***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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The organization likes him. Sort of a JP France type. Won't ever be an ace but has a high floor as a decent #4 guy.
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Was this b/c Abreu is back?
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I'd assume it was since they brought Blanco up
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How many times can you send a guy down and call him up in the same season? I feel like a few of these guys have done it about five or six times.
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2ndChanceAg96 said:

Was this b/c Abreu is back?
Nope, calling up Ronel Blanco. Bullpen needs a fresh arm.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2016/03/03/statheads-and-researchers-mourn-as-mlbs-red-and-green-books-discontinued-ending-an-era/?sh=72d30e0e50ef
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Okay. Didn't see that.
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Farmer1906 said:




How in the heck does Bielak still have options left? I feel like he's bounced back and forth to AAA a dozen times.
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OKCAg2002 said:

Farmer1906 said:




How in the heck does Bielak still have options left? I feel like he's bounced back and forth to AAA a dozen times.
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I'm just thankful our AAA associate is Sugar land. I couldn't imagine how inconvenient it would be if it was still Fresno.
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OKCAg2002 said:

Farmer1906 said:




How in the heck does Bielak still have options left? I feel like he's bounced back and forth to AAA a dozen times.



Options are on a per year basis. You can send a guy down and call him up as many times in a season as you want...counts as one option.

Main limitation is when a guy goes down, he has to stay down so many days before you call him back up again unless you put someone on the injured list.
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R-Dog said:

OKCAg2002 said:

Farmer1906 said:




How in the heck does Bielak still have options left? I feel like he's bounced back and forth to AAA a dozen times.



Options are on a per year basis. You can send a guy down and call him up as many times in a season as you want...counts as one option.

Main limitation is when a guy goes down, he has to stay down so many days before you call him back up again unless you put someone on the injured list.


Given he's bounced back-and-forth the last few years, I'm guessing he has no more options left after this year?
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I don't know his specific contract situation but I'd think it's reasonable to think if he's not out of options now, he's close.

If he's out, then I believe they have to DFA him to send him down at that point
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False. There is a limit per year it was discussed here previously. Blanco is getting near the limit for this year also
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R-Dog said:

OKCAg2002 said:

Farmer1906 said:




How in the heck does Bielak still have options left? I feel like he's bounced back and forth to AAA a dozen times.



Options are on a per year basis. You can send a guy down and call him up as many times in a season as you want...counts as one option.

Main limitation is when a guy goes down, he has to stay down so many days before you call him back up again unless you put someone on the injured list.
This isn't the case.
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A few things to note:

You can't go back and forth as many times as you want. It is limited to 5x in a season. Once you hit the 40 man you only have 3 seasons of going up and down aka option years.

This is Bielak's 4th season doing so. I am not sure if 2020 didn't count or what. I think next year is when he has to stay up or be DFA'd.
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Farmer1906 said:

A few things to note:

You can't go back and forth as many times as you want. It is limited to 5x in a season. Once you hit the 40 man you only have 3 seasons of going up and down aka option years.

This is Bielak's 4th season doing so. I am not sure if 2020 didn't count or what. I think next year is when he has to stay up or be DFA'd.
I wonder if he might get traded. I can't imagine him being a bullpen arm the entire year next year
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I mispoke on the as many times as you want. Just was trying to make the point that multiiple ups and down only count as one option.
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bearkatag15 said:

Farmer1906 said:

A few things to note:

You can't go back and forth as many times as you want. It is limited to 5x in a season. Once you hit the 40 man you only have 3 seasons of going up and down aka option years.

This is Bielak's 4th season doing so. I am not sure if 2020 didn't count or what. I think next year is when he has to stay up or be DFA'd.
I wonder if he might get traded. I can't imagine him being a bullpen arm the entire year next year
When there isn't any major deadlines, I could see Dana making moves with Bielak, an outfielder, and maybe a few others to tweak /clean up things.
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Farmer1906 said:

bearkatag15 said:

Farmer1906 said:

A few things to note:

You can't go back and forth as many times as you want. It is limited to 5x in a season. Once you hit the 40 man you only have 3 seasons of going up and down aka option years.

This is Bielak's 4th season doing so. I am not sure if 2020 didn't count or what. I think next year is when he has to stay up or be DFA'd.
I wonder if he might get traded. I can't imagine him being a bullpen arm the entire year next year
When there isn't any major deadlines, I could see Dana making moves with Bielak, an outfielder, and maybe a few others to tweak /clean up things.

We have a healthy number of guys at their option limits, but I'm not sure anyone would give up anything for them vs waiting until they hit waivers. I hope he can get some return.
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I am 90% sure Blanco cannot come and go any more. I thought he was at his limit for the year. So now that he's up he's got to stay or be released. And I now think Bielak is at that limit.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Farmer1906 said:

bearkatag15 said:

Farmer1906 said:

A few things to note:

You can't go back and forth as many times as you want. It is limited to 5x in a season. Once you hit the 40 man you only have 3 seasons of going up and down aka option years.

This is Bielak's 4th season doing so. I am not sure if 2020 didn't count or what. I think next year is when he has to stay up or be DFA'd.
I wonder if he might get traded. I can't imagine him being a bullpen arm the entire year next year
When there isn't any major deadlines, I could see Dana making moves with Bielak, an outfielder, and maybe a few others to tweak /clean up things.

We have a healthy number of guys at their option limits, but I'm not sure anyone would give up anything for them vs waiting until they hit waivers. I hope he can get some return.


Who else is at their limit besides Bielak? Bannon? I think everyone else has at least 1 more year.
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tjack16 said:

How many times can you send a guy down and call him up in the same season? I feel like a few of these guys have done it about five or six times.
I always wanted the Astros to somehow re-acquire Fiers and just keep sending him up and down to different levels, and have him pitch every inning for a couple of weeks.
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Mathguy64 said:

I am 90% sure Blanco cannot come and go any more. I thought he was at his limit for the year. So now that he's up he's got to stay or be released. And I now think Bielak is at that limit.


He just has to stay for the rest of the season. Roster expands in a week.
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Rosters expand Sept 1 so I doubt anyone comes and goes again this season.
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Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
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Ag_07 said:

Rosters expand Sept 1 so I doubt anyone comes and goes again this season.


Unless there is an injury.
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I'm unconcerned with what becomes of either Bielak or Blanco after this, honestly.
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Beau Holder said:

I'm unconcerned with what becomes of either Bielak or Blanco after this, honestly.


I was unconcerned with Framber after 2019. What an idiot I was.

I think we've seen enough to know what Bielak is. Blanco could still have a role in this team in the future. Especially with so many bullpen spots open next year.
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Farmer1906 said:

Ag_07 said:

Rosters expand Sept 1 so I doubt anyone comes and goes again this season.


Unless there is an injury.

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The Porkchop Express said:

tjack16 said:

How many times can you send a guy down and call him up in the same season? I feel like a few of these guys have done it about five or six times.
I always wanted the Astros to somehow re-acquire Fiers and just keep sending him up and down to different levels, and have him pitch every inning for a couple of weeks.


It'd be the perfect union between Astros fans and Dusty.

TIL HIS ARM FALLS OFF.

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tjack16 said:

How many times can you send a guy down and call him up in the same season? I feel like a few of these guys have done it about five or six times.
https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/minor-league-options

A player who is on the 40-man roster but does not open the season on the 26-man roster or the injured list must be optioned to the Minor Leagues. Once an optioned player has spent at least 20 days in the Minors in a given season, he loses one of his options. Only one Minor League option is used per season, regardless of how many times a player is optioned to and from the Minors over the course of a given season. (Players may only be optioned five times per season; after that, it requires outright assignment waivers to assign the player to the Minor Leagues.)
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Our boy Ben DuBose says he would take Dusty over Hinch
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Lol, Dusty wouldn't have even had Cole warm
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