They're playing at an elite caliber level right now. It's baseball though, something has got to give at some point right? They have to have a letdown at some point I feel, losing 3 in a row, or a series to someone they shouldn't.
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Last: 8 mo ago by texasaggie2015
In 3 of Javier's last 5 starts he has allowed 3 runs in the first inning and then (at least in those games) little else.
Obviously the real issue is his inability to consistently throw strikes/hit spots, but I wonder an opener would help him settle in against the middle of the order.
I'm not suggesting Dusty would ever do it, but wondering if anyone else has thought this.
Obviously the real issue is his inability to consistently throw strikes/hit spots, but I wonder an opener would help him settle in against the middle of the order.
I'm not suggesting Dusty would ever do it, but wondering if anyone else has thought this.
Seattle looks almost invincible right now. The Rangers have looked that way a few times this season.
Yet here we all are, within 2 games of each other.
Astros are right where we need to be. Get Yordon back in his grove and SP will round inti post season form.
Yet here we all are, within 2 games of each other.
Astros are right where we need to be. Get Yordon back in his grove and SP will round inti post season form.
Rangers are a good team but I said a long time ago they're young and they don't know how to win.
They seem to scuffle in big spots when the lights are the brightest. It's about to get dicey for them as this final stretch gets tight.
This is one reason many like us to eventually pull out on top in the West. We have the experience that they don't.
They seem to scuffle in big spots when the lights are the brightest. It's about to get dicey for them as this final stretch gets tight.
This is one reason many like us to eventually pull out on top in the West. We have the experience that they don't.
Just looking at the remaining schedule between the Stros, rangers and mariners
I'd put money on the rangers missing the postseason all together, and us and the mariners battling it out for division / wildcard spot to the last day.
I'd put money on the rangers missing the postseason all together, and us and the mariners battling it out for division / wildcard spot to the last day.
Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:
I'd put money on the rangers missing the postseason all together,
Dear Penthouse….
Did anybody say what Maldy's deal was in his last at bat?
Seattle's pitching is elite and could easily carry them into the postseason.FrioAg 00 said:
Seattle looks almost invincible right now. The Rangers have looked that way a few times this season.
Yet here we all are, within 2 games of each other.
Astros are right where we need to be. Get Yordon back in his grove and SP will round inti post season form.
Their lineup is just so pesky. And they're consistently pesky. If you look at their averages, OBP, and slugging their entire lineup is relatively similar in all of those categories. And that's with nobody having elite stats at the plate...including Julio.
Farmer suggested it last night.Proudag06 said:
In 3 of Javier's last 5 starts he has allowed 3 runs in the first inning and then (at least in those games) little else.
Obviously the real issue is his inability to consistently throw strikes/hit spots, but I wonder an opener would help him settle in against the middle of the order.
I'm not suggesting Dusty would ever do it, but wondering if anyone else has thought this.
I wonder who would be Dusty's opener of choice, right now.
Mariners are peaking wayyy too early.
I suggested it because the Red Sox stacked their lineup with lefties at the top and are generally left-handed. If Javier could have faced those guys twice and not 3x then it sets him up for more success.redline248 said:Farmer suggested it last night.Proudag06 said:
In 3 of Javier's last 5 starts he has allowed 3 runs in the first inning and then (at least in those games) little else.
Obviously the real issue is his inability to consistently throw strikes/hit spots, but I wonder an opener would help him settle in against the middle of the order.
I'm not suggesting Dusty would ever do it, but wondering if anyone else has thought this.
I wonder who would be Dusty's opener of choice, right now.
Stanek has been an opener before. In last night's case, Maton or Parker would be ideal. Obviously, neither was on the roster last night.
Fangraphs is losing faith in Arlington.
I think calling up Arighetti and moving Javier to the pen for a turn or two in the rotation might help.
It's a tough call because at the same time we need our best pitchers out there to win games. Is Arighetti a better option than Javier?
Are we OK with Spencer coming up and making his debut in a crucial division race in August?
Tough call
Are we OK with Spencer coming up and making his debut in a crucial division race in August?
Tough call
Texas' schedule is getting hard for the rest of the season where ours (and definitely the Mariners) is softening up soonFarmer1906 said:
Fangraphs is losing faith in Arlington.
I know CJ has somehow squeaked by ok his last few starts, but he's walking on some massive eggshells. I still have limited confidence in him.
The bar isn't exactly super high. Here are Javier's 4 August starts:Ag_07 said:
It's a tough call because at the same time we need our best pitchers out there to win games. Is Arighetti a better option than Javier?
Are we OK with Spencer coming up and making his debut in a crucial division race in August?
Tough call
19.1 IP (4.2 or 5.0 each game)
5.59 ERA
7.10 FIP
9.89 xFIP
39 Game Score
2.2% K-BB% (embarrassingly low)
From everything I'm hearing in regards to Framber and Javier, I'm not optimistic we see a big turnaround.
Well that's pretty disheartening to hear...
Yainer since July 1: .289/.311/.602, 11 HR, 27 RBI in 135 PA. (he has 289 PA on the year)
Chas since July 1: .324/.415/.654, 12 HR, 33 RBI in 159 PA (330 PA on the year)
Tucker since July 1: .323/.412/.645, 13 HR, 43 RBI in 183 PA
Chas's 191 is the 3rd highest wRC+ in all of MLB since July 1. Tucker is 6th at 184, Yainer at 32sn with 144.
Oh yeah, Altuve returned on July 26, since then: .398/.472/.570, 3 HR, 11 RBI, 21 runs scored, 193 wRC+
I literally love that man
Chas since July 1: .324/.415/.654, 12 HR, 33 RBI in 159 PA (330 PA on the year)
Tucker since July 1: .323/.412/.645, 13 HR, 43 RBI in 183 PA
Chas's 191 is the 3rd highest wRC+ in all of MLB since July 1. Tucker is 6th at 184, Yainer at 32sn with 144.
Oh yeah, Altuve returned on July 26, since then: .398/.472/.570, 3 HR, 11 RBI, 21 runs scored, 193 wRC+
I literally love that man
Tandem starts with Javier, Urquidy, Brown, Bielak. They know all they need to do is go 4, 5 IP max.
Throw an opener for Javier and Brown. With Javier especially it may lower his first inning pitch count and let him go longer than 5.
Throw an opener for Javier and Brown. With Javier especially it may lower his first inning pitch count and let him go longer than 5.
Remaining Schedule SOSgougler08 said:Texas' schedule is getting hard for the rest of the season where ours (and definitely the Mariners) is softening up soonFarmer1906 said:
Fangraphs is losing faith in Arlington.
12. Rangers - .505
24. Mariner - .480
28. Astros - .471
If we rank the remaining opponents (>60% Playoffs Odds / 40-60% Odds / 10-40% Odds / <10% Odds)
A s t r o s 9 / 3 / 9 / 15
Rangers 21 / 1 / 3 / 12
Mariners 17 / 0 / 3 / 17
I think we win the most favorable schedule remaining.
bearkatag15 said:
If Chas has a similar year next year to this year, talk about buying out his arbitration years with an extension might be in play
Chas is under control for another 3 years after this season, at which point he will then be 31 years old. Lets tap the brakes on giving him a multi year contract.
I kind of forget that Chas, Javier, Garcia, Abreu, & Jake are all still so young in their careers. They feel like they have been around for a while, but most are just in year 3.AustinCountyAg said:bearkatag15 said:
If Chas has a similar year next year to this year, talk about buying out his arbitration years with an extension might be in play
Chas is under control for another 3 years after this season, at which point he will then be 31 years old. Lets tap the brakes on giving him a multi year contract.
Since the start of last year:AustinCountyAg said:bearkatag15 said:
If Chas has a similar year next year to this year, talk about buying out his arbitration years with an extension might be in play
Chas is under control for another 3 years after this season, at which point he will then be 31 years old. Lets tap the brakes on giving him a multi year contract.
Chas - 737 PA, .263/.351/.467, 33 HR, 98 RBI 131 wRC+
That would rank him somewhere around the 15-16th best player in MLB this year.
Maybe a 4 or 5 year deal would be ok
what does that mean? sorry if I missed somethingtexasaggie2015 said:
From everything I'm hearing in regards to Framber and Javier, I'm not optimistic we see a big turnaround.
Extreme arm fatigue. Unless they get shut down for a while, I wouldn't expect a dramatic improvement.
time for sniffing saltstexasaggie2015 said:
Extreme arm fatigue. Unless they get shut down for a while, I wouldn't expect a dramatic improvement.
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
JV
Framber
CJ
France
Brown
Urquidy
Skip the guys who need a reset at least once in the rotation. If not, at least work on a tandem start situation with guys in the pen to limit innings. It's not worth letting Framber and CJ limp to the finish line for a playoff berth and hope they can run off fumes in the post-season.
Framber
CJ
France
Brown
Urquidy
Skip the guys who need a reset at least once in the rotation. If not, at least work on a tandem start situation with guys in the pen to limit innings. It's not worth letting Framber and CJ limp to the finish line for a playoff berth and hope they can run off fumes in the post-season.
Get both of them some time on the IL, especially when we can call up another pitcher in September.texasaggie2015 said:
Extreme arm fatigue. Unless they get shut down for a while, I wouldn't expect a dramatic improvement.
It wouldn't hurt one bit from a physical or mental standpoint for them to both skip a turn or two in the rotation down the stretch.texasaggie2015 said:
Extreme arm fatigue. Unless they get shut down for a while, I wouldn't expect a dramatic improvement.
I am really starting to think that our 1-2 punch going into the postseason will be JV and France.
Really hard to do in a race to make the playoffs, although i agree they need some rest (as does Brown).Wabs said:Get both of them some time on the IL, especially when we can call up another pitcher in September.texasaggie2015 said:
Extreme arm fatigue. Unless they get shut down for a while, I wouldn't expect a dramatic improvement.
In years past we had this luxury because we had such a large lead in the division. All these AAA Sunday line-ups throughout the season are now rearing their ugly head.
Mr.Bond said:time for sniffing saltstexasaggie2015 said:
Extreme arm fatigue. Unless they get shut down for a while, I wouldn't expect a dramatic improvement.
Time to call Roger Clemens to see if his guy can give our guys a couple of shots in the buttocks.
Watching us play Boston last night gave me flashbacks to that 2021 ALCS when we they absolutely dominated us in those GMs 2 and 3 yet we pulled it out.
That was a wild series and with the way our pitching was dismantled the outlook after GM 3 was incredibly bleak. They were in driver seat for sure.
Still brings a smile to my face thinking about us pulling it out at home and seeing Cora tear up outside their locker room postgame.
That was a wild series and with the way our pitching was dismantled the outlook after GM 3 was incredibly bleak. They were in driver seat for sure.
Still brings a smile to my face thinking about us pulling it out at home and seeing Cora tear up outside their locker room postgame.
I loved that series. Down to the last strike and Castro comes through. Then the hit parade was on to a blowout. Framber and Garcia threw absolute gems in games 5 and 6 to send us to the WS.
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