The wheels have fallen off at this point.
Maybe they use this as an opportunity to get rid of Dusty and hire a real GM.
Maybe they use this as an opportunity to get rid of Dusty and hire a real GM.
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Lol!!!! What is wrong with dana???0
Hornbeck said:
The wheels have fallen off at this point.
Maybe they use this as an opportunity to get rid of Dusty and hire a real GM.
Crane tied Dana's hands regarding Dusty this year. Nothing that fossil has done diminishes Dana's work in any way. That's 100% on Crane for still wanting to be the good guy and restore the Astros reputation. It's the entire reason he brought Mr. Potato Head back this year.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
Ags #1 said:
Lol!!!! What is wrong with dana???0
He should have traded Maldy when Dusty kept playing him over Diaz. Trade him for a draft pick, cokes for the Coke machine, something. Billy Beane did that to Art Howe. Manager being dumb? You're the GM, make moves.
This is all water under the bridge. When the Astros who are 3-8 the last 11 games don't make the playoffs, the blame is on Dusty, and a large chunk of blame also goes to Bagwell, the Abreu move was a $58.5M mistake. Own it. Cut Abreu, find another solution for 1B, again you're the GM…
Take this with a grain of salt, my hot take after the Aggie game and Astros game, and a few adult beverages.
To me this 2 week stretch (mainly last week plus orioles series) is a lack of effort, focus, and now the panic button has been hit so guys this weekend are pressing. Not by all the guys, but the mental errors are stacking up and one bad play turns into 3 runs by the opposition.
Bottom line is this. This 2023 team was going to need top 5 starting pitching and defense this year to repeat. They got that for the first 3 months and then it got wildly inconsistent.
Bottom line is this. This 2023 team was going to need top 5 starting pitching and defense this year to repeat. They got that for the first 3 months and then it got wildly inconsistent.
I'm still thinking we claim the last wild card spot. I'm assuming we will play much better on the road this week and find a way to beat Seattle 2/3. Also I think the rangers will sweep today and sweep the angels toput the division away.
89-73 finish, last wild card spot.
17 game difference from 2022 with virtually the same roster.
89-73 finish, last wild card spot.
17 game difference from 2022 with virtually the same roster.
Last 10 games Astros needed to go 6-4 at worst, 7-3 would be good. Currently 1-2. Better get hot now and finish 6-1.
Bring back Hinch
Bregxit said:tjack16 said:
If somebody posts that stupid playoff percentage graphic, I'm gonna throw something
Paging Farmer.
Playoff odds with 8 days left in the regular season:
— Codify (@CodifyBaseball) September 24, 2023
American League
Blue Jays, 90.8%
Rangers, 89.8%
Astros, 70.6%
Mariners, 48.8%
National League
Diamondbacks, 83.1%
Cubs, 59.1%
Marlins, 49.2%
Reds, 8.0%
Giants, 0.4%
Padres, 0.2%
Farmer1906 said:Bregxit said:tjack16 said:
If somebody posts that stupid playoff percentage graphic, I'm gonna throw something
Paging Farmer.Playoff odds with 8 days left in the regular season:
— Codify (@CodifyBaseball) September 24, 2023
American League
Blue Jays, 90.8%
Rangers, 89.8%
Astros, 70.6%
Mariners, 48.8%
National League
Diamondbacks, 83.1%
Cubs, 59.1%
Marlins, 49.2%
Reds, 8.0%
Giants, 0.4%
Padres, 0.2%
Down 26% in 7 days
That has to be some kind of record
Down 24% since Wednesday
lead said:
Some serious BAS in here. ESPN has us 96% chance making playoffs
9/20:HOU-90%, TEX-74%, TOR-71%, SEA-65%
9/21:HOU-92%, TOR-75%, TEX-73%, SEA-60%
9/22: HOU-92%, TEX-75%, TOR-73%, SEA-60%
9/23:TOR-90%, HOU-83%, TEX-80%, SEA-47%
9/24: TEX-90%, TOR-90%, HOU-72%, SEA-47%
Hornbeck said:Ags #1 said:
Lol!!!! What is wrong with dana???0
He should have traded Maldy when Dusty kept playing him over Diaz. Trade him for a draft pick, cokes for the Coke machine, something. Billy Beane did that to Art Howe. Manager being dumb? You're the GM, make moves.
You can't trade for draft picks in baseball, and there isn't a single team in the MLB who would've traded for Maldonado any way
We're all frustrated, but Dana isn't the problem
Sex Panther said:Hornbeck said:Ags #1 said:
Lol!!!! What is wrong with dana???0
He should have traded Maldy when Dusty kept playing him over Diaz. Trade him for a draft pick, cokes for the Coke machine, something. Billy Beane did that to Art Howe. Manager being dumb? You're the GM, make moves.
You can't trade for draft picks in baseball, and there isn't a single team in the MLB who would've traded for Maldonado any way
We're all frustrated, but Dana isn't the problem
Well not yet anyways. But he was hired during the worst offseason in Stros history so people honestly think he'll be the lone bright spot? Unlikely
Last one at home pic.twitter.com/LmkgOKFdO3
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) September 24, 2023
Smells like the FO is exerting a little influence
Or Crusty is getting desperate. Either way works for me.
But lineups aside it's still up to the hitters to hit the ball. And by and large they aren't doing that.
But lineups aside it's still up to the hitters to hit the ball. And by and large they aren't doing that.
So we pretty much paid Brantley like $200,000 an at bat this year huh?
Looks like it's north of $250,000/ab
Still can't bring himself to put Abreu at 8 where he belongs based on his output this season.Deluxe said:Last one at home pic.twitter.com/LmkgOKFdO3
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) September 24, 2023
Smells like the FO is exerting a little influence
the Brantley injury saga was another strange part of the 2023 season
“I’m a believer in my team and a believer that the cream rises to the top. We’re close.” — Dusty Baker.
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) September 24, 2023
/laughcry
or another thing the front office got wrongW said:
the Brantley injury saga was another strange part of the 2023 season
this is shades of the 2008 financial crisis...
when AIG had an AA+ credit rating...then a week later filed for bankruptcy
(I think it was AIG)
Astros are falling like a rock
when AIG had an AA+ credit rating...then a week later filed for bankruptcy
(I think it was AIG)
Astros are falling like a rock
W said:or another thing the front office got wrongW said:
the Brantley injury saga was another strange part of the 2023 season
Yeah he played 60 games last year and we ended up being fine. Letting him walk would have been easy to justify
W said:
the Brantley injury saga was another strange part of the 2023 season
I don't want to be a mercenary but….what are we protecting him for? He's a free agent who has been paid 12 million to do nothing. In the nfl he'd be given a cortisone shot and a slap on the ass and told to get his ass on the field
f1ghtintexasaggie said:“I’m a believer in my team and a believer that the cream rises to the top. We’re close.” — Dusty Baker.
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) September 24, 2023
/laughcry
Seven more games until I never have to read another dim witted rambling from this anachronistic joke of a manager in connection with this franchise.
Alvarez is now healthy enough to play lf? Has Chas ever been DH?
f1ghtintexasaggie said:“I’m a believer in my team and a believer that the cream rises to the top. We’re close.” — Dusty Baker.
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) September 24, 2023
/laughcry
We've got a whole 8 games to figure it out, I'm not worried
Hornbeck said:Ags #1 said:
Lol!!!! What is wrong with dana???0
He should have traded Maldy when Dusty kept playing him over Diaz. Trade him for a draft pick, cokes for the Coke machine, something. Billy Beane did that to Art Howe. Manager being dumb? You're the GM, make moves.
This is all water under the bridge. When the Astros who are 3-8 the last 11 games don't make the playoffs, the blame is on Dusty, and a large chunk of blame also goes to Bagwell, the Abreu move was a $58.5M mistake. Own it. Cut Abreu, find another solution for 1B, again you're the GM…
Take this with a grain of salt, my hot take after the Aggie game and Astros game, and a few adult beverages.
In all due respect, you have no idea what you're talking about.
1. Every single person on this thread was excited about the Abreu signing. Nobody predicted he would get hurt. It happens.
2. People need to stop blaming Jeff Bagwell. I see it here and on Twitter. He was an advisor. That's it. He had no final say on any decision and most of the moves were already discussed before Click left.
3. Trading for a draft pick?? What????? That's not a thing in baseball.
None of this falls on Brown. He was brought in late in the off-season and put in a bad situation.
This season was an astronomical failure and the blame should go to three people. Crane for mismanaging the GM situation and keeping Dusty around. Dusty for being stubborn and attempting to prove he's right to the point where it will potentially cost the Astros a playoff berth. And ultimately the players.
I think the Abreu move was actually a good decision, he had a great body of work and would have been great had he performed at a fraction of his career average production. Montero and McCullers were idiotic decisions
It is kinda funny that, even after repeatedly shooting ourselves in the foot in every possible way this year, we control own destiny into the playoffs if we win 5 of our last 7.
Zero problem signing Abreu, just didn't work out. We were all mostly excited about that. I do think 2 years was better than a 3 year deal though. That was my one issue with it.
The Montero signing was questionable because he only had 1 good season really and making him the highest paid non closer reliever was bad.
In hindsight it's easy to be mad at Bagwell but unless you were mad at both of those signings in February, you really can't say much.
The Montero signing was questionable because he only had 1 good season really and making him the highest paid non closer reliever was bad.
In hindsight it's easy to be mad at Bagwell but unless you were mad at both of those signings in February, you really can't say much.
Even fewer if the wins come vs Seattle.Deluxe said:
It is kinda funny that, even after repeatedly shooting ourselves in the foot in every possible way this year, we control own destiny into the playoffs if we win 5 of our last 7.
I'll also add that the organization is confident that Abreu will be a .800+ OPS guy after an off-season of rehab on his back.
Again, it was a problem since spring training. Why did they wait so long to shut him down for a while? I have no idea.
Again, it was a problem since spring training. Why did they wait so long to shut him down for a while? I have no idea.
Farmer1906 said:Even fewer if the wins come vs Seattle.Deluxe said:
It is kinda funny that, even after repeatedly shooting ourselves in the foot in every possible way this year, we control own destiny into the playoffs if we win 5 of our last 7.
I think 4-3 while winning the Seattle series would do it.
But to win the division we'd have to go like 6-1 with Seattle beating the Rangers 3/4 to end the season.
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