****AL West (Astros & Rangers) Genuine -- and Civil -- Discussion Thread****

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Roof will be closed.
Chamber of Commerce Fall weather in Arlington today. Again why does either team actually have retractable roof?
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jkag89 said:

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Roof will be closed.
Chamber of Commerce Fall weather in Arlington today. Again why does either team actually have retractable roof?
Because it's nice to use two games per season. But only in April, of course. At least that's the rule at MMP.
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512Ag said:

jkag89 said:

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Roof will be closed.
Chamber of Commerce Fall weather in Arlington today. Again why does either team actually have retractable roof?
Because it's nice to use two games per season. But only in April, of course. At least that's the rule at MMP.
I don't remember every series and every game. But I feel like it's open for at least one playoff game just about every year.....

I mean Houston's just too hot to ever open it before October, which means it'd only be early season or playoffs. When playoffs, MLB decides.

Also, a big part of it is being able to properly grow grass. So it's open just about every day when there isn't a game.

Same can't be said for the carpet the Rangers have.....
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If that's the price for having grass at Minute Maid, I'll take it.
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512Ag said:

If that's the price for having grass at Minute Maid, I'll take it.


After watching y'all play at home and up here, maybe you'd be wise to consider changing…it's not as if artificial grass is really hurting your team.
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I know this is the civil thread… so I intend this to be as civil as possible… but watching a game on at Globe Life on TV feels like you're watching a game in Japan.
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https://www.ballparksavvy.com/comparisons/


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MLB Baseball Park Dimensions and facts … there are 7 retractable roof stadiums, both the Astros and Rangers have them.

The majority ( 25 of 30) of MLB baseball stadiums have some form of real grass. The Rangers play on artificial turf and the Astros have a natural grass field.

Globe Life field cost $1.1 billion to build

MinuteMaid Park cost $250 million to build
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Legal Custodian said:

And another random question, how often do balls hit the roof? Didn't really affect the game cause Semien ended up striking out or something but I'm not sure I've seen that happen outside of Tropicana. Was that ever an issue at the Astrodome?


I don't remember a ball ever hitting the roof in the dome but Mike Schmidt hit the speaker hanging over CF once. After that they raised that one speaker so it hung about 50 ft above the rest.
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Great series so far. & baseball should be played on grass
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
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Semien led off all 162 games and I believe every postseason game. He has a .469 OPS (lower in the CS) in 42 PA. Any chance he gets moved down?

Edit: nevermind. I see the lineup has been posted.
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No. He's leading off again today
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Garver and Heim were moved to 8-9. Taveras moved up to 5
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Big game today ladies and gentlemen.. who ever wins today will be in the drivers seat when the games go back to Houston. Good luck Rangers .. the Astros will give it our best shot today and I know the Rangers will as well. This has turned out to be a tough series just as many predicted

Let me add one thing … I would take an Aggie Football National Championship win over any of this … I'm a pro sports fan but if the Aggies could win a NC .. it would do it for me over any of the pro sports teams !
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Had Taveras hit there at all this season? I thought he was mostly double leadoff for yall.
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I don't recall. He's mostly been 8 or 9 all season. He's been seeing the ball this series, so this move doesn't surprise me
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Looks like he only batted 5th one time, on 8/9:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TEX/2023-batting-orders.shtml

He batted 6-7 a handful of times each, but has predominantly been 8 or 9.
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Astros fan here…curious did any rangers fans want them to walk..if not walk then pitch around Altuve?
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That might be the best game I've ever been to, regardless of outcome. Wow
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Anyone on either side that thinks this series is over has a lot to learn about baseball.. game 6 is on Sunday, no home team has won a game yet, Astros have played terrible at home this year … this is a Texas shootout so far. Rangers have Evaldi pitching and Astros have Framber …. We have seen this matchup already… this is why they play the games.. see y'all on Sunday
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512Ag said:

If that's the price for having grass at Minute Maid, I'll take it.

Serious question: Does anyone know why the Rangers spent a billion dollars to build a retractable roof stadium, only to put plastic grass in it?
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[If you can't read the title of the thread you can't post on the thread. -Staff]
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[Same message. -Staff]
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Civil thread dudes. You want to smack talk, go to the trash thread.
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Mr Gigem said:

That might be the best game I've ever been to, regardless of outcome. Wow
2017 WS game 5 is the craziest most amazing game I have seen. This one is now #2. The back and forth, the full on insanity in B8 and then the end.

Just amazing baseball.
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Mathguy64 said:

Mr Gigem said:

That might be the best game I've ever been to, regardless of outcome. Wow
2017 WS game 5 is the craziest most amazing game I have seen. This one is now #2. The back and forth, the full on insanity in B8 and then the end.

Just amazing baseball.
Game 6, 2019 ALCS. Altuve walks off the Yankees to send the Stros to the series.
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Amazing to watch on TV also.

Ranger fans shouldn't give up hope. Pujols ripped out Astros fans hearts in 2005 at Minute Maid in game 5, then Oswalt shut down Cards in game 6

Rangers have the guy they want on the mound to try the same. Hope he doesn't.
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Mathguy64 said:

Mr Gigem said:

That might be the best game I've ever been to, regardless of outcome. Wow
2017 WS game 5 is the craziest most amazing game I have seen. This one is now #2. The back and forth, the full on insanity in B8 and then the end.

Just amazing baseball.

I agree with this. Game 5 was nuts. This game was over until Garcia did what he did...thanks Arlington
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I hope this is the thread for it, but I'm curious what a rangers calm perspective is on the HBP and Ejecting Abreu for it. Cause in the hubub of Altuves home run leclercs first pitch to Dubon nearly took his head off and the umpires didn't say or do anything. I thought that was curious imo
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The Dubon one wasn't that close
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texasaggie2015 said:

The Dubon one wasn't that close
idk it was further up and in than Garcias he just got out of the way

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JohnnyTexAg1995 said:

I hope this is the thread for it, but I'm curious what a rangers calm perspective is on the HBP and Ejecting Abreu for it. Cause in the hubub of Altuves home run leclercs first pitch to Dubon nearly took his head off and the umpires didn't say or do anything. I thought that was curious imo


I don't think it was intentional. I do think they were trying to brush him back. That situation is not one in which you hit the guy that pimped a homerun his last AB. But, in Garcia's defense, the heat of the moment got the best of him and it's not like it didn't happen before. Abreu looked like he was as having control issues and we were about to start rocking him.

The benches being cleared changed the whole game. LeClerc went cold, the Astros were like a hornets nest that got disturbed, and the Rangers were deer in the headlights.

Explain to me like I'm 5 why on a deep fly ball to left center, Josh Smith doesn't tag and get to third. Let's say he takes off and the throw from the outfield gets past the third baseman (goes in the dugout, etc) tie ball game. It's possible he gets gunned but not likely.
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Fuzzy Dunlop said:

JohnnyTexAg1995 said:

I hope this is the thread for it, but I'm curious what a rangers calm perspective is on the HBP and Ejecting Abreu for it. Cause in the hubub of Altuves home run leclercs first pitch to Dubon nearly took his head off and the umpires didn't say or do anything. I thought that was curious imo


I don't think it was intentional. I do think they were trying to brush him back. That situation is not one in which you hit the guy that pimped a homerun his last AB. But, in Garcia's defense, the heat of the moment got the best of him and it's not like it didn't happen before. Abreu looked like he was as having control issues and we were about to start rocking him.

The benches being cleared changed the whole game. LeClerc went cold, the Astros were like a hornets nest that got disturbed, and the Rangers were deer in the headlights.

Explain to me like I'm 5 why on a deep fly ball to left center, Josh Smith doesn't tag and get to third. Let's say he takes off and the throw from the outfield gets past the third baseman (goes in the dugout, etc) tie ball game. It's possible he gets gunned but not likely.
he definitely would have been easily safe if he tagged
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JohnnyTexAg1995 said:

I hope this is the thread for it, but I'm curious what a rangers calm perspective is on the HBP and Ejecting Abreu for it. Cause in the hubub of Altuves home run leclercs first pitch to Dubon nearly took his head off and the umpires didn't say or do anything. I thought that was curious imo

I mean it was clearly a product of time and place. Garcia hit a huge bomb and pimped it with all get out. He had to know he was going to at minimum get his tower buzzed next time up. But with Abreu, it was in the very first pitch of the next AB, if you're going to intentionally hit someone that's when you do it. Not on a 0-2, 2-0, 3-1, whatever count. With the totality of circumstances you can pretty much assume it's intentional. And honestly as a Rangers fan and trying to stand back without being objective, I didn't have a problem with the ejections. Abreu hit him with pretty high heat in that situation, Garcia clearly escalated the situation WAY over the top, and Dusty was defending his guy so I don't blame him at all.
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No way, in an ALCS, was that intentional, that isn't even good baseball to do that…in May, sure, not game 5 of the ALCS down 2 runs and a runner on first. Believing that it was intentional, is asinine.
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MelvinUdall said:

No way, in an ALCS, was that intentional, that isn't even good baseball to do that…in May, sure, not game 5 of the ALCS down 2 runs and a runner on first. Believing that it was intentional, is asinine.


And on the flip side of that, if it was intentional, I don't think it's on Dusty. Abreu could have just gone boneheaded and did it himself in a warped sense of payback, cause that's what teammates do. Again, not convinced it was intentional but it could have been a lapse of reason on Abreu's part.
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