Farmer1906 said:

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redline248 said:

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bearkatag15 said:

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W said:

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and another thing...did Dusty or Dana (or both) mishandle the Dubon situation?

he was the 3rd or 4th best hitter on the team before Altuve's return...and now he has cooled off.

3 for 20 in limited action since Jose returned.

like a football coach icing his own kicker --- could have started him more at DH or LF

now a key player from the first 6 weeks of the season is missing

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LF, CF and Altuve all hit better than Dubon

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Julks (9 games) is .290 with an OPS of .764 since Altuve's return, but Chas... only .152 since coming back from injury and only .115 since Altuve returned.

I didn't realize Chas was struggling so hard right now.

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We seem to be hyper analyzing small windows. It's baseball. Ups and downs happen. No one stays steady all year long.

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For sure. This was just a discussion on whether or not Dubon is getting the short end

Isn't our payroll almost $190,000,000 this season? I didn't think we had a lotta bucks to chase contributors.

texasaggie2015 said:

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I keep being told that the Astros are going to be very, very aggressive leading up to the deadline. They want to add a solid bat and a #3 type SP. I haven't heard any specific names, but we should have an idea as it becomes more clear which teams will be sellers.

I wouldn't expect another Mancini and Vasquez role player kind of deadline. I truly think they'll bring in at least one (likely two) impact guys.

As things stand right now, the White Sox are intriguing.

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They certainly proved susceptible to our predations this past off-season, much to our chagrin.

Dies Irae said:

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Isn't our payroll almost $190,000,000 this season? I didn't think we had a lotta bucks to chase contributors.

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The small and mid-market teams' salary cap is $233,000,000 in 2023, so we should have $43 million to play with without breaking into the Phillies and Padre's stratosphere, which would be a luxury. We reset the tax every year since we've only broken into it once, barely.

Amusingly the Dodgers are slumming it this year at $226,000,000 according to Spotrac, so they can break the bank next season.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

Closer to 218 so we'll have ~15M we can add without getting dinged for going over. Rememebr if someone is making 10 M and we get them at the deadline then we only get counted for the rest of the season <5 M. I doubt there is anyone on these bad clubs with a contract that'll put us close to going over.

I wonder how the regional sports blowup affects teams at the trade deadline. I could see some teams trying to shed salary because of that.

Kole Calhoun Exercises Opt-Out In Yankees Deal https://t.co/LZdSGUyppD pic.twitter.com/AuWLCTQgYO

— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) June 1, 2023

Veteran corner outfielder that has some pop and has been known to be an Astros killer. Might be worth a look as a cheap addition.

If anything, we should trade an OF and Dubon for a starting pitcher - even if it's a rental

We are going to be very interesting to watch as the trade deadline approaches because we have excessive depth in a few places and we also have a few key needs

We also didn't overspend in the off-season, so we have financial flexibility

FWIW corner outfield is a position the Astros will be going after. Someone who can split time at LF/DH. But they want an impact guy. I don't see them taking a shot on Calhoun.

I have no update on Brantley, but if you connect the dots.... (this is entirely speculation on my part)

Wabs said:

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bearkatag15 said:

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Kole Calhoun Exercises Opt-Out In Yankees Deal https://t.co/LZdSGUyppD pic.twitter.com/AuWLCTQgYO

— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) June 1, 2023

Veteran corner outfielder that has some pop and has been known to be an Astros killer. Might be worth a look as a cheap addition.

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Can he play 1B?

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He's played 1B in 8 games in his career... it'd be like riding a bike for him I bet

He was not good the last 2 seasons and couldn't see the field in NY.

Between Tucker, Alvarez, McCormick, & Meyers we have a solid OF. If Brantley is still an option then we are geared to attack LHP & RHP. If not then another LHH would be nice.

We are set at 2B, SS, 3B, & UTL.

The only real holes in the lineup is 1B & C. 1B has been awful. We all know that. C ain't great, but it ain't as bad as it has been. We have a strong bench option that could improve it too.

I doubt we do anything about Abreu just yet. We really just need Dusty to play the guys more consistently and against more ideal match ups. Davis Hensley still have more PAs than Diaz.

Nobody officially but we have pretty much agreed Dusty will give him till then

texasaggie2015 said:

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FWIW corner outfield is a position the Astros will be going after. Someone who can split time at LF/DH. But they want an impact guy. I don't see them taking a shot on Calhoun.

I have no update on Brantley, but if you connect the dots.... (this is entirely speculation on my part)

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If the Giants drop out, Joc Pederson could be a target. OR Conforto.

For SP, Lucas Giolito is intriguing, and if Philly keeps struggling, they may want to unload Nola.

Farmer1906 said:

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Doubt Philly goes into sell mode. But Nola would be awesome.

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I doubt it too, but as it stands, they are 5 games under .500 and they are only 1.5 games up on the lowly Nats.

He's probably the #1 pitching target across the league.

I really wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with Joc and Giolito.

Dana has history with Joc and knows what he brings to the table.

Also, Tucker Barnhart if the Cubs are out of it.

Farmer1906 said:

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He's probably the #1 pitching target across the league.

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Until Ohtani becomes available

agproducer said:

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I really wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with Joc and Giolito.

Dana has history with Joc and knows what he brings to the table.

Also, Tucker Barnhart if the Cubs are out of it.

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Giants are still competing for a WC.

.@markdero7's top World Series contenders entering June!

Who are yours? ⬇️ pic.twitter.com/N35rzSO62T

— MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) June 1, 2023

That's why I said earlier -- "If the Giants fall out."

I wonder the cost to get Shane Bieber. He's got 1.5 years left and you know Cleveland ain't keeping him.

Farmer1906 said:

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I wonder the cost to get Shane Bieber. He's got 1.5 years left and you know Cleveland ain't keeping him.

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Would love adding him. Not sure we have the prospects for that move though. Would likely cost Gilbert as part of the package

Farmer1906 said:

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I wonder the cost to get Shane Bieber. He's got 1.5 years left and you know Cleveland ain't keeping him.

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I would have to think at least 1 MLB ready player or two top 100 players.

% of 2023 plate appearances
vs. opposite-handed pitcher:

66% BAL ARI
64% PIT
63% CLE
62% NYM TEX
60% WSH SF
58% BOS
55% MIL TB
53% SD STL
52% OAK MIN KC ATL SEA
51% PHI COL DET LAD
49% CHC CWS
45% CIN NYY
43% LAA
40% TOR MIA
33% HOU

— Codify (@CodifyBaseball) June 1, 2023

That seems bad… and all about roster/lineup constraints

texasaggie2015 said:

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I keep being told that the Astros are going to be very, very aggressive leading up to the deadline.

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The Braves won a World Series with their trade deadline acquisitions. Can't wait to see what Dana Brown can do while in charge this time around for another contender.

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Farmer1906 said:

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I wonder the cost to get Shane Bieber. He's got 1.5 years left and you know Cleveland ain't keeping him.

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I would have to think at least 1 MLB ready player or two top 100 players.

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Would JP France, Julks and another pitching prospect get it done?

tjack16 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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I wonder the cost to get Shane Bieber. He's got 1.5 years left and you know Cleveland ain't keeping him.

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I would have to think at least 1 MLB ready player or two top 100 players.

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Would JP France, Julks and another pitching prospect get it done?

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I would say not even close. Both guys are older and Julks hasn't been good.

A trade for someone that good is going to hurt.