Gilbert strikes me as a bregman / Springer hybrid in terms of swag and energy. I don't know that he'll ever be a superstar but he will be a key cog for this team and a leader.Bag said:
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tennessee-football/drew-gilbert-former-vols-standout-earns-high-praise-from-astros-star-jose-altuve-hes-ready-man/
Altuve sez Gilbert is ready
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This is a great point! I remember when we acquired him nobody thought he would be batting cleanup for us...and that's the "good" Abreu who had been raking for the White Sox. The fact that he's in the 4 hole between Yordan and Tucker is ****ing mind blowing.HarryRocket said:
I wonder what the record is for fewest extra base hits from the cleanup spot in the last 30 years. We will break that this year easily if Abreau isn't moved for good soon.
Even at what we were expecting, he's a 6th hole on this team.
I agree with the poster who said every opposing manager should be instructing his pitchers to essentially unintentionally intentionally walk Yordan each trip to the plate.
Prosperdick said:This is a great point! I remember when we acquired him nobody thought he would be batting cleanup for us...and that's the "good" Abreu who had been raking for the White Sox. The fact that he's in the 4 hole between Yordan and Tucker is ****ing mind blowing.HarryRocket said:
I wonder what the record is for fewest extra base hits from the cleanup spot in the last 30 years. We will break that this year easily if Abreau isn't moved for good soon.
Even at what we were expecting, he's a 6th hole on this team.
I agree with the poster who said every opposing manager should be instructing his pitchers to essentially unintentionally intentionally walk Yordan each trip to the plate.
I never once even considered going into this year that we would see Alvarez/Tucker back to back because of the lefty lefty situation so wouldn't say nobody
We did however talk about how we wondered what we would do with the lineup because it seems crazy to have him 6th or lower also because he has always been a cleanup hitter.
I'm not saying he should be there now, but your statement is revisionist.
Also I love how we can complain so much after a solid win and in the middle or a great winning streak.
All of this actual baseball talk is great and all, but may I respectfully ask where the AOFA and TOFA posts are? I want this win streak to continue and believe with all my heart they are part of the magic. Thanks in advance.
Take it for for what it's worth, but here's my thoughts. Baseball is a long season and things even out over the long haul. Our bats will come around in general even though it may not be our best offensive year. Abreu aside, we're sitting pretty and things are only looking up from here.
I'm guessing by the Allstar break we're back in front of the division while the Rangers fizzle in the dog days of summer while reality hits. And unless something changes both wildcards could come out of the AL East division. Leaving them wondering what happened to their playoff chances.
I'm guessing by the Allstar break we're back in front of the division while the Rangers fizzle in the dog days of summer while reality hits. And unless something changes both wildcards could come out of the AL East division. Leaving them wondering what happened to their playoff chances.
The conversations I was a part of during preseason is how do you decide who bats 6/7 between Peña, Brantley, Abreu, with Chaz 8 and Maldy 9. Maybe you weren't here then but it was definitely the sentiment of this board that either Peña or Brantley would be in 2 hole and the other plus Abreu would be 6/7.
Don't think it is revisionist history but feel free to dig it up in offseason thread if you'd like
Don't think it is revisionist history but feel free to dig it up in offseason thread if you'd like
Woooof Dodgers just lost on a really terrible called strike 3 lol. Such a shame
There are three wild card spots now.
AgLA06 said:
Take it for for what it's worth, but here's my thoughts. Baseball is a long season and things even out over the long haul. Our bats will come around in general even though it may not be our best offensive year. Abreu aside, we're sitting pretty and things are only looking up from here.
I'm guessing by the Allstar break we're back in front of the division while the Rangers fizzle in the dog days of summer while reality hits. And unless something changes both wildcards could come out of the AL East division. Leaving them wondering what happened to their playoff chances.
The Rangers were my surprise team going into this season. They have a really good offense and added some good starting pitching. Their bullpen is really bad, but if they're anywhere near contention for a playoff spot, they will add at the deadline.
The question for them is does DeGrom stay healthy and does Eavoldi regress? If those two things done happen, they could be a thorn if our offense doesn't start to pick it up.
Out of 33 qualified 1B in MLB, Jose Abreu ranks:
33 WAR (-0.9)
33 SLG (.265)
33 xwOBA (.265)
33 wRC+ (52)
FIFTY. TWO! That's 21 points lower than the guy in 32nd.
...and yet he ranks 16th in Plate Appearances
He also ranks tied for 4th in ground ball % at almost half his ABs (48.4%) and 2nd in soft hit % (24.2%)
This dude cannot hit 4th in our lineup.
By the way, he is in the 38th percentile for Outs Above Average, is slow (12th percentile) and can't throw (4th percentile arm strength)
But, as we all know, this is fan stuff.
33 WAR (-0.9)
33 SLG (.265)
33 xwOBA (.265)
33 wRC+ (52)
FIFTY. TWO! That's 21 points lower than the guy in 32nd.
...and yet he ranks 16th in Plate Appearances
He also ranks tied for 4th in ground ball % at almost half his ABs (48.4%) and 2nd in soft hit % (24.2%)
This dude cannot hit 4th in our lineup.
By the way, he is in the 38th percentile for Outs Above Average, is slow (12th percentile) and can't throw (4th percentile arm strength)
But, as we all know, this is fan stuff.
jkag89 said:
There are three wild card spots now.
Let's just give it to him anyway- Rangerettes still won't make it.
redline248 said:
Out of 33 qualified 1B in MLB, Jose Abreu ranks:
33 WAR (-0.9)
33 SLG (.265)
33 xwOBA (.265)
33 wRC+ (52)
FIFTY. TWO! That's 21 points lower than the guy in 32nd.
...and yet he ranks 16th in Plate Appearances
He also ranks tied for 4th in ground ball % at almost half his ABs (48.4%) and 2nd in soft hit % (24.2%)
This dude cannot hit 4th in our lineup.
By the way, he is in the 38th percentile for Outs Above Average, is slow (12th percentile) and can't throw (4th percentile arm strength)
But, as we all know, this is fan stuff.
I bet Dusty gives him until after the ASB... say August. I doubt he moves before then, especially if the team stays on this trajectory.
Lonestar_Ag09 said:Prosperdick said:This is a great point! I remember when we acquired him nobody thought he would be batting cleanup for us...and that's the "good" Abreu who had been raking for the White Sox. The fact that he's in the 4 hole between Yordan and Tucker is ****ing mind blowing.HarryRocket said:
I wonder what the record is for fewest extra base hits from the cleanup spot in the last 30 years. We will break that this year easily if Abreau isn't moved for good soon.
Even at what we were expecting, he's a 6th hole on this team.
I agree with the poster who said every opposing manager should be instructing his pitchers to essentially unintentionally intentionally walk Yordan each trip to the plate.
Also I love how we can complain so much after a solid win and in the middle or a great winning streak.
"Solid win"??? We won by 1 run at home against arguably the worst team in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT. Yordan AGAIN saved Dusty the criticism he so deserves. Again, in spite of, not because of.
redline248 said:
Out of 33 qualified 1B in MLB, Jose Abreu ranks:
33 WAR (-0.9)
33 SLG (.265)
33 xwOBA (.265)
33 wRC+ (52)
FIFTY. TWO! That's 21 points lower than the guy in 32nd.
...and yet he ranks 16th in Plate Appearances
He also ranks tied for 4th in ground ball % at almost half his ABs (48.4%) and 2nd in soft hit % (24.2%)
This dude cannot hit 4th in our lineup.
By the way, he is in the 38th percentile for Outs Above Average, is slow (12th percentile) and can't throw (4th percentile arm strength)
But, as we all know, this is fan stuff.
So if dusty moves Abreu to 8th, that means we will mostly have a bottom of the lineup that is literally a black hole with Maldy/Abreu. At what point do we sit Abreu for Dubon?
redline248 said:
Out of 33 qualified 1B in MLB, Jose Abreu ranks:
33 WAR (-0.9)
33 SLG (.265)
33 xwOBA (.265)
33 wRC+ (52)
FIFTY. TWO! That's 21 points lower than the guy in 32nd.
...and yet he ranks 16th in Plate Appearances
He also ranks tied for 4th in ground ball % at almost half his ABs (48.4%) and 2nd in soft hit % (24.2%)
This dude cannot hit 4th in our lineup.
By the way, he is in the 38th percentile for Outs Above Average, is slow (12th percentile) and can't throw (4th percentile arm strength)
But, as we all know, this is fan stuff.
The reporters need to ask him point blank, why is your weakest hitting non catcher (since he won't play Diaz…if he did we wouldn't need that qualifier) batting cleanup?
Don't even bring up the splitting of left handed hitters…just focus on why is your weakest hitter, minus Maldy, batting 4th in this lineup. Please Dusty, enlighten us with your years of wisdom you ****ing dumb ass donkey.
Dubon at first? That's s ridiculous, you can't have a first baseman with no power at all!
Oh wait…
Oh wait…
JB!98 said:
All of this actual baseball talk is great and all, but may I respectfully ask where the AOFA and TOFA posts are? I want this win streak to continue and believe with all my heart they are part of the magic. Thanks in advance.
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Abreau looks like a guy who quit juicing and let the old man in at the same time
As soon as we resigned Brantley Dusty said when he's healthy he would be in the two hole. Anything beyond that was mute
I learned long ago that when Dusty says something it's true for some reason or in some way, might disagree but when he says it believe him.
As far as me being around….been here daily for 6-7yr or so, not sure what to tell ya on that.
I learned long ago that when Dusty says something it's true for some reason or in some way, might disagree but when he says it believe him.
As far as me being around….been here daily for 6-7yr or so, not sure what to tell ya on that.
I'm at the point I'm ready to ***** about the fans *****ing at fans for *****ing about the lineup cards.
the Blue Jays (25-21) are scuffling
it's their turn to occupy the basement in the AL East
it's their turn to occupy the basement in the AL East
W said:
the Blue Jays (25-21) are scuffling
it's their turn to occupy the basement in the AL East
Yet they have a better record than the first place twins. The central is garbage.
redline248 said:
Out of 33 qualified 1B in MLB, Jose Abreu ranks:
33 WAR (-0.9)
33 SLG (.265)
33 xwOBA (.265)
33 wRC+ (52)
FIFTY. TWO! That's 21 points lower than the guy in 32nd.
...and yet he ranks 16th in Plate Appearances
He also ranks tied for 4th in ground ball % at almost half his ABs (48.4%) and 2nd in soft hit % (24.2%)
This dude cannot hit 4th in our lineup.
By the way, he is in the 38th percentile for Outs Above Average, is slow (12th percentile) and can't throw (4th percentile arm strength)
But, as we all know, this is fan stuff.
I remember when the Astros used to be smarter than other teams.
Bagwell worst GM in Houston history on a bad decision per days in charge basis.
Two edits for one sentence? You must create sentences like Bagwell GM's.MaxPower said:
Bagwell worst GM in Houston history on a bad decision per days in charge basis.
Back to yesterday and I'm not going to go on a rant on Dusty, it's over. Can we just stand back for a moment and marvel at the God-like strength Yordan has to muscle that outside pitch into the upper tank? Dude is unbelievable. You'd think he should be batting cleanup....oops, sorry.
Speaking of Bagwell from the post above...give it a few more years and the trade for Yordan will exceed the Bagwell one for most lopsided trade in Astros history. Thank you Dodgers!
Speaking of Bagwell from the post above...give it a few more years and the trade for Yordan will exceed the Bagwell one for most lopsided trade in Astros history. Thank you Dodgers!
In a few years? I think it has easily been determined to be the most lopsided. And the point is to have him bat in the first no matter what. That doesn't happen in the four hole.
That's the only logic of the whole situation that makes complete sense.
I was at the game and watching the swing from our angle it was so effortless I didn't think he got it….then I watched the ball flight. It was the first HR of his I've seen in person
That's the only logic of the whole situation that makes complete sense.
I was at the game and watching the swing from our angle it was so effortless I didn't think he got it….then I watched the ball flight. It was the first HR of his I've seen in person
The Bagwell trade was still more lopsided. Period. Bagwell is in the HOF, won a ROY, and MVP, etc.Lonestar_Ag09 said:
In a few years? I think it has easily been determined to be the most lopsided. And the point is to have him bat in the first no matter what. That doesn't happen in the four hole.
That's the only logic of the whole situation that makes complete sense.
I was at the game and watching the swing from our angle it was so effortless I didn't think he got it….then I watched the ball flight. It was the first HR of his I've seen in person
Alvarez is a close second already, but the Baggy trade is included in the all-time fleecings in the game.
Agreed...I think my qualifier was justified, a few more years of Yordan (especially another WS ring and comparable performance) and we won't need to wait for his HOF induction or any MVP hardware, it will be the most lopsided in team history and in the running for more lopsided trade ever.Buck Compton said:The Bagwell trade was still more lopsided. Period. Bagwell is in the HOF, won a ROY, and MVP, etc.Lonestar_Ag09 said:
In a few years? I think it has easily been determined to be the most lopsided. And the point is to have him bat in the first no matter what. That doesn't happen in the four hole.
That's the only logic of the whole situation that makes complete sense.
I was at the game and watching the swing from our angle it was so effortless I didn't think he got it….then I watched the ball flight. It was the first HR of his I've seen in person
Alvarez is a close second already, but the Baggy trade is included in the all-time fleecings in the game.
I agree with your qualifier for the Astros, but nothing will ever match Babe Ruth for cash so the owner could produce a Broadway play.
Even for the Astros, I think you're talking about the most favorable lopsided trades, or maybe you're too young to remember the Joe Morgan and Rusty Staub deals.
Spec Richardson won't be removed as the King of Bad Trades easily.
Spec Richardson won't be removed as the King of Bad Trades easily.
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