Urquidy hasn't even pitched for the big league club after his injury, not sure how you can pencil him into the rotation yet for the playoffs. I love Javier but he hasn't been the same. We need a 2 or better SP to come in and set the rotation. Verlander would be ideal.Ag_07 said:
Framber, Javier, and Urquidy have plenty of playoff experience. Hell they have more playoff experience and success than JV. Brown has had some now too.
Now they have to pitch better than they are now but experience is one thing we aren't lacking.
It's actually the one thing that makes us dangerous once we get in.
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But it's all about value
He wasn't going to be any more than a backup catcher for us after being passed by Yanier.
He was expendable.
He wasn't going to be any more than a backup catcher for us after being passed by Yanier.
He was expendable.
redline248 said:What's the average length of time to go from drafted to the pros? Lee is 23 and had only 26 major league plate appearances. It's early to call him a bust , imo.BadAggie said:
F The Athletic
Astros got a MLB reliever
White Sox got a draft bust
Astros A
White Sox F-
Will he be a perennial all star? I doubt it, but he could be a solid player.
He might be 23 if he's using Jose Abreu's birth certificate. He's actually 25 already and nowhere near ready to start in the majors.
I agree. I was just speaking to the assertion that we lack experience.
Maybe he could get us a W in the WSGoodBullShark said:Urquidy hasn't even pitched for the big league club after his injury, not sure how you can pencil him into the rotation yet for the playoffs. I love Javier but he hasn't been the same. We need a 2 or better SP to come in and set the rotation. Verlander would be ideal.Ag_07 said:
Framber, Javier, and Urquidy have plenty of playoff experience. Hell they have more playoff experience and success than JV. Brown has had some now too.
Now they have to pitch better than they are now but experience is one thing we aren't lacking.
It's actually the one thing that makes us dangerous once we get in.
Lee just turned 25 three days ago.
Quote:
Lee was a first-round pick in 2021 and a top prospect before becoming strikeout-prone in the upper minors. He is still quite young, only 23, and still has a solid ceiling. That feels like a strong return for a good but far from overwhelming reliever.
Astros: B
This is embarrassing for whoever wrote this. I don't expect writers know every minor league player, but if you're in charge of a blurb about a trade at least do 5 min of research.
Maldy Catching and no Diaz again… Yordon DH
Why not just trade Diaz! We could get a ton for him and Dusty won't play him anyway!!! Wtf man
Why not just trade Diaz! We could get a ton for him and Dusty won't play him anyway!!! Wtf man
Gig 'Em and God Bless
Astros lineup pic.twitter.com/casJNAqHR9
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) July 28, 2023
Putting Abreu behind Yordan is one of the most brain-dead stupid things Dusty can possibly do. They're just gonna walk Yordan to get to the automatic out / double play.
I am sure a sick Maldonado will do great.
We're ****ing idiots batting Yordan 5th.
Maldonado fixin to have his Jordan game.
Bulldog73 said:
Maldonado fixin to have his Jordan game.
Lol
Ag_07 said:
If we end making 2 more moves there will be some MLers on the move.
There's just not enough room
The Meyers, Julks fanbase needs to be prepared
I agree with that, I'm just saying no one has "seen him enough" to knowAg_07 said:
But it's all about value
He wasn't going to be any more than a backup catcher for us after being passed by Yanier.
He was expendable.
Farmer1906 said:
We're ****ing idiots batting Yordan 5th.
— Apollo Dez (@ApolloDez1) July 28, 2023
Yordan & Chas are in the bottom half of the lineup…unreal. Your best hitter and your hottest hitter
We?Farmer1906 said:
We're ****ing idiots batting Yordan 5th.
Imagine if we acquired Shohei. Dusty would probably bat him 2nd, but then he can't put lefties together so either Yordan or Tucker would bat 6thFarmer1906 said:
We're ****ing idiots batting Yordan 5th.
redline248 said:I agree with that, I'm just saying no one has "seen him enough" to knowAg_07 said:
But it's all about value
He wasn't going to be any more than a backup catcher for us after being passed by Yanier.
He was expendable.
He has almost 1400 PA in the minors with a .763 OPS. Almost 800 PA in AAA with a .759 OPS. His best season in the minors was .790 last year. Keep in mind the PCL is a hitter paradise. His wRC+ the last 3 seasons in AAA were 45, 90, 76.
This has to be Dusty's sick way of easing Yordan back into form.
WTF?!?!
WTF?!?!
If Maldy is under the weather, surely we could afford to let Diaz catch CJ. Ffs
Farmer1906 said:
We're ****ing idiots batting Yordan 5th.
We?
One idiot.
redline248 said:Imagine if we acquired Shohei. Dusty would probably bat him 2nd, but then he can't put lefties together so either Yordan or Tucker would bat 6thFarmer1906 said:
We're ****ing idiots batting Yordan 5th.
On nights when he pitched, dusty would have Jake meyers DH for him.
CSWendt said:
I find it hard to believe we will make 2 more moves with one being a splash move. We just don't have the farm system to go get multiple big names, especially given a sellers market. We need to have the expectation of one more move, MAYBE two if they are small, cheap players. Teams can just offer much better prospects than us for guys like JV, Bellinger, Hader, Snell, etc.
That's why I think the whole "be aggressive" talk coming out was just noise. Sounded good, and it certainly fit Crane's past MO, but the lack depth on the farm finally caught up to the Astros. Just a guess.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
I am so done with Dumbass Dusty. Absolute potato brain.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
And the insane seller's market hurts even worse.
.170
What a joke
What a joke
I think the caveat was being aggressive without being stupid. The Padres were ultra aggressive in free agency. Is that what we want? Looks pretty stupid from where I am sitting and they're at the front end of a lot of bad contracts.
The fact we heard rumors from nation writers on Cease & Verlander mean we were aggressive in asking. I am sure 20+ teams asked about them too but we were named. I would guess that means we offered a large package. Was it enough? No & not yet. But I think it was more than just blowing smoke.
I want to go back to being the smartest club, making savvy moves. If we play it right, this Graveman move should work. If we stack 2 more similar trades then I think we can call this a success.
The fact we heard rumors from nation writers on Cease & Verlander mean we were aggressive in asking. I am sure 20+ teams asked about them too but we were named. I would guess that means we offered a large package. Was it enough? No & not yet. But I think it was more than just blowing smoke.
I want to go back to being the smartest club, making savvy moves. If we play it right, this Graveman move should work. If we stack 2 more similar trades then I think we can call this a success.
You can't let the rangers get verlander. Might be the deciding factor in who wins the decision.
Jet Black said:
You can't let the rangers get verlander.
Well that's not up to us
Ag_07 said:Jet Black said:
You can't let the rangers get verlander.
Well that's not up to us
It's pretty much up to JV because of his no trade clause
It is if you pull a Vic Mackey and kidnap Verlander and keep him in a hotel room until the trade deadline passes.Ag_07 said:Jet Black said:
You can't let the rangers get verlander.
Well that's not up to us
Farmer1906 said:
I think the caveat was being aggressive without being stupid. The Padres were ultra aggressive in free agency. Is that what we want? Looks pretty stupid from where I am sitting and they're at the front end of a lot of bad contracts.
The fact we heard rumors from nation writers on Cease & Verlander mean we were aggressive in asking. I am sure 20+ teams asked about them too but we were named. I would guess that means we offered a large package. Was it enough? No & not yet. But I think it was more than just blowing smoke.
I want to go back to being the smartest club, making savvy moves. If we play it right, this Graveman move should work. If we stack 2 more similar trades then I think we can call this a success.
Not saying a trade is smart or not, only that the Astros don't have the chips to swim in deep water this year.
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