***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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jakeaggie84
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In reply to Bob Lee • 11:44p, 9/29/23
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Bob Lee said:
jakeaggie84 said:
What team do you personally hate more??

Rangers or mariners?

I kind of shift between the last team we played. I can't stand the mariners especially after beaning our guys so many times last series, but the rangers fans would be brutal if we don't make the playoffs.


I actually don't hate either team. I was trying to figure out which team I'd rather face in the playoffs, and it's got to be the Rangers because of their bullpen.


And playing them at their park has been amazing this year
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In reply to jakeaggie84 • 11:44p, 9/29/23
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jakeaggie84 said:
What team do you personally hate more??

Rangers or mariners?

I kind of shift between the last team we played. I can't stand the mariners especially after beaning our guys so many times last series, but the rangers fans would be brutal if we don't make the playoffs.
I hate the rangerettes more BUT I'd rather they make the playoffs because I don't think they would make it out of the wildcard round (assuming we sweep Arizona and texas finishes 2nd).

If we win tomorrow and so does Seattle we need to go for the win Sunday (and Arizona likely won't have anything to play for at that point anyway). We take the division, eliminate the Seahags and get some much needed rest.
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In reply to jakeaggie84 • 11:44p, 9/29/23
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jakeaggie84 said:
What team do you personally hate more??

Rangers or mariners?

I kind of shift between the last team we played. I can't stand the mariners especially after beaning our guys so many times last series, but the rangers fans would be brutal if we don't make the playoffs.


Seattle due to the recent history, ***** ass Scotty, and their fans.

A Astros-Rangers match up would be fun on here though.
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In reply to Beat40 • 11:45p, 9/29/23
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Beat40 said:
OK - serious question for a moment. Let's say both the Mariners and Astros win tomorrow. Win tomorrow guarantees a postseason spot, but Sunday could mean the division title if the Astros and Mariners win Sunday. Both games at 2:10pm.

What do you think the organization and Dusty will do? WIll they:
A) Go for the division title
B) Be content with the post season spot and rest guys


What do YOU want the organization to do if in that position on Sunday?
A) Go for the division title
B) Be content with the post season spot and rest guys

I think the team organization would go for the chance at the division title simply given the rest that could be had from being division winners.

I also would take the gamble as I'd rather be guaranteed an ALDS than have to go through the wild card and play more games.
We should rest Maldy for the playoffs and if we happen to win the division, so be it.

It would be one thing if it was between starting or resting Framber, but I don't think that is in play. So, I don't think going for it does much harm.
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In reply to Wabs • 11:45p, 9/29/23
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Still can't believe that if we sweep and the Mariners sweep, the Mariners are out of the playoffs. Crazy.
Edit for my stupidity
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11:45p, 9/29/23
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Arlington is throwing a bullpen game tomorrow.

Their pitching is coming apart at the seams.
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In reply to Wabs • 11:45p, 9/29/23
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Wabs said:
Still can't believe that if we sweep and the Mariners sweep, the Mariners are out of the playoffs. Crazy.
Yup, look at the chart. If we sweep the Mariners are toast, even if they sweep. I'd love it for several reasons.
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In reply to iamtheglove • 11:46p, 9/29/23
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iamtheglove said:
Wabs said:
Still can't believe that if we sweep and the Mariners sweep, the Mariners are out of the playoffs. Crazy.
If we get to Sunday, play before Seattle and win (and they are 3-0 vs Arlington) does Seattle try to lose on purpose? That would be crazy to watch



I think the games are at the same time. What would losing on purpose accomplish? Do you think they care about us that much to throw a game? I don't.
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11:47p, 9/29/23
I hate the Yankees but neither of these teams in the West bother me much. I guess I would prefer to play the Rangers because Seattle is a tough out.
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11:47p, 9/29/23
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Just saw a stat that texas has played 5 times in Seattle and have 59 strikeouts...wow!
ETA - that's not just a wow but a Torbush wow!
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 11:48p, 9/29/23
Farmer1906 said:
iamtheglove said:
Wabs said:
Still can't believe that if we sweep and the Mariners sweep, the Mariners are out of the playoffs. Crazy.
If we get to Sunday, play before Seattle and win (and they are 3-0 vs Arlington) does Seattle try to lose on purpose? That would be crazy to watch



I think the games are at the same time. What would losing on purpose accomplish? Do you think they care about us that much to throw a game? I don't.
Yes, I had a brain fart. Edited my post for blatant stupidity
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In reply to jakeaggie84 • 11:48p, 9/29/23
jakeaggie84 said:
What team do you personally hate more??

Rangers or mariners?

I kind of shift between the last team we played. I can't stand the mariners especially after beaning our guys so many times last series, but the rangers fans would be brutal if we don't make the playoffs.

Seattle without a doubt
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In reply to Hornbeck • 11:48p, 9/29/23
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the Rangers may have to abandon Saturday's game fairly early...

and just go all-in on Sunday with their best pitchers
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 11:49p, 9/29/23
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Farmer1906 said:
iamtheglove said:
Wabs said:
Still can't believe that if we sweep and the Mariners sweep, the Mariners are out of the playoffs. Crazy.
If we get to Sunday, play before Seattle and win (and they are 3-0 vs Arlington) does Seattle try to lose on purpose? That would be crazy to watch



I think the games are at the same time. What would losing on purpose accomplish? Do you think they care about us that much to throw a game? I don't.


Yep. Baseball took a cue from soccer and played all the final games at the same time. For excitement in a playoff chase and to keep anyone from gaining an advantage in a playoff race. It's one of the good things they have done. Few and far between.
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In reply to Wabs • 11:51p, 9/29/23
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Wabs said:
Still can't believe that if we sweep and the Mariners sweep, the Mariners are out of the playoffs. Crazy.
bring back the game 163's
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11:51p, 9/29/23
Does Seattle hold tie break with Toronto?
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11:51p, 9/29/23
I've come to the conclusion I'd like for the offense to go out there and win it tomorrow.

Put it on Kelly the way they did Castillo.
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In reply to W • 11:53p, 9/29/23
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W said:
the Rangers may have to abandon Saturday's game fairly early...

and just go all-in on Sunday with their best pitchers


I just had that thought in the other thread. It's kind of like a college baseball regional. It's Sunday night and even though you went thru the winners bracket, you don't have pitching depth. At some point you call off the dogs and save everything for Monday night.
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11:53p, 9/29/23
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I'd be less worried about the Rangers, but I live in DFW and hearing their cries of anguish if they get knocked out on the final would be oh so good.

Don't really care though, just win tomorrow
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In reply to JohnnyTexAg1995 • 11:53p, 9/29/23
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I think so

otherwise the Blue Jays would have clinched tonight
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11:53p, 9/29/23
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Top 9. Last chance for Texas to score 8.
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11:54p, 9/29/23
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Best case we could have hoped for after Sunday. Win 2 and get in. Win 2 and rangers lose 1 we win the division.
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In reply to JohnnyTexAg1995 • 11:56p, 9/29/23
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JohnnyTexAg1995 said:
Does Seattle hold tie break with Toronto?


Only way they end up tied with TOR is either a 3 way tie with TEX or a 4 way tie with us. In a 3 way tie that doesn'tinvolve us, TEX and SEA in...TOR out.

Scenario: Astros win AL West; Mariners, Rangers, Blue Jays tie
Result: Rangers and Mariners IN; Blue Jays OUT

In this scenario, the Rangers would claim the second AL Wild Card spot because they won their season series against both the Mariners and Blue Jays. The third AL Wild Card spot would go to the Mariners because they have a better intradivision record than the Blue Jays. (Seattle and Toronto split their season series, so the head-to-head record tiebreaker is not in play.)
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In reply to Wabs • 11:56p, 9/29/23
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Wabs said:
Still can't believe that if we sweep and the Mariners sweep, the Mariners are out of the playoffs. Crazy.
What's crazy is that if Astros win Saturday, the Mariners sweep and they finish their Sunday game before we do, the Rangers playoff hopes will depend on the Astros winning on Sunday.



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In reply to BTKAG97 • 11:56p, 9/29/23
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Top 9. Last chance for Texas to score 8.
As much fun as it would be to have a shot at the division, it would be kind of epic if the Mariners blew an 8 run lead in the 9th to all but eliminate themselves.
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11:57p, 9/29/23
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Is there a tiebreaker scenario where the Marlins have to finish the game with the Mets on Monday but they don't get in either way but impact the tiebreaker scenarios?
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12:01a, 9/30/23
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 12:02a, 9/30/23
Pretty simple for the 'Stros at this point. Just win 1 more.

Wait, is it right that if the Astros sweep and he Marines only go 3-1 the Astros win the division?
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In reply to Mr President Elect • 12:02a, 9/30/23
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Mr President Elect said:
Is there a tiebreaker scenario where the Marlins have to finish the game with the Mets on Monday but they don't get in either way but impact the tiebreaker scenarios?
For MLB, they will only play that game if it impacts making the playoffs or not. Seeding isn't enough to cause the game to be played. At least, it used to be that way, but I'm not sure with the expansion to 6 teams.

Not sure if they could run into a situation where the game could impact making it or not.
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12:03a, 9/30/23
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71 - Rangers
71 - Blue Jays
72 - Astros
73 - Mariners

2 games left
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12:03a, 9/30/23
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Tomorrow better be a great ****ing day for sports
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In reply to W • 12:04a, 9/30/23
Just win baby.
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12:05a, 9/30/23
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Man. At the end of Sunday some team is going to be pissed off.
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In reply to kb2001 • 12:08a, 9/30/23
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kb2001 said:
Mr President Elect said:
Is there a tiebreaker scenario where the Marlins have to finish the game with the Mets on Monday but they don't get in either way but impact the tiebreaker scenarios?
For MLB, they will only play that game if it impacts making the playoffs or not. Seeding isn't enough to cause the game to be played. At least, it used to be that way, but I'm not sure with the expansion to 6 teams.

Not sure if they could run into a situation where the game could impact making it or not.
I don't know, if Mia and Az lose tomorrow and Reds/Cubs win, it gets pretty bunched up. My head hurts enough from following our scenarios, so not sure about theirs.
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In reply to Mr President Elect • 12:08a, 9/30/23
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Mr President Elect said:
Is there a tiebreaker scenario where the Marlins have to finish the game with the Mets on Monday but they don't get in either way but impact the tiebreaker scenarios?
Looks like the Marlins hold tiebreaker over Cubs, D-backs, and Reds. So if they end up a half game out of making the playoffs, they would likely play that last game, because winning would put them in. If they're a half game ahead, they wouldn't play, because losing would just put them tied, and they hold tiebreaker over all 3 possibilities
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