I didn't get to watch today. How did Dubon look at first? Any challenge plays come his way?

Mitch Meluskey… I thought we had something there

Hah. Did I leave that part out?

I wonder if Dana will be in STL to look at some players to pick. Flaherty would be a good get but don't know what we'd have to give up…

Probably not as much as you think. He hasn't been great this year.

Farmer1906 said:

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Probably not as much as you think. He hasn't been great this year.

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May be ripe for a cheap picking then. I think he'd make a good 4. New scenery, team, etc

Over the last 2 seasons (he's been slightly worse in 23) he has a 4.73 ERA, 4.44 FIP, 1.603 WHIP, 89 ERA+.

Seems like a move for the sake of making a move. While I wouldn't mind another solid SP, seems pointless by itself. This team's issue is hitting. If you aren't addressing that then just ride it out and hope for the best.

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Seems like a move for the sake of making a move. While I wouldn't mind another solid SP, seems pointless by itself. This team's issue is hitting. If you aren't addressing that then just ride it out and hope for the best.

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Ok, trade for Flaherty and Goldschmidt.

Farmer1906 said:

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Over the last 2 seasons (he's been slightly worse in 23) he has a 4.73 ERA, 4.44 FIP, 1.603 WHIP, 89 ERA+.

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Yeah, I don't get the love with Flaherty. Maybe as a short term free agent signing if you need a 4/5, but at the trade deadline needing a solid #3 arm? No way.

Maybe we want the Jose Abreu version of a starter.

Because he was a stud rookie and ace for a season before falling off and staying injured.

Farmer1906 said:

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Because he was a stud rookie and ace for a season before falling off and staying injured.

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So a more accomplished Whitley?

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Farmer1906 said:

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Over the last 2 seasons (he's been slightly worse in 23) he has a 4.73 ERA, 4.44 FIP, 1.603 WHIP, 89 ERA+.

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Yeah, I don't get the love with Flaherty. Maybe as a short term free agent signing if you need a 4/5, but at the trade deadline needing a solid #3 arm? No way.

Maybe we want the Jose Abreu version of a starter.

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We're looking to trade for a solid #3 SP??? This is the first time I've seen this mentioned here. I think a solid 4/5 that can also provide long relief help. No?

I hope we're trading for someone worthy of completing with Brown, France, & Urquidy for the 3/4 playoff rotation spot.

Farmer1906 said:

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I hope we're trading for someone worthy of completing with Brown, France, & Urquidy for the 3/4 playoff rotation spot.

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If the Red Sox fall enough to sell, James Paxton would be a good one to look at. He's having a decent year and on a 1 year deal

Offer Jake and a prospect for Jack Flaherty. That's what I'd do

Farmer1906 said:

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I hope we're trading for someone worthy of completing with Brown, France, & Urquidy for the 3/4 playoff rotation spot.

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I would rather spend trade capital on an impact bat (or two) than on a #3. Yes, would be great to get both but a bat has to be the priority. Paying a premium for a SP that can be a #3 here won't be cheap. Everyone will be looking for that.

Hopefully the choice is not either or. I think the supply of mid tier arms are much more readily available than impact bats.

If we get an impact bat where do you put it?

I think Yordan, Tucker, Altuve, Bregman, & Pena are locks to stay in their roles. We don't need Chas & Yainer to have their roles reduced. They need more if anything. That's 7 guys right there. Abreu & Maldy are not going to be fully phased out. That leaves Dubon, Meyers, & Julks on the bench and potentially Brantley.