Im intrigued to see if we might try and package Stroman and ****** nozzle from the Cubs.

Not sure what that would take but maybe we could do something similar to or a mixture of Bielak, McCormcik, Julks, Lee, Melton and young arms not named Arghetti/Ullola/Tamarez. Id personally really like to throw in 40 man guys who arent going to breakthrough here even if its not much of a value add to the trade

redline248 said:

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How much would Eduardo Rodriguez cost? Has an opt out at the end of the year.

Left hander, good Ks, low BBs, solid expected stats

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Good question. As long as he's healthy, I would expect him to be one of the more extensive rentals. If for some reason he gets injured after the trade odds are he's not opting out of the remaining 3/49 M. He's got some risk associated with him the others do not.

"Index finger pulley rupture"

Sounds painful, 15 day IL

I think a lot of you are really overestimating the trade value of guys like Bielak, France, Julks, etc.

Farmer1906 said:

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Stroman absolutely wants to stay in Chicago. He's unhappy that management isn't extending him. With as vocal and strong willed as he is, I don't want him here if he's not in the right mindset.

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would we want him anyway?

texasaggie2015 said:

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I think a lot of you are really overestimating the trade value of guys like Bielak, France, Julks, etc.

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France is probably the highest of the 3, if I had to rank them

redline248 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Stroman absolutely wants to stay in Chicago. He's unhappy that management isn't extending him. With as vocal and strong willed as he is, I don't want him here if he's not in the right mindset.

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would we want him anyway?

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His salary and price tag worry me a little. I wouldn't expect him to stay as good as this start has been. But I think he's the type of guy to overcome the expected #s with the shear ability to get weak contact ala Keuchel.

66.7%

Deluxe said:

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If the Sox called and said we'll give you Cease (2025) and Robert (2027) for:

Gilbert
Meyers
France
Arrighetti
Ullola

Would you do it?

Edit to say we might have to include Clifford or Barber too.

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I'd counter that they can get either Gilbert or Meyers but not both. And then I'd say yes.

Farmer1906 said:

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Arms to consider at the deadline:

• Eduardo Rodriguez
• Marcus Stroman
• Michael Lorenzen
• Drew Smyly
• Shane Bieber
• Zack Greinke
• Lucas Giolito
• Michael Kopech
• Miles Mikolas
• Jordan Montgomery
• Jack Flaherty
• Lance Lynn
• Corey Kluber

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Rodriguez is having his best year in an 8-year career, so I question whether he can maintain it. Lorenzen has been ok but nothing special. Smyly hasn't thrown more than 125 innings since 2016 and he's already logged 71 this year. Is anyone seriously talking about bringing 40-year old Zach Greinke back? Kopech adds nothing to what is already on the staff- he's middle-of-the-road Urquidy. Lynn and his -1.1 WAR can stay in Chicago. I think Corey Kluber's arm actually died in 2019 and it's just a ghost appendage pitching now. Speaking of 2019, Flaherty just passed 200 total innings pitched since that time and he hasn't looked great doing it.

Mikolas would be a proven starter, if nothing flashy, so I guess that qualifies as a #3/4.

Giolito would be a solid addition, assuming last year was a one-off that it appears to have been.

Bieber tailed off recently but is a horse. Would Cleveland really hit the sell button with the division that bad?

Montomery would also be a solid get.

So my opinion is that Houston should only part with substantial talent if it's Giolito, Bieber, or Montgomery.

texasaggie2015 said:

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This elevator is so realistic pic.twitter.com/pKJc2Nw3nx

— HIM jong un 🫡🦍 (@Cisgloo) June 19, 2022

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The bidding war for Paul Goldschmidt at the deadline will be interesting to say the least

Dana Brown said Lance McCullers Jr.’s UCL “is in good shape.”

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) June 14, 2023

About to watch Lorenzen pitch against the Braves till the Stros come on so we'll see what he's got.

Deluxe said:

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What a cool moment last night to see Maldy hit his 100th career HR. Hopefully we do the right thing this offseason and extend him long term. Would be a shame to see him hit his 200th with another club.

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This is a joke, right?

texasaggie2015 said:

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The bidding war for Paul Goldschmidt at the deadline will be interesting to say the least

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I'd be willing to give up ALOT for him.

At 35 years old? I get it, he's awesome.. but that's a part of why it's going to be so interesting.

I'm updating my wants:

Joc Pederson
Jack Flaherty or Lucas Giolito

agproducer said:

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I'm updating my wants:

Joc Pederson
Jack Flaherty or Lucas Giolito

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If this happens without giving up too much, it'll be about the ideal deadline.

Dusty Baker shares his thoughts on the McCullers news and why Peña is not in the lineup again tonight. #Ready2Reign pic.twitter.com/2Enxok5pIh

— SportsTalk 790 (@SportsTalk790) June 14, 2023

Astros GM Dana Brown said McCullers had a “lima bean-sized” bone spur removed and won’t throw until November. He didn’t give a timetable for a return except he will be back next year at some point.

Also, Yordan Alvarez could be out four weeks with an oblique strain.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) June 14, 2023

Astros GM Dana Brown on Yordan Alvarez. pic.twitter.com/dqXF5akZXp

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) June 14, 2023

Astros GM Dana Brown on Brantley and Urquidy. pic.twitter.com/SpkASbo827

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) June 14, 2023

Astros GM Dana Brown on the Trade Deadline. pic.twitter.com/wN9USWskVJ

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) June 14, 2023

Pretty much exactly what I've been saying to you guys

I assume that they knew about it but thought he could work his way back without surgery then just recently realized that wasn't gonna happen.

That's not that crazy