Fox official on Scherzer
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EastCoastAgNc said:BadAggie said:EastCoastAgNc said:The #Mets are covering all but $22.5 million owed to Scherzer, per @martinonyc https://t.co/2iv7TnZ4aR
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) July 30, 2023Max Scherzer retains his ability to opt out of his contract at the end of this season, per source.
— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) July 30, 2023
Wonder what they'll cover for JV
Covered all but $22m for the contract that runs out either end of this year or next year if he picks up his option in exchange for their #2 prospect (in the top 100 protect list). JV has 2 1/2 years left, so they will want big prospect capital in return to cover money. I don't know that we have what it takes
But it also gets more money off their books. They might take a box of balls.
So Texas gets $22.5MM. That covers Max for the rest of the season and leaves about $8M extra. If he sticks around next year Texas will add $33MM in salary. Otherwise Texas pockets the extra $8MM.
So the Rangers get Max and get his salary covered for a minor leaguer?
Something doesn't sound right.
So the Rangers get Max and get his salary covered for a minor leaguer?
Something doesn't sound right.
Mathguy64 said:
So Texas gets $22.5MM. That covers Max for the rest of the season and leaves about $8M extra. If he sticks around next year Texas will add $33MM in salary. Otherwise Texas pockets the extra $8MM.
So the Rangers get Max and get his salary covered for a minor leaguer?
Something doesn't sound right.
Max is declining and this minor leaguer is very good.
If he confirms his player option for next year are they able to use all $22 million towards next year and not this year? Big luxury tax implications for next year
Mathguy64 said:
So Texas gets $22.5MM. That covers Max for the rest of the season and leaves about $8M extra. If he sticks around next year Texas will add $33MM in salary. Otherwise Texas pockets the extra $8MM.
So the Rangers get Max and get his salary covered for a minor leaguer?
Something doesn't sound right.
I can almost guarantee you in 3 years the rangers are gonna have max regrets when Acuña is in the major leagues and looking like his brother
Edit: meant to type mad regrets but I'll leave it there because that works too
Farmer1906 said:Mathguy64 said:
So Texas gets $22.5MM. That covers Max for the rest of the season and leaves about $8M extra. If he sticks around next year Texas will add $33MM in salary. Otherwise Texas pockets the extra $8MM.
So the Rangers get Max and get his salary covered for a minor leaguer?
Something doesn't sound right.
Max is declining and this minor leaguer is very good.
Would you send Gilbert to the Mets for JV if they covered all his salary this year and 1/3 of it next year?
It feels like that's what the Rangers just did.
Not sure Gilbert is quite the prospect Acuña is.
C'mon Hunter finish this
...but they'll still have 2 super expensive, aging middle infielders to keep them warmmAgnoliAg said:Mathguy64 said:
So Texas gets $22.5MM. That covers Max for the rest of the season and leaves about $8M extra. If he sticks around next year Texas will add $33MM in salary. Otherwise Texas pockets the extra $8MM.
So the Rangers get Max and get his salary covered for a minor leaguer?
Something doesn't sound right.
I can almost guarantee you in 3 years the rangers are gonna have max regrets when Acuña is in the major leagues and looking like his brother
Edit: meant to type mad regrets but I'll leave it there because that works too
Mathguy64 said:Farmer1906 said:Mathguy64 said:
So Texas gets $22.5MM. That covers Max for the rest of the season and leaves about $8M extra. If he sticks around next year Texas will add $33MM in salary. Otherwise Texas pockets the extra $8MM.
So the Rangers get Max and get his salary covered for a minor leaguer?
Something doesn't sound right.
Max is declining and this minor leaguer is very good.
Would you send Gilbert to the Mets for JV if they covered all his salary this year and 1/3 of it next year?
It feels like that's what the Rangers just did.
Not a chance.
There is a not zero chance Max opts out.
"The Mets are also working on a deal with the Astros, who would love to have Verlander back" per @BNightengale pic.twitter.com/aprKaGQKlH
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) July 30, 2023
Farmer1906 said:"The Mets are also working on a deal with the Astros, who would love to have Verlander back" per @BNightengale pic.twitter.com/aprKaGQKlH
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) July 30, 2023
Do it.
Mathguy64 said:Farmer1906 said:Mathguy64 said:
So Texas gets $22.5MM. That covers Max for the rest of the season and leaves about $8M extra. If he sticks around next year Texas will add $33MM in salary. Otherwise Texas pockets the extra $8MM.
So the Rangers get Max and get his salary covered for a minor leaguer?
Something doesn't sound right.
Max is declining and this minor leaguer is very good.
Would you send Gilbert to the Mets for JV if they covered all his salary this year and 1/3 of it next year?
It feels like that's what the Rangers just did.
Nope
Especially not for what essentially could end up a rental for an old pitcher with an 4+ ERA and recent history of late season injuries (re Max)
significant portion is probably in the neighborhood of $18 MM
to get the cost for JV next year down to $25 MM
to get the cost for JV next year down to $25 MM
FWIW...I'd have been much more concerned if they'd have landed JV or Snell.
Let us not forget Diaz has Hunter with a shutout right now. Dusty is a complete ****ing idiot for still playing Maldy. He deserves one game a week just to give Diaz a break.
I normally hate piling on coaches but gd if it ain't obvious who the better catcher is.
I normally hate piling on coaches but gd if it ain't obvious who the better catcher is.
CFTXAG10 said:
So basically Scherzer gets to walk at the end of the season, which he will
I dunno...... I don't see him getting 43 million from anyone unless he has a randy Johnson 98 run
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
How do these things apply to the luxury tax though.
I know when you backload a guys contract that doesn't apply it's only an average of their total vs years…how does someone else paying effect those totals
I know when you backload a guys contract that doesn't apply it's only an average of their total vs years…how does someone else paying effect those totals
W said:
significant portion is probably in the neighborhood of $18 MM
to get the cost for JV next year down to $25 MM
Since most of the draft penalization is gone from the luxury tax violations, I would hope Crane takes the full amount for the rest of this year. Enters the tax just once. Then have the Mets help out for 24 and potentially 25. That's goes into when we'll have to pay for Altuve/Bregman.
And instead of the 1 mega prospect, build a package around two to three tier 2 prospects.
Anxiously awaiting the Scherzer arm fatigue
I don't think it's about the money but more of 'Im not sure I wanna be in Arlington so I want the option to leave'.
Ag_07 said:
FWIW...I'd have been much more concerned if they'd have landed JV or Snell.
Snell and Hader is what worried me the most.
I missed it, why is Tucker so mad?
Mr.Bond said:CFTXAG10 said:
So basically Scherzer gets to walk at the end of the season, which he will
I dunno...... I don't see him getting 43 million from anyone unless he has a randy Johnson 98 run
No, but maybe someone is willing to give him 3 years at 30 M per.
90 M might be > 43 M + future earnings at 40.
Full details of the trade, per ESPN sources:
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) July 30, 2023
Texas receives Max Scherzer
New York receives 21-year-old shortstop Luisangel Acuña, the brother of Atlanta star Ronald Acuña Jr.
Scherzer opts in to 2024.
The Rangers will pay Scherzer $22.5M. The Mets will cover $35M-plus.
Max Scherzer exercised his option for 2024. He is now locked in at $43.33M for next season with the Rangers.
— Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) July 30, 2023
Bregman walks
No more player option. He will be in Arlington next year
I need a Yordonger fix.
Yordan singles
109 mph ground ball
109 mph ground ball
Am I the only immature person that saw F*****r Tucker when he came up against Faucher?
Abreu may be back (again)
3-run oppo jack
3-run oppo jack
Oppo taco no less
Yordonger. Captain Lou. Close enough I guess
Based on how they have described the money coming to the rangers, I would think he's already agreed to opt in.
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