That is fair…doesn't seem like Abreu's personality, but you might be right.
MelvinUdall said:
No way, in an ALCS, was that intentional, that isn't even good baseball to do that…in May, sure, not game 5 of the ALCS down 2 runs and a runner on first. Believing that it was intentional, is asinine.
MelvinUdall said:
That is fair…doesn't seem like Abreu's personality, but you might be right.
MrCoachEricTaylor said:MelvinUdall said:
No way, in an ALCS, was that intentional, that isn't even good baseball to do that…in May, sure, not game 5 of the ALCS down 2 runs and a runner on first. Believing that it was intentional, is asinine.
I mean lots of Astro fans have already said the game was pretty much over when it happened. If you're a player for a team and the game is "out of reach", that's when you'd do it, right?
MrCoachEricTaylor said:MelvinUdall said:
No way, in an ALCS, was that intentional, that isn't even good baseball to do that…in May, sure, not game 5 of the ALCS down 2 runs and a runner on first. Believing that it was intentional, is asinine.
I mean lots of Astro fans have already said the game was pretty much over when it happened. If you're a player for a team and the game is "out of reach", that's when you'd do it, right?
Fuzzy Dunlop said:MelvinUdall said:
That is fair…doesn't seem like Abreu's personality, but you might be right.
I don't know his personality but the announcers, while defending him, said Garcia was likely his last batter to face anyway so why not go inside?
Hell, we knocked down Altuve with some chin music last night. Garcia has to take the hit and move along to first. Let the manager make the case for the ejection if needed.
JohnnyTexAg1995 said:
I hope this is the thread for it, but I'm curious what a rangers calm perspective is on the HBP and Ejecting Abreu for it. Cause in the hubub of Altuves home run leclercs first pitch to Dubon nearly took his head off and the umpires didn't say or do anything. I thought that was curious imo
MelvinUdall said:MrCoachEricTaylor said:MelvinUdall said:
No way, in an ALCS, was that intentional, that isn't even good baseball to do that…in May, sure, not game 5 of the ALCS down 2 runs and a runner on first. Believing that it was intentional, is asinine.
I mean lots of Astro fans have already said the game was pretty much over when it happened. If you're a player for a team and the game is "out of reach", that's when you'd do it, right?
The difference between a fan and a player and their feeling on the outcome of a game is light years of distance. Remember the Astros have been in a lot of these situations and I can't believe they were sitting there and saying to themselves, "Well, we will just get two at home", that just isn't reality.
He likely thought Maldy called the hit on him.TXAG 05 said:
I don't get why Garcia was going after Maldy. You'd think he would charge the guy that threw the ball, not the guy trying to catch it.
Mr Gigem said:JohnnyTexAg1995 said:
I hope this is the thread for it, but I'm curious what a rangers calm perspective is on the HBP and Ejecting Abreu for it. Cause in the hubub of Altuves home run leclercs first pitch to Dubon nearly took his head off and the umpires didn't say or do anything. I thought that was curious imo
Hard to tell. Usually when you intentionally throw at someone, you don't throw that high. Usually aim for butt or lower back. Given the situation, it makes no sense.
Having said that, Abreu walked the first guy he faced, and then the next batter was someone who pimped the **** out of a HR earlier. So would not surprise if there was some bad blood
MelvinUdall said:
Yeah, who knows at the end of the day if it was truly intentional and yes, when it was all said and done, it was best to throw them both out.
MelvinUdall said:
Yeah, who knows at the end of the day if it was truly intentional and yes, when it was all said and done, it was best to throw them both out.
CoachRTM said:
While some of us are going to be disappointed by Sunday or Monday…. we can all take solace that A&M football won't lose this weekend.
Yes there are several on the various threads.MooreTrucker said:
Are there thoughts that the long delay over whether to toss them could have chilled the Rangers (and Leclerc) to allow that 9th inning turnaround?
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There is zero chance the Astros players thought this game was out of reach, I mean zero.Daddy-O5 said:MrCoachEricTaylor said:MelvinUdall said:
No way, in an ALCS, was that intentional, that isn't even good baseball to do that…in May, sure, not game 5 of the ALCS down 2 runs and a runner on first. Believing that it was intentional, is asinine.
I mean lots of Astro fans have already said the game was pretty much over when it happened. If you're a player for a team and the game is "out of reach", that's when you'd do it, right?
No way anyone on a professional baseball team considered that game "out of reach". Not one.
bearkatag15 said:He likely thought Maldy called the hit on him.TXAG 05 said:
I don't get why Garcia was going after Maldy. You'd think he would charge the guy that threw the ball, not the guy trying to catch it.
AustinAg2K said:bearkatag15 said:He likely thought Maldy called the hit on him.TXAG 05 said:
I don't get why Garcia was going after Maldy. You'd think he would charge the guy that threw the ball, not the guy trying to catch it.
Maldy likely called the hit. The pitchers don't do anything without getting permission from Maldy first. He's a cold ass gangster.
Agreed, and no one thought this one wasn't going at least 6 games.West Roxbury said:
Whoever wins this series will have won an epic series and, while I hope the Astros come out on the winning side, I can appreciate the competitive nature of this series. It's been a fun and intense series.
MooreTrucker said:
I hate bat flips and I hate everything about what Garcia did when he hit that HR. Just trot around the bases and don't act like a fool.
FIFYLincolnBorglum79 said:
As others have pointed out, the Rangersthrew athit Yordon and threw at him up high, and threw at Altuve and Dubon during this series without a single warning or outburst. Garcia was entirely to blame for his stupid outburst. The Rangers should have gone to another pitcher after the long delay but they don't have anyone I guess.
If that game had instead gone to extra innings the Astros still had a bullpen full of effective pitchers and the Rangers had nothing left.
Reminds me of that Bluejay that Rougie popped.htxag09 said:MooreTrucker said:
I hate bat flips and I hate everything about what Garcia did when he hit that HR. Just trot around the bases and don't act like a fool.
First, I absolutely prefer the way altuve handles business. But I still don't have issue with Garcia's, really. It was a huge situation. But, he's a ****** and that's basically how he handles every homerun. Don't think I've ever seen a "normal" hr trot out of him.