AggieEP said:
Proposition Joe said:
Keeper of The Spirits said:
Proposition Joe said:
You are the only one talking WS vs CS, blue collar vs white collar, or open roof vs closed roof.
I said a weekday day game won't be as loud as a night game and you decided that would be the time to educate our fanbase on what the playoffs are like.
As someone who has been to alot of the CS games and WS games in person, not on TV with amplified sound, I am saying that game time in the CS matters much less than the other elements, I shall go back to the Astros thread! Have fun and good luck!
Oh golly gee you've been to CS and WS games in person and not just watched on TV?
Shucks, tell us rubes what it's really like?
I love how the fanbase that literally set the modern day record for lack of attendance over a 4 year period now feels the need to explain what it's like in the playoffs to a fanbase that has had 22 home playoff games in the last 13 years including 6 WS games.
Have a historical tankjob and cheating scandal and suddenly you're experts.
I want to be able to cheer for both Texas teams so bad, I grew up in Dallas and San Antonio, and as a baseball loving kid, I loved to watch the Rangers and the Astros. The killer B's were awesome and easy to root for. In college I actually had a job running the Astros radio broadcasts and became even more of an Astros fan, making them my 1b right behind the Rangers. However, whatever happened to Astros fans by going through the tanking years now has made them absolutely insufferable to deal with.
Between the incessant lecturing they give on every subject, or the downplaying of their scandal they just never shut up about how awesome they are and how everyone should want to be them. Then you peek at their game day threads and it's an orgy of anger and vitriol for their manager, half their players, other posters that don't parrot the talking points of the thread bullies, and then comes the incessant near nudes they post. I'm as big of a fan of boobs as there is, but on a game thread where women and possibly teens/kids could be following, it's just one more obvious sign of their overall jackass and unwelcoming behavior.
Growing up, half my family was from Houston, and half were from Dallas. I used to root for both teams, since they were in different leagues and both teams hadn't experienced any major, sustained success. Felt the fan bases were very similar.
But I'll also add this caveat: the Houston Oilers fans I grew up with were VERY sensitive because of the Cowboys' success and reputation. I had a family member on the Houston side once tell me that the anger stemmed from the fact that Houston is the largest city in Texas but always takes a back seat to DFW in media and pop culture. There's also the natural "eww" reaction when it comes to what the nation thinks of as "Houston", for better or worse.
The above post is correct. At some point, Astros fans as a whole turned mean (I do know some very nice Astros fans), and the pall of the biggest cheating scandal in 100 years made them even meaner. Unfortunately for them, it's one that will take the franchise decades to recover from in the public eye. This past summer, KHOU reported a fan poll that found the Astros were third most disliked team in baseball, behind only the Yankees and Dodgers. Unlike those two teams, Houston doesn't have a massive nationwide fan base counter that.
What makes it worse for them is, that despite their amazing run, they can't seem to dominate the popularity in their own state. As the
Houston Chronicle reported recently, the state is basically split 50-50. Houston, Beaumont, Corpus, and Brownsville have a Houston advantage, while DFW, Waco, West Texas, and the Panhandle favor the Rangers. San Antonio tilts slightly to Houston, and Austin tilts slightly to Texas. You can almost draw a straight line through the state. Again, that creates a huge amount of insecurity. I think it adds to it that Houston's success doesn't get much more than a shrug and "I hate those guys" attitude from Texas fans. That Texas fans don't wallow in misery about it (the way Texas or A&M fans often do when the other has the better team) feeds the beast.
! deGrom is probably giving him investment tips and such 
