***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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Been discussed a bunch and the consensus is that these are professionals who at the end of the day want to win.

It wouldn't be a problem.
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txags11 said:

I don't want anything to do with Bellinger. I don't worry as much about on the field with him as I do in the clubhouse. After 2017 and his comments how are our guys gonna want him in the clubhouse
I've said this before and I'll say it 100 times if I need to. It will not be a problem in the clubhouse.

I'm not saying I want Bellinger.. but if they get him, there will be zero issues.
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Anyone that has been part of any team has had a dewsh teammate they came to live because he could ball & helped the team. He's a novice-level dummy and no worse. Nothing even like Aroldis, who apparently Dusty recruited hard this offseason.
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If anything, I think adding Bellinger could be a positive for national optics. He'd inevitably be asked about 2017 and would have to declare that it was in the past and it's time to move on. Not that I care much about national optics but it's something to consider.
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so with Bellinger. Who is he replacing in this line-up? Jake? Chas? Julks?
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Rockies starting Chase Anderson and his 6.50 ERA today

he's bad
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Deluxe said:

If anything, I think adding Bellinger could be a positive for national optics. He'd inevitably be asked about 2017 and would have to declare that it was in the past and it's time to move on. Not that I care much about national optics but it's something to consider.
I'm against it because his stats do not show that he'd be a worthwhile addition. Other than being a left-hander, how is he any different than Julks offensively?
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MAROON said:

so with Bellinger. Who is he replacing in this line-up? Jake? Chas? Julks?
If they were to hypothetically get him, he could play any outfield position, first base, and also DH. He would rotate around and keep guys fresh.

Also at least one of the guys you mentioned likely won't be on the roster after the deadline.
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yep - same question.

Plus Julks $700k contract with control, Bellinger $25mil total salary for 23/24. Not seeing that value in Bellinger
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MAROON said:

so with Bellinger. Who is he replacing in this line-up? Jake? Chas? Julks?
Ideally he would start vs RHP, but I don't know if we'd pencil him in CF, 1B or DH...maybe LF? If CF then Chas could still play in LF, but things will get a little tight once Yordan gets back in there.

Potential?

Altuve 2B
Bregman 3B
Yordan LF/DH
Abreu 1B
Tucker RF
Diaz C
Bellenger CF/DH
Pena SS
Chas LF/CF
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Bellinger doesn't make sense because he isn't the righty killer we need. Would love to get a guy like Fraley who crushes righties.
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redline248 said:

MAROON said:

so with Bellinger. Who is he replacing in this line-up? Jake? Chas? Julks?
Ideally he would start vs RHP, but I don't know if we'd pencil him in CF, 1B or DH...maybe LF? If CF then Chas could still play in LF, but things will get a little tight once Yordan gets back in there.

Potential?

Altuve 2B
Bregman 3B
Yordan LF/DH
Abreu 1B
Tucker RF
Diaz C
Bellenger CF/DH
Pena SS
Chas LF/CF
And you didn't even list Dubon. If he keeps playing the way he is/has, you have to include him in the mix.
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W said:

Rockies starting Chase Anderson and his 6.50 ERA today

he's bad
Damnit man... now he's going to throw 7 shutty vs this lineup
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This is the first game I've been to in 3 seasons where Maldy isn't starting.
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That's a shame considering I'm sure you'll be wearing your Maldy jersey
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Simple question for the board... what does Bellinger add to the team?
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
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Versatility. That's why Houston wanted him. Keep in mind out of these guys that are being mentioned (Chas, Jake, Julks) at least one of them won't be on the roster later in the year.

I'm not saying I want Bellinger, but his ability to bat lefty and play multiple positions is why Houston is intrigued by him.
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MaxPower said:

Bellinger doesn't make sense because he isn't the righty killer we need. Would love to get a guy like Fraley who crushes righties.

Agreed. Bellinger hasn't sniffed a .700 OPS against RHP since 2020.

I don't get it.
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What an albatross of a contract Kris Bryant is now. Used to be one of my favorite players but man...... dudes fallen off
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


MAGA

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Mr.Bond said:

What an albatross of a contract Kris Bryant is now. Used to be one of my favorite players but man...... dudes fallen off

I watched a game yesterday and saw him bat. I had completely forgotten about the guy.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
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Marvin said:

Simple question for the board... what does Bellinger add to the team?
Ideally, he would bring:
  • Another option at Frist
  • Plus Outfield Defense
  • But mainly a bat to crush RHP

Now does he actually bring that last one? He's a career 121 wRC+ vs RHP. Not showing it in 2023 though.
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IMO the offense isn't an issue now that Abreu has come around, Dubon has proven to not be flash in the pan, Diaz has flashed, and add in Yordan when he gets back.

The only way to efficiently upgrade is if it's a full time bat in a deal that includes ML guys. A platoon bat like Bellinger just isn't worth it. We have capable guys who can platoon that are cheap and won't cost prospects.

Either go for the big bat that inserts directly into the lineup full time or roll with what we got offensively and bulk up the starting rotation and BP.
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Farmer1906 said:

Marvin said:

Simple question for the board... what does Bellinger add to the team?
Ideally, he would bring:
  • Another option at Frist
  • Plus Outfield Defense
  • But mainly a bat to crush RHP

Now does he actually bring that last one? He's a career 121 wRC+ vs RHP. Not showing it in 2023 though.

He'd better, because you know Old School would pencil him in the lineup every RHP game.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
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Chas hits RHP better than Bellinger, this year
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texasaggie2015 said:

That's a shame considering I'm sure you'll be wearing your Maldy jersey


They had a WS champs Maldy jersey on sale at academy for 50% off a few weeks ago

First time I've ever passed on a current player jersey that cheap
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Ag_07 said:

The only way to efficiently upgrade is if it's a full time bat in a deal that includes ML guys.
FWIW- this is a very real possibility
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You ever hear anything further on the inquiry about Robert?
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Ag_07 said:

IMO the offense isn't an issue now that Abreu has come around, Dubon has proven to not be flash in the pan, Diaz has flashed, and add in Yordan when he gets back.

The only way to efficiently upgrade is if it's a full time bat in a deal that includes ML guys. A platoon bat like Bellinger just isn't worth it. We have capable guys who can platoon that are cheap and won't cost prospects.

Either go for the big bat that inserts directly into the lineup full time or roll with what we got offensively and bulk up the starting rotation and BP.
The offense is working now. TED, Chas, Abreu, & Julks have been tearing the ball off the cover lately. But that won't continue. We're down Altuve again and Yordan.

Overall, this team is pretty average vs RHP.
vs RHP: 101 wRC+, 14th overall
vs LHP: 110 wRC+, 6th overall

We could take a left fielder like Julks (wRC+ of 93 vs RHP) and replace it with 127 (Joc) or 138 (Alex) vs RHP. That would do wonders and wouldn't cost you the farm.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Ag_07 said:

The only way to efficiently upgrade is if it's a full time bat in a deal that includes ML guys.
FWIW- this is a very real possibility
What is an "ML guy"?
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I tend to think that would be the case. Winning at the end of the day is what all 40 dudes in that clubhouse want. Say your peace and let bygones be bygones and let's go win a ship! If he can help us achieve that then let's go!
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Someone on the 26-man roster

And do you really expect Dusty to platoon correctly? That's another issue when discussing acquiring a platoon bat.
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I was just looking at Verdugo. I know he has played LF in the past, but he hasn't done it once this year. I don't know what affect that would have on him, if any.
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Currently on the ML roster
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Ag_07 said:

You ever hear anything further on the inquiry about Robert?
I have not actually.
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redline248 said:

I was just looking at Verdugo. I know he has played LF in the past, but he hasn't done it once this year. I don't know what affect that would have on him, if any.
I think it has more to do with Yoshida's defense. If you can handle a large RF with weird angles at Fenway then you can handle LF at MMP.

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