***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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EastCoastAgNc
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2:15p, 8/14/23
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So long back to back Yordan / Tucker
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2:16p, 8/14/23
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Tucker in the 2nd spot!
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 2:17p, 8/14/23
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I'm willing to sacrifice that for getting Tucker more ABs. Should be Tucker/Alvarez/Bregman, IMO
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2:18p, 8/14/23
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I'm still annoyed AF by lineup tinkering in mid August
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In reply to linkdude • 2:21p, 8/14/23
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linkdude said:
I'm willing to sacrifice that for getting Tucker more ABs. Should be Tucker/Alvarez/Bregman, IMO
You want Bregman's OBP in front of Tucker and/or Yordan.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 2:22p, 8/14/23
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EastCoastAgNc said:

So long back to back Yordan / Tucker
This is the most nerd-optimized lineup I have seen thus far.

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In reply to linkdude • 2:23p, 8/14/23
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linkdude said:
I'm willing to sacrifice that for getting Tucker more ABs. Should be Tucker/Alvarez/Bregman, IMO
Apparently, the #s say the 4 and 5 hole see more opportunities to drive in runs than the 3 hole.
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In reply to JDUB08AG • 2:23p, 8/14/23
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I'm still annoyed AF by lineup tinkering in mid August
I don't see the real purpose in the change. I like having Breggy batting before Tuck and Yordan. Oh well. Tinker to tinker I guess.
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2:23p, 8/14/23
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 2:24p, 8/14/23
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EastCoastAgNc said:
How badass would that be? Crane puts in the order mid-Aug so he can hand out championship rings on the field.
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2:26p, 8/14/23
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Tucker at 2 is something I've wanted for a while. So hopefully it works out
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2:26p, 8/14/23
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I'm impressed and a bit shocked. It has been pretty quiet for him while putting up those numbers.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:27p, 8/14/23
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linkdude said:
I'm willing to sacrifice that for getting Tucker more ABs. Should be Tucker/Alvarez/Bregman, IMO
Apparently, the #s say the 4 and 5 hole see more opportunities to drive in runs than the 3 hole.
I don't mind Alvarez in the 4 spot. I really like Tucker in the 2 spot. Just need Diaz in the line-up and I could roll with this one.
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 2:27p, 8/14/23
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bearkatag15 said:


I'm impressed and a bit shocked. It has been pretty quiet for him while putting up those numbers.


Probably due to him moving down in the lineup. Not as much pressure
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 2:28p, 8/14/23
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I'm impressed and a bit shocked. It has been pretty quiet for him while putting up those numbers.
He's looked a lot better to me. He's brought the toe-tap back since the ASB. Glad to see the numbers support it.

Would like to see a couple more HRs, but it's good to see him looking better at the plate.
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2:29p, 8/14/23
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Really need to get on them early, and then add on!
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2:31p, 8/14/23
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Of all the guys to leave… he's the one I cant root for.
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In reply to W • 2:34p, 8/14/23
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W said:
Mathguy64 said:



Ah. The "I swear officer she said she was 18" defense. Works every time.
for a famous athlete in the Dominican it might work.

it might be anything goes down there

I'm unaware of how laws work for a person within the US for something ongoing outside the US. Also I'd imagine if he got even 1 illicit photo etc while in the US his goose is cooked. Or the very least his visa rejected possibly
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 2:34p, 8/14/23
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he's had a bunch on infield singles in the last 2 weeks

those count too
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In reply to tjack16 • 2:36p, 8/14/23
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Of all the guys to leave… he's the one I cant root for.


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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:39p, 8/14/23
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Farmer1906 said:
EastCoastAgNc said:

So long back to back Yordan / Tucker
This is the most nerd-optimized lineup I have seen thus far.



Minus the most glaring analytical mistake…..Yainer on the bench and Maldy (the worst hitter in the league who makes up for it by being almost the worst catcher too) in the lineup.

But fan stuff doesn't factor in who the pitcher likes
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In reply to tjack16 • 2:40p, 8/14/23
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tjack16 said:


Of all the guys to leave… he's the one I cant root for.
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In reply to W • 2:40p, 8/14/23
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W said:
he's had a bunch on infield singles in the last 2 weeks

those count too
You're not wrong. He's solidly outperforming his batted balls in Aug. Altuve is too.

On the flipside, Yordan has had some wildly poor luck. He's hitting the ball like an MVP yet getting Dubon results.
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In reply to Proudag06 • 2:41p, 8/14/23
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Proudag06 said:
Farmer1906 said:
EastCoastAgNc said:

So long back to back Yordan / Tucker
This is the most nerd-optimized lineup I have seen thus far.



Minus the most glaring analytical mistake…..Yainer on the bench and Maldy (the worst hitter in the league who makes up for it by being almost the worst catcher too).

But fan stuff doesn't factor in who the pitcher likes
I am speaking more toward the order of the guys in the lineup.

Maldy catches for Framber. It is what it is.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:42p, 8/14/23
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I know. I know.
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2:42p, 8/14/23
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Serious question- why the hate towards Gerrit Cole? I've never really understood that. Not being critical, just asking. The way I see it, he pitched his ass off, was rightfully frustrated after the WS loss and then took the bigger contract. No hard feelings there.
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2:42p, 8/14/23
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since July 20th...

the Astros are a sparkling 12-1 in games in which Yainer starts

however on the bench for the second game-in-a-row
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 2:44p, 8/14/23
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texasaggie2015 said:
Serious question- why the hate towards Gerrit Cole? I've never really understood that. Not being critical, just asking. The way I see it, he pitched his ass off, was rightfully frustrated after the WS loss and then took the bigger contract. No hard feelings there.
I feel the same. He was lights out from June onward that season and was a lot of fun to watch.
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In reply to Beat40 • 2:45p, 8/14/23
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Beat40 said:
Farmer1906 said:
linkdude said:
I'm willing to sacrifice that for getting Tucker more ABs. Should be Tucker/Alvarez/Bregman, IMO
Apparently, the #s say the 4 and 5 hole see more opportunities to drive in runs than the 3 hole.
I don't mind Alvarez in the 4 spot. I really like Tucker in the 2 spot. Just need Diaz in the line-up and I could roll with this one.
Exactly.

2 best batting averages leading off, followed by a high on base / walk guy, followed by your slugger.

I'd rather Breggy 1, Altuve 2, Ted 3, Alverez 4, but outside of sitting Diaz, this isn't worth getting upset about.
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In reply to Mr President Elect • 2:46p, 8/14/23
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Mr President Elect said:
texasaggie2015 said:
Serious question- why the hate towards Gerrit Cole? I've never really understood that. Not being critical, just asking. The way I see it, he pitched his ass off, was rightfully frustrated after the WS loss and then took the bigger contract. No hard feelings there.
I feel the same. He was lights out from June onward that season and was a lot of fun to watch.
Eh, it's hard to feel sorry for a guy who supposedly took the money over a better team who isn't getting the support he claimed was the reason going. I'm sure it comes off as Karma from a lot of Astros fans who realized another stud pitcher could mean leading the division today.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 2:48p, 8/14/23
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I get being mad, but that was a selfish move at the end to make it about himself. He then signed with the Yankees so he's easy to hate. He's come off like a complete goober ever since. The whining about sticky stuff. The cringey finger wag.
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In reply to AgLA06 • 2:48p, 8/14/23
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99% of fans who get mad at a player for taking the bigger contract would do the exact same thing
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 2:49p, 8/14/23
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there's a gracious way to leave an organization...and a not so gracious way

he chose the wrong path
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:49p, 8/14/23
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Yeah, I suppose I get it.. I guess it just doesn't bother me as much as most.
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In reply to AgLA06 • 2:49p, 8/14/23
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And he's a Jankee and I hate them all. Literally anyone who signs there I will actively root against because you caved and went to the dark side.

Add that to his exit from here and….don't let the door hit ya where the lord split ya
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