***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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Looks like Im about to waste 30 mint this morning
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Found the youtube version and looks like you are correct. The ball does hit the wall quite a hit higher at a steep angle and then the glove.

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Wabs said:

As home team and only needing one, I'll never understand not bunting. Especially when it's the bottom of the order. It makes no sense.


Does anyone know if the Astros even practice bunting in spring practice? And in BP, do the players usually lay down a bunt or two on the first couple of pitches?

I realize no one could know that Dubon would have hit a fly instead of striking out but that wouldn't have moved the runner either. This just seems like coaching malpractice.
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Bottom line is that when you're missing key pieces to your lineup and most of your guys aren't producing, you get the guys currently in the lineup to do the small things to put your team in the best position to win the game.

I understand Dusty's philosophy - let hitters hit. That's been clearly established. And that's fine with Atluve and Brantley in lineup, or when your hitters have been hot. Neither of those are/were the case. The best thing for Hensley to do was to lay down a bunt and move Chas. Dubon would have actually had a walk-off under his belt. But no.......
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RED AG 98 said:

Found the youtube version and looks like you are correct. The ball does hit the wall quite a hit higher at a steep angle and then the glove.


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With as far down into the analytics rabbit hole as this organization is I imagine there is a number calculated by some algorithm that was developed by some MIT nerd that says not bunting is the better play.

There has to be
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Posting a GIF finally worked!
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Ag_07 said:

With as far down into the analytics rabbit hole as this organization is I imagine there is a number calculated by some algorithm that was developed by some MIT nerd that says not bunting is the better play.

There has to be
The ONLY reasoning I can personally justify is they think Hensley has a better chance of a hit than Dubon has at putting the ball in play at all. However, you still have the batter after Dubon.

Of course, this all assumes the bunt is successful. Maybe Hensley sucks at bunting, idk
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Just noticed the staff warning on the Rangers thread OP about trolling,

In the spirit of baseball, shouldn't both benches get warnings at the same time?
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If they're over here, I haven't noticed them. I think it's silly to go over there. You want to talk some ****, start the **** talking thread.
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For all you doom and gloomers

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redline248 said:

Ag_07 said:

With as far down into the analytics rabbit hole as this organization is I imagine there is a number calculated by some algorithm that was developed by some MIT nerd that says not bunting is the better play.

There has to be
The ONLY reasoning I can personally justify is they think Hensley has a better chance of a hit than Dubon has at putting the ball in play at all. However, you still have the batter after Dubon.

Of course, this all assumes the bunt is successful. Maybe Hensley sucks at bunting, idk


Chas should've been on third base after Hensleys groundout

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What got edited on the OP by staff?
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Maybe. It was a slow grounder. He needed an immediate break and a good lead off 2B. The biggest advantage he would have had is the momentum of Baez would have made the throw almost impossible.

But I don't disagree. Chas goofed.
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

What got edited on the OP by staff?


I seem to remember more ladies before.
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kegstand said:

redline248 said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Misplayed? It hit the wall 18" above his glove.

It only looked misplayed because on the bounce on the way down it hit his glove
I would have been upset at an Astro LF that didn't catch that ball. He was stumbling on the track and didn't get a good jump. It had an xBA of .140
xBA is based on a composite of all stadiums, and none of the other have the Crawford Boxes. It wasn't a well-hit ball, but it was not likely catchable. Meadows should have played it off the wall in the first place instead of trying to make the catch
Here is a spray chart for someone hitting the ball at 92 EV and 24 LA.



As already stated usually this is an easy out. Short porch parks are usually the difference maker.
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$10 says that line HR in RF was in Yankees Stadium
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Farmer1906 said:

kegstand said:

redline248 said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Misplayed? It hit the wall 18" above his glove.

It only looked misplayed because on the bounce on the way down it hit his glove
I would have been upset at an Astro LF that didn't catch that ball. He was stumbling on the track and didn't get a good jump. It had an xBA of .140
xBA is based on a composite of all stadiums, and none of the other have the Crawford Boxes. It wasn't a well-hit ball, but it was not likely catchable. Meadows should have played it off the wall in the first place instead of trying to make the catch
Here is a spray chart for someone hitting the ball at 92 EV and 24 LA.



As already stated usually this is an easy out. Short porch parks are usually the difference maker.
That's a lot of double plays from the outfield.
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Teddy Perkins said:

Farmer1906 said:

kegstand said:

redline248 said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Misplayed? It hit the wall 18" above his glove.

It only looked misplayed because on the bounce on the way down it hit his glove
I would have been upset at an Astro LF that didn't catch that ball. He was stumbling on the track and didn't get a good jump. It had an xBA of .140
xBA is based on a composite of all stadiums, and none of the other have the Crawford Boxes. It wasn't a well-hit ball, but it was not likely catchable. Meadows should have played it off the wall in the first place instead of trying to make the catch
Here is a spray chart for someone hitting the ball at 92 EV and 24 LA.



As already stated usually this is an easy out. Short porch parks are usually the difference maker.
That's a lot of double plays from the outfield.
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Ag_07 said:

With as far down into the analytics rabbit hole as this organization is I imagine there is a number calculated by some algorithm that was developed by some MIT nerd that says not bunting is the better play.

There has to be
I'll bet that's right. And those analytics are based on how crappy hitters have become at bunting in the era of home runs and strikeouts. If a team practiced on becoming proficient at bunting it would be a real competitive advantage in the bottom of an extra inning when there's a tie.

I forget who did this to the Astros last year, but someone beat them by bunting a runner to third and then scored the run on a sacrifice squeeze. And I remember thinking that I hope Dusty was taking notes.
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Mathguy64 said:

$10 says that line HR in RF was in Yankees Stadium
I quick search and I believe you are correct. But you have to go back to 2015.

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I also just think it depends on who's up to bat. We were at the bottom of the order, so I would have preferred a bunt to get Chas to 3rd. If it's Bregman, Yordan, Abreu, Tucker, or Altuve, I'm letting them swing.
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Farmer1906 said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

What got edited on the OP by staff?


I seem to remember more ladies before.
Yes they did edit the OP! The funny thing I have posted those same gifs before, hell one of them i took form LAST seasons thread.

The one of the TOFA pics they took down was of the same girl they LEFT UP!!! like at least be consistent

Staph must be on one or something
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Ready for Framber to throw six innings tonight now that Breg's hitless streak is done.
Time to get the pitchers off their streak too.
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Beat40 said:

I also just think it depends on who's up to bat. We were at the bottom of the order, so I would have preferred a bunt to get Chas to 3rd. If it's Bregman, Yordan, Abreu, Tucker, or Altuve, I'm letting them swing.
Correct. But it looks like Dusty's philosophy is a blanket philosophy that applies to all players in all situations. I personally think that's dumb and it cost us a game when we battled back and used a significant portion of our bullpen to do so.
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Faustus said:

Ready for Framber to throw six innings tonight now that Breg's hitless streak is done.
Time to get the pitchers off their streak too.


The pen is a wreck. Frankly we need a CG from Framber. I'll settle for him getting into the 7th. I would love to see him be efficient and get through 7. Getting through 5 would be a disaster.
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Mathguy64 said:

Faustus said:

Ready for Framber to throw six innings tonight now that Breg's hitless streak is done.
Time to get the pitchers off their streak too.


The pen is a wreck. Frankly we need a CG from Framber. I'll settle for him getting into the 7th. I would love to see him be efficient and get through 7. Getting through 5 would be a disaster.
Ain't no way Dusty is letting someone go for a CG this early in the season
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Mathguy64 said:

Faustus said:

Ready for Framber to throw six innings tonight now that Breg's hitless streak is done.
Time to get the pitchers off their streak too.


The pen is a wreck. Frankly we need a CG from Framber. I'll settle for him getting into the 7th. I would love to see him be efficient and get through 7. Getting through 5 would be a disaster.


I wouldn't go that far but it ain't great. I was hoping Blanco would give us 2+ last night but I guess that wasn't in the plans. We should probably send Martinez down and bring up Bielak, Dubin, France, Gage, Paredes, or Whitley since they're all on the 40 man. We need a fresh arm.
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Mathguy64 said:

Faustus said:

Ready for Framber to throw six innings tonight now that Breg's hitless streak is done.
Time to get the pitchers off their streak too.


The pen is a wreck. Frankly we need a CG from Framber. I'll settle for him getting into the 7th. I would love to see him be efficient and get through 7. Getting through 5 would be a disaster.


And Dubon will play 2nd for Framber.
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Yordan's last 162 Games

.303 AVG
.402 OBP
.608 SLG
1.010 OPS
.423 wOBA
180 wRC+
44 HR
120 RBI
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Farmer1906 said:

Mathguy64 said:

Faustus said:

Ready for Framber to throw six innings tonight now that Breg's hitless streak is done.
Time to get the pitchers off their streak too.


The pen is a wreck. Frankly we need a CG from Framber. I'll settle for him getting into the 7th. I would love to see him be efficient and get through 7. Getting through 5 would be a disaster.


I wouldn't go that far but it ain't great. I was hoping Blanco would give us 2+ last night but I guess that wasn't in the plans. We should probably send Martinez down and bring up Bielak, Dubin, France, Gage, Paredes, or Whitley since they're all on the 40 man. We need a fresh arm.
I think I heard on the broadcast last night you can't swap out players in the first 10 days of the season.
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All I do is Nguyen said:

The Porkchop Express said:

All I do is Nguyen said:

I think once Uncle Mike comes back, Henlsey goes to 2nd full time and Yordan is the permanent DH

Until Tuve comes back....good lord i thought that was understood.
I just mean Dusty isn't going to stop playing Dubon.
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Beat40 said:

Farmer1906 said:

Mathguy64 said:

Faustus said:

Ready for Framber to throw six innings tonight now that Breg's hitless streak is done.
Time to get the pitchers off their streak too.


The pen is a wreck. Frankly we need a CG from Framber. I'll settle for him getting into the 7th. I would love to see him be efficient and get through 7. Getting through 5 would be a disaster.


I wouldn't go that far but it ain't great. I was hoping Blanco would give us 2+ last night but I guess that wasn't in the plans. We should probably send Martinez down and bring up Bielak, Dubin, France, Gage, Paredes, or Whitley since they're all on the 40 man. We need a fresh arm.
I think I heard on the broadcast last night you can't swap out players in the first 10 days of the season.
Unless am I looking at this wrong, the Yankees did it.

https://www.mlb.com/yankees/roster/transactions

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Farmer1906 said:

Mathguy64 said:

Faustus said:

Ready for Framber to throw six innings tonight now that Breg's hitless streak is done.
Time to get the pitchers off their streak too.


The pen is a wreck. Frankly we need a CG from Framber. I'll settle for him getting into the 7th. I would love to see him be efficient and get through 7. Getting through 5 would be a disaster.


I wouldn't go that far but it ain't great. I was hoping Blanco would give us 2+ last night but I guess that wasn't in the plans. We should probably send Martinez down and bring up Bielak, Dubin, France, Gage, Paredes, or Whitley since they're all on the 40 man. We need a fresh arm.
Unfortunately, we can't do that. They said on the broadcast last night that there can't be any callups within the first 10 days of the season unless someone goes on the IL.
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agproducer said:

Farmer1906 said:

Mathguy64 said:

Faustus said:

Ready for Framber to throw six innings tonight now that Breg's hitless streak is done.
Time to get the pitchers off their streak too.


The pen is a wreck. Frankly we need a CG from Framber. I'll settle for him getting into the 7th. I would love to see him be efficient and get through 7. Getting through 5 would be a disaster.


I wouldn't go that far but it ain't great. I was hoping Blanco would give us 2+ last night but I guess that wasn't in the plans. We should probably send Martinez down and bring up Bielak, Dubin, France, Gage, Paredes, or Whitley since they're all on the 40 man. We need a fresh arm.
Unfortunately, we can't do that. They said on the broadcast last night that there can't be any callups within the first 10 days of the season unless someone goes on the IL.
Why can't Martinez feel discomfort for a 10-day vacation?
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