***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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Aren't we 0-4 in games that Dubon starts?
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He'll start at DH tomorrow while Dubon stays at 2nd and Hensley sits
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tremble said:

Or maybe the rankings suck. The Astros have had a "depleted" farm system for years and yet we keep on turning prospects into MLB players.
I think they just base the rankings off where each guy was drafted.
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Wabs said:

Aren't we 0-4 in games that Dubon starts?
yes, this is correct
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W said:

Wabs said:

Aren't we 0-4 in games that Dubon starts?
yes, this is correct
We know what DB thinks about analytics. Maybe records are Fan Stuff too?
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McInnis said:

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He had some injuries and some bad luck, but the unwillngness to work harder or be more flexible are what most people remember him for.
The expectations for Ward were about as high as they were for Kyle Tucker when he was in the farm system. I attended the Astros first game at Enron with my dad, who was also at the Astros first game in the Astrodome. The clearest memory I have of that game is my dad saying about Ward, who hit the first home run in Enron that night, "if he wants to make it he needs to lose some of that a**". I never remember him looking like he was in good shape.
Is that why your dad started the thread "Does Daryle Ward being on the Astros piss anyone else off?"
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Wabs said:

Aren't we 0-4 in games that Dubon starts?
We're also 1-0 in World Series when he's been on the roster!
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The Porkchop Express said:

Wabs said:

Aren't we 0-4 in games that Dubon starts?
We're also 1-0 in World Series when he's been on the roster!

Dusty, is that you?
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So keep him on the roster but don't start him. Sounds good.
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maca1028 said:

The Porkchop Express said:

Wabs said:

Aren't we 0-4 in games that Dubon starts?
We're also 1-0 in World Series when he's been on the roster!

Dusty, is that you?
Dusty is taking a nap.
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That Will Smith trade is looking better now...
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Well there goes the Arlingtonians season.
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The Porkchop Express said:

Ward was traded to the Dodgers in an exchange of nobodies at the end of the year. He hit .183 in 52 games there and was released at the end of the year. He managed to play six more years, but his inability to succeed in the outfield meant he only played more than 100 games in a season once, and he never hit more than 15 home runs again. He had some injuries and some bad luck, but the unwillngness to work harder or be more flexible are what most people remember him for.

I got to know Daryle when he was with Sugar Land at the very end of his career. I can't say enough good things about him as a human being but to your point, at that juncture he had been humbled by a long, unsuccessful path back to the majors. At age 40 he had bounced around from independent leagues to Mexico and knew there was no major league callup in his future. He was working his ass off to stay in shape and play the game he loved for as long as he could and doing whatever it took in whatever role he could find. Believe it or not, he looked far better physically at 40 than he did as a rookie. He went into coaching and is currently the hitting coach for AA Chattanooga (Reds). I'm no longer in touch with him, but I do keep up with his career and there has been some speculation recently that he might be the Reds next MLB hitting coach.

Your assumptions about his work ethic in his major leagues are corroborated on the internet (and by his physique in the majors) so I'm not criticizing you for writing what you did. I also admit that my POV is strongly biased because I really like the guy, but even objectively based on where his life and career have gone it's obvious that he did mature and find humility and a servant spirit and I wanted to add this footnote because I think your story is incomplete and I think those that knew him at the end of his career or now remember him differently...and hopefully he has a few more chapters left to write.

Side note: We did have a conversation once about steroids and he joked that he never took them and wouldn't have because he hated lifting and so they wouldn't have helped him any. Easy to believe based on his body and stats and fits the overall narrative. I have a lot of respect for guys who played in the steroid era and didn't juice. Especially because I suspect that if Daryle had juiced and lifted he might have been Schwarber before Schwarber.
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Click = genius
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Harry Dunne said:



Your assumptions about his work ethic in his major leagues are corroborated on the internet (and by his physique in the majors) so I'm not criticizing you for writing what you did. I also admit that my POV is strongly biased because I really like the guy, but even objectively based on where his life and career have gone it's obvious that he did mature and find humility and a servant spirit and I wanted to add this footnote because I think your story is incomplete and I think those that knew him at the end of his career or now remember him differently...and hopefully he has a few more chapters left to write.


I'm glad he's doing good now and I saw he stayed in baseball as a coach.

However, what I wrote comes from conversations from 2 of his former minor league managers and a former Astros scout from that era, so while I appreciate that Daryle is doing good things in the present, I wouldn't have tossed that stuff out there if I didn't have legit sources to back it up.

The use of his story in the book is not condemning his entire life, merely serving as a lesson to young players that if you're not wililng to do "whatever it takes" and work outside your comfort zone, even having incredible talent isn't going to guarantee you success.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


FYI for those in Houston
Hold up, the Astros are the alternate to the Rockets?

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no talks with the Astros this winter about a reunion
I wonder if Click would have tried to bring him back
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Fair enough, and even without your direct sources I knew that was the general consensus about him. I don't think there's any doubt that he would've had a better career if he had worked harder.

Like I said, I wrote what I wrote because I like the guy and wanted to tell the rest of the story. And in full candor I guess I have a soft spot for others who have made mistakes and bounced back. Not that anyone's ever going to write a story about my life, but if they did (and I'm sure you'll agree with this), I'd want them to write about the comeback and not just the setback.
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Harry Dunne said:

Fair enough, and even without your direct sources I knew that was the general consensus about him. I don't think there's any doubt that he would've had a better career if he had worked harder.

Like I said, I wrote what I wrote because I like the guy and wanted to tell the rest of the story. And in full candor I guess I have a soft spot for others who have made mistakes and bounced back. Not that anyone's ever going to write a story about my life, but if they did (and I'm sure you'll agree with this), I'd want them to write about the comeback and not just the setback.
Of course. I hope by the end of my life I can be known for the second act, not the first.

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Find someone who loves you as much as Dusty loves getting Dubon in the lineup.

Why not play Diaz at 1B and Hensley at 2B. Why? Why Dusty?! My hatred for Dubon is unhealthy.
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Finally game time! Feels like we haven't played in a week.
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Gray wanted no part of Yordan
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Lovely. A strike zone as big as the batters boxes.
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need left-handed sticks vs. Gray
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Mathguy64 said:

Lovely. A strike zone as big as the batters boxes.
Urquidy better get that too...
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Carlos down to .083 vs the Astros
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good 1st for Urquidy
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Dubon living up to his TexAgs hype!
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Dubon?
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Nice to see the bottom of the order do something. Good bunt by Maldy.
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