I'm going to be honest though. If I'm an owner I find a way to pay him whether I will put others around him or not. The Japanese eyes he will draw and national media attention is worth it

tjack16 said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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The team that signs Ohtani will likely never win a title with him.

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So if we signed him we wouldn't win?

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The point being that the teams in that hunt are historically teams that don't get how build a team for a title, they just want $$ from the jerseys and merchandise and the uptick in attendance. And that's great for making money but not for winning titles.

Besides of which, he's an injury waiting to happen. It's a miracle that he's had back to back healthy seasons. And when he gets hurt, you're losing 2 players not 1. If he goes anywhere besides the Yankees, Mets, Cubs, Angels, Padres, or Dodgers, I'd be really surprised. And last time I checked, those teams have one 60-game season title between them in the last 7 years.

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I wonder what the trade will include to rent him at the end of this season. Its going to happen...

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I think the Angels will be in a huge quandary come trade deadline time. I think they'll be "close enough" to the playoffs to consider keeping Ohtani for the run. So....do they trade him for a huge haul of prospects for the future of the team? Or keep Ohtani and lose him to free agency and get nothing?

the Astros "win" Ohtani's free agency as long as he leaves the West division. That is the most important thing.

then the Astros really win his free agency if he leaves the American League. That would be awesome.

Ohtani turns 29 years old in July

The Porkchop Express said:

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tjack16 said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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The team that signs Ohtani will likely never win a title with him.

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So if we signed him we wouldn't win?

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The point being that the teams in that hunt are historically teams that don't get how build a team for a title, they just want $$ from the jerseys and merchandise and the uptick in attendance. And that's great for making money but not for winning titles.

Besides of which, he's an injury waiting to happen. It's a miracle that he's had back to back healthy seasons. And when he gets hurt, you're losing 2 players not 1. If he goes anywhere besides the Yankees, Mets, Cubs, Angels, Padres, or Dodgers, I'd be really surprised. And last time I checked, those teams have one 60-game season title between them in the last 7 years.

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That's a good point on the injury...he goes on the shelf and you're losing Justin Verlander and Jose Altuve*, and as we know from the start of this season, it hurts!

*He's a much better hitter than Altuve but didn't want to use Yordan as the example and since Altuve is already hurt it works better.

it is possible that the Angels could get their act together in the next 10 years

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it is possible that the Angels could get their act together in the next 10 years

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10? Maybe. Next 5? No chance.

Regarding Ohtani -- he will probably end up with the Mets. They have aging pitching with JV and Scherzer, plus Cohen will pay whatever because he DGAF.

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It seems like the Dodgers positioned themselves under the cap this year to reset their tax and make a big play for Ohtani this offseason. That's my guess on where he ends up.

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I agree the Dodgers are positioning themselves to make a run, but they are not under the tax. Bauer getting reinstated prevented that.

My worst case scenario is the Rangers personally. They aren't there but they aren't far off. You add another legit arm and his bat and things get much tighter. I still don't believe it's enough but it might be enough for wildcard and then anything can happen.

Plus I do not want that bandwagon in our State

While we are throwing out places he'll never end up, the Braves would be my worst-case scenario. Add him to Acuna, Riley, Albies, Strider, Harris, Olsen, & Muprhy for the next several years and they become our top competition for titles.

Farmer1906 said:

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While we are throwing out places he'll never end up, the Braves would be my worst-case scenario. Add him to Acuna, Riley, Albies, Strider, Harris, Olsen, & Muprhy for the next several years and they become our top competition for titles.

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Does Atlanta have "**** you" money?

I don't see the draw there. It's insanely ****in hot in summer and not a major market



Ah just reread you post. Gotcha

In what world is Atlanta not a major market?

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In what world is Atlanta not a major market?

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Major markets are NY, LA, Chicago...at least thats how I always view it.

I suppose that's fair, followed by DFW, Philly, Houston and Atlanta in the next group.

yes, and that one was fairly easy to predict.

the Yankees are paying him for what he did for the Marlins...which is usually a mistake.

Stanton is making a cool $32 MM in 2023, 2024, and 2025...then his contract eases

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I suppose that's fair, followed by DFW, Philly, Houston and Atlanta in the next group.

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Probably add Boston and SF to NY, LA and Chicago before you get to your list. At least in terms of TV/media markets

those were the next two on the list (actually below the ones I listed per the site I found)

W said:

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the Astros "win" Ohtani's free agency as long as he leaves the West division. That is the most important thing.

then the Astros really win his free agency if he leaves the American League. That would be awesome.

Ohtani turns 29 years old in July

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I'll be shocked if he doesn't sign with the Dodgers.

They attempted to reset the luxury tax the year before his FA (edited for post supra), they routinely spend well over the tax, they win, and are on the West Coast.

I don't think they have. Fangraphs has them at 245 M this year.

I edited after reading the rest of the thread. Gracias.
Two posts called him to the Dodgers too before my superfluous one.

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2 more years on Sale's contract...then it will be over.

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