The Royals need some Kaufman magic in the bottom of the 9th on the MLB network.

Remember the hype about Eric Anthony? Didn't he hit a HR to the upper deck in the Dome?

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Jose Siri is on pace to become the 1st player in the Modern Era (with at least 250 PA’s) to have both

An OPS+ above 100
An OBP below .260 pic.twitter.com/oYhjcE14hr

— Addison (@YankeeWRLD) August 17, 2023

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for the olds, what is OPS+

On-base Plus Slugging Plus (OPS+) | Glossary | MLB.com

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OPS+ takes a player's on-base plus slugging percentage and normalizes the number across the entire league. It accounts for external factors like ballparks. It then adjusts so a score of 100 is league average, and 150 is 50 percent better than the league average.

For example, Miguel Cabrera's .895 OPS in 2014 was 50 percent better than the MLB average after being adjusted for league and park factors. As a result, his OPS+ was 150.

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BadAggie said:

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Remember the hype about Eric Anthony? Didn't he hit a HR to the upper deck in the Dome?

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Yes he did. Third one after Wynn and Rader, if I remember correctly (which is always a 50/50 proposition).

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OPS+ takes a player's on-base plus slugging percentage and normalizes the number across the entire league. It accounts for external factors like ballparks. It then adjusts so a score of 100 is league average, and 150 is 50 percent better than the league average.

For example, Miguel Cabrera's .895 OPS in 2014 was 50 percent better than the MLB average after being adjusted for league and park factors. As a result, his OPS+ was 150.

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thats cool, just curious what was so wrong about OPS that OPS+ fixes?

have yall kicked around the Wander fiasco?

am I the only one that thinks his career being over is a bit of a stretch?

I feel like Karl Malone did the same thing but I dont remember the details.

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redline248 said:

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OPS+ takes a player's on-base plus slugging percentage and normalizes the number across the entire league. It accounts for external factors like ballparks. It then adjusts so a score of 100 is league average, and 150 is 50 percent better than the league average.

For example, Miguel Cabrera's .895 OPS in 2014 was 50 percent better than the MLB average after being adjusted for league and park factors. As a result, his OPS+ was 150.

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thats cool, just curious what was so wrong about OPS that OPS+ fixes?

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Well, OPS for Player A who faces pitchers from the Royals twice as many times as the rest of the AL might be higher than Player B who faces studs in the AL East or West more often.

OPS+ tries to take that sort of thing into account.

Karl Malone had relations with a teen, as in 13 or 14 when he was at Southeastern Louisiana State School for the Deaf, Dumb, and Blind.

so the Mariners won 3 of 4 vs. the Royals

Seattle will bring a 66-55 record into MMP to take on the Astros (70-52)

afterwards the M's get back to the cupcakes...White Sox, Royals again, and the A's

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redline248 said:

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OPS+ takes a player's on-base plus slugging percentage and normalizes the number across the entire league. It accounts for external factors like ballparks. It then adjusts so a score of 100 is league average, and 150 is 50 percent better than the league average.

For example, Miguel Cabrera's .895 OPS in 2014 was 50 percent better than the MLB average after being adjusted for league and park factors. As a result, his OPS+ was 150.

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thats cool, just curious what was so wrong about OPS that OPS+ fixes?

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OPS just throws together 2 stats that are better than BA alone. It correlates fairly well to actually scoring runs, but it's missing some logic behind it. OPS+ takes things to the next level by normalizing it across the league by that years stats. You can compare a Coors Field darling to someone who plays in Detroit. Or you can compare the juiced balls of 2019 to the dead ones of 2022.

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Bag said:

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redline248 said:

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From MLB:

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OPS+ takes a player's on-base plus slugging percentage and normalizes the number across the entire league. It accounts for external factors like ballparks. It then adjusts so a score of 100 is league average, and 150 is 50 percent better than the league average.

For example, Miguel Cabrera's .895 OPS in 2014 was 50 percent better than the MLB average after being adjusted for league and park factors. As a result, his OPS+ was 150.

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thats cool, just curious what was so wrong about OPS that OPS+ fixes?

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OPS just throws together 2 stats that are better than BA alone. It correlates fairly well to actually scoring runs, but it's missing some logic behind it. OPS+ takes things to the next level by normalizing it across the league by that years stats. You can compare a Coors Field darling to someone who plays in Detroit. Or you can compare the juiced balls of 2019 to the dead ones of 2022.

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cheers, thanks, makes sense

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Bag said:

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redline248 said:

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From MLB:

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OPS+ takes a player's on-base plus slugging percentage and normalizes the number across the entire league. It accounts for external factors like ballparks. It then adjusts so a score of 100 is league average, and 150 is 50 percent better than the league average.

For example, Miguel Cabrera's .895 OPS in 2014 was 50 percent better than the MLB average after being adjusted for league and park factors. As a result, his OPS+ was 150.

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thats cool, just curious what was so wrong about OPS that OPS+ fixes?

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Well, OPS for Player A who faces pitchers from the Royals twice as many times as the rest of the AL might be higher than Player B who faces studs in the AL East or West more often.

OPS+ tries to take that sort of thing into account.

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I don't think that is quite accurate.

the unknown part is how does the Dominican treat its celebrities / famous baseball players

do they get preferential treatment in the D.R. legal system and so forth

over the course of his career, he would be bringing millions and millions and millions of dollars back to the D.R.

they might not want to ruin his MLB career in the states

Brantley went yard on his second AB last night.

if he can play down the stretch and Dusty figures out that the best catcher in the AL is the astros backup catcher, I like our chances

If Uncle Mike can return, what would be your lineup card? for me

Altuve
Pena
Tucker
Bregman
Yordan
Chas
Brantley
Diaz
Abreu/Singleton

that is a hella lineup

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the unknown part is how does the Dominican treat its celebrities / famous baseball players

do they get preferential treatment in the D.R. legal system and so forth

over the course of his career, he would be bringing millions and millions and millions of dollars back to the D.R.

they might not want to ruin his MLB career in the states

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Did all of this occur there? Does not change what we think here, but there are different standards there and what they may be ok with.

The biggest thing the + does is compare the player or others in the same league and season. In addition to telling you at a glance how good someone is compared to the league, it allows you to compare today's numbers to someone from the peak steroid era or to Ted Williams. They are agnostic to the "run environment," as it's called. Of course, when your name is Aaron Judge and your games get juiced baseballs, you effectively have 2 different run environments in the same league at the same time, but there's not a good way to adjust for Manfred's corruption.

As Farmer said, wRC+ is the king of all stats for production at the plate. If I recall, peak Dubon was batting around .300 (looks really good!) but his wRC+ was in the neighborhood of 100 (average) because he didn't walk enough or hit for any power. wRC/wRC+ gives you a succinct way to weigh all those factors.

one small nit with the broadcast crew...

sometimes they go on and on (and complain) about exit velocity on ground balls -- and don't talk about launch angle

as Josh Donaldson famously said in the MLB network video:

"ground balls in this league are outs"

that's a good question

the articles I've seen say the D.R. attorney general is doing the investigating

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redline248 said:

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redline248 said:

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From MLB:

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OPS+ takes a player's on-base plus slugging percentage and normalizes the number across the entire league. It accounts for external factors like ballparks. It then adjusts so a score of 100 is league average, and 150 is 50 percent better than the league average.

For example, Miguel Cabrera's .895 OPS in 2014 was 50 percent better than the MLB average after being adjusted for league and park factors. As a result, his OPS+ was 150.

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thats cool, just curious what was so wrong about OPS that OPS+ fixes?

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Well, OPS for Player A who faces pitchers from the Royals twice as many times as the rest of the AL might be higher than Player B who faces studs in the AL East or West more often.

OPS+ tries to take that sort of thing into account.

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I don't think that is quite accurate.

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I thought it was part of it.

redline248 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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redline248 said:

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Bag said:

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redline248 said:

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From MLB:

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OPS+ takes a player's on-base plus slugging percentage and normalizes the number across the entire league. It accounts for external factors like ballparks. It then adjusts so a score of 100 is league average, and 150 is 50 percent better than the league average.

For example, Miguel Cabrera's .895 OPS in 2014 was 50 percent better than the MLB average after being adjusted for league and park factors. As a result, his OPS+ was 150.

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thats cool, just curious what was so wrong about OPS that OPS+ fixes?

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Well, OPS for Player A who faces pitchers from the Royals twice as many times as the rest of the AL might be higher than Player B who faces studs in the AL East or West more often.

OPS+ tries to take that sort of thing into account.

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I don't think that is quite accurate.

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I thought it was part of it.

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this kind of highlights my thinking on all the new generation of stats, OPS made sense, easily to calculate and transparent.

Sometimes I lean towards feeling like paralysis by analysis with all the new gen sabermetrics

I'd say there is a lot of "buzz" to those stats

BadAggie said:

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Karl Malone had relations with a teen, as in 13 or 14 when he was at Southeastern Louisiana State School for the Deaf, Dumb, and Blind.

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I was just making a joke...