possible that Melton passes Meyers during spring training?
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    6:46p, 1/19/24
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    In regards to Wagner. Sorry if i missed it. But he goes in as an Astros right??
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    6:50p, 1/19/24
    I have to agree with some posters here that I am not too worried about our bats. IF ABreu can come back to form, along with Pena we will be just fine.
    No matter what!
    Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
    I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
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