***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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Reminds me a lot of the challenge system in tennis.
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My biggest question is how much of the ball needs to hit the zone in order for it to count? Does a slight edge touching it count, or does half the ball need to hit? what is the threshold i guess is my concern
No matter what!
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All I do is Nguyen said:

My biggest question is how much of the ball needs to hit the zone in order for it to count? Does a slight edge touching it count, or does half the ball need to hit? what is the threshold i guess is my concern


Technically if a stitch touches the zone it's a strike. It's one of the points detractors make.
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MosesHallRAB04 said:

All I do is Nguyen said:

My biggest question is how much of the ball needs to hit the zone in order for it to count? Does a slight edge touching it count, or does half the ball need to hit? what is the threshold i guess is my concern


Technically if a stitch touches the zone it's a strike. It's one of the points detractors make.


It will probably expand the zone but at least it's consistent.
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MosesHallRAB04 said:

All I do is Nguyen said:

My biggest question is how much of the ball needs to hit the zone in order for it to count? Does a slight edge touching it count, or does half the ball need to hit? what is the threshold i guess is my concern


Technically if a stitch touches the zone it's a strike. It's one of the points detractors make.
I'm fine with that, it removes any arbitrariness. If any part of ball touches zone it is a strike. The best batters at commanding the zone will flourish.
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MosesHallRAB04 said:

All I do is Nguyen said:

My biggest question is how much of the ball needs to hit the zone in order for it to count? Does a slight edge touching it count, or does half the ball need to hit? what is the threshold i guess is my concern


Technically if a stitch touches the zone it's a strike. It's one of the points detractors make.

That is such a dumb argument though, especially when you watch Laz or Angel call a game. They might need to adjust the strikezone a bit if it becomes a problem. I don't see side to side being an issue but maybe a curve ball that just nips the front bottom or the back top of the zone.
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4 years ago today

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MosesHallRAB04 said:

All I do is Nguyen said:

My biggest question is how much of the ball needs to hit the zone in order for it to count? Does a slight edge touching it count, or does half the ball need to hit? what is the threshold i guess is my concern


Technically if a stitch touches the zone it's a strike. It's one of the points detractors make.
this is also a 3 dimensional challenge, most think of it as a 2D (cartesian) plane but the depth of the plate also needs to be considered
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Bag said:

MosesHallRAB04 said:

All I do is Nguyen said:

My biggest question is how much of the ball needs to hit the zone in order for it to count? Does a slight edge touching it count, or does half the ball need to hit? what is the threshold i guess is my concern


Technically if a stitch touches the zone it's a strike. It's one of the points detractors make.
this is also a 3 dimensional challenge, most think of it as a 2D (cartesian) plane but the depth of the plate also needs to be considered
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Bag said:

MosesHallRAB04 said:

All I do is Nguyen said:

My biggest question is how much of the ball needs to hit the zone in order for it to count? Does a slight edge touching it count, or does half the ball need to hit? what is the threshold i guess is my concern


Technically if a stitch touches the zone it's a strike. It's one of the points detractors make.
this is also a 3 dimensional challenge, most think of it as a 2D (cartesian) plane but the depth of the plate also needs to be considered


I think the 3d zone should be round or rounded at the edges. That'll prevent balls in the dirt or chest high being strikes.
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Farmer1906 said:

Bag said:

MosesHallRAB04 said:

All I do is Nguyen said:

My biggest question is how much of the ball needs to hit the zone in order for it to count? Does a slight edge touching it count, or does half the ball need to hit? what is the threshold i guess is my concern


Technically if a stitch touches the zone it's a strike. It's one of the points detractors make.
this is also a 3 dimensional challenge, most think of it as a 2D (cartesian) plane but the depth of the plate also needs to be considered


I think the 3d zone should be round or rounded at the edges. That'll prevent balls in the dirt or chest high being strikes.
Do we get 3D glasses with red and blue lenses so we can see the zone in real time?
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CFTXAG10 said:

spadilly said:

Did any of you STHs have your WS presale yesterday? And what did the inventory look like?

Yes, still cant get it in. Crashed at 9am when it opened.

Edit to add: STH presale was supposed to be 9am this morning




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CFTXAG10 said:

4 years ago today




I would love to see this happen but I don't know if the Rangers will trot him back out.
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Bochy seems hell bent on keeping the two of them from facing off
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Dang, missed the presale!
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htxag09 said:


I found his postgame comments interesting. He absolutely wasn't wrong that it was luck and lot of soft hits that found holes. But it shows that it's in his head and he's thinking about it when on the mound. Got to learn to let that **** go and move on.
Thats not a fair take at all, every major league pitcher can usually break down every pitch and every piece of minutia of an outing, why shouldnt he be allowed to as well?
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Other pitchers can also shake it off and focus on executing pitches when on the mound. I have no issue with him breaking games down. But seems pretty obvious, to me at least, that he lets it get in his head when he's pitching. I mean game 2 wasn't the first time a couple small things snowballed into a crooked number.
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Also this day in Astro history, our first pennant! 18 years ago somehow.

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Bag said:

MosesHallRAB04 said:

All I do is Nguyen said:

My biggest question is how much of the ball needs to hit the zone in order for it to count? Does a slight edge touching it count, or does half the ball need to hit? what is the threshold i guess is my concern


Technically if a stitch touches the zone it's a strike. It's one of the points detractors make.
this is also a 3 dimensional challenge, most think of it as a 2D (cartesian) plane but the depth of the plate also needs to be considered

Next you're gonna tell me non-Euclidean geometry is a factor in this thing.
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Fangraphs Zips Game by Game Odds
0-0: 56.5%
0-1: 39.0%
0-2: 20.8%
1-2: 36.1%

A win tonight should vault us over 50%
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Anyone else find it funny that GLF for Globe Life Field is the same as GLF for the Astros motto -- Good Luck, ****ers?
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The Porkchop Express said:

Also this day in Astro history, our first pennant! 18 years ago somehow.


literally seems like yesterday, and oh, gawd those unis are terrible
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Bregxit said:

MaxPower said:

Not sure I like that system, specifically if it's only those 3 who can initiate the challenge. I can see one knucklehead teammate using all the challenges and pissing everyone off but also seems like it would take more time


The challenges at the SL games took less than 10 seconds. Batter tapped his helmet to challenge and the result immediately went on the video board. Then play resumed.
The challenge system is a good first step that still keeps the umpire in the game and keeps the umpire union onboard with the changes. Where it goes from there and how quickly it evolves is open for debate.

"Embrace change, you must." - Yoda
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Classless *****s
Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
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bearkatag15 said:

Classless *****s



Baseball gods don't like wishing injury on others.
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Cromagnum said:

I don't see why umps would ***** then, unless they have an axe to grind and want to influence the game. Would literally have to stand there and just do what you're told on your earpiece. Don't have to get in arguments with players or coaches and don't have to toss anyone
Plus it's not like they wouldn't still be ruling on plays at the plate, foul tips (they obviously need to work on it), and other duties. You would think they would be all for it UNLESS they think it's a slippery slope to removing them altogether.
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Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
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Looked at his feed. He's a liar. You could buy tickets yesterday. I posted the screenshots in the trash thread.


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You can still get tickets today for the game tonight.
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CFTXAG10 said:

4 years ago today




Still gives me chills. And the juxtaposition between the sad Yankees and the happy Astros is just so enjoyable.

And of course the Chapman meme.

I hate the Yankees, the Dodgers and the Red Sox.

And on a tangent note, I really do miss George Springer.
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The Porkchop Express said:

Also this day in Astro history, our first pennant! 18 years ago somehow.




I went to one of those playoff games in that series, it wasn't the last one, but was a great experience!
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MaxPower said:

Not sure I like that system, specifically if it's only those 3 who can initiate the challenge. I can see one knucklehead teammate using all the challenges and pissing everyone off but also seems like it would take more time
That knucklehead, if done too many times, will find himself on the bench...problem solved.

If there are only 3 I doubt it would take that much more time and I love the idea of the umpire getting shown up on the big screen. Perhaps it will lead to course correcting during the game where he realizes, crap, I really am missing that outside strike (or whatever it is) and he will, GULP, try to do better. What a novel concept.

I'm tired of their crap and too much money is involved for them to wield that much power. F*** 'em.
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Complete sellouts like Texans games have been for past 10 years?
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Farmer1906 said:

Looked at his feed. He's a liar. You could buy tickets yesterday. I posted the screenshots in the trash thread.





Maybe they are actually sold out to original ticket holders and others, but people are reselling them, or putting them on StubHub?

I mean, you can always get tickets to anything these days.
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