Farmer1906 said:
I always thought for his longevity he should be an everyday outfielder/DH and come out of the pen as a closer
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I always thought for his longevity he should be an everyday outfielder/DH and come out of the pen as a closer
So. A UCL tear. That means likely TJ surgery and if so he's done for all of 2024 and probably half of 2025. Anyone who signs him will be missing two players and still need to sign another quality DH and #1 to replace him. Who can afford that?
That's the rub with him. You are getting a #1 pitcher and top 5 DH in one player but when he goes down you have to replace a #1 and top 5 DH all at once. It means you need two players but only get one roster spot. Forget the $$, you have to decide what roster spot to refill and eat the other on the bench.
That's the rub with him. You are getting a #1 pitcher and top 5 DH in one player but when he goes down you have to replace a #1 and top 5 DH all at once. It means you need two players but only get one roster spot. Forget the $$, you have to decide what roster spot to refill and eat the other on the bench.
Oh. And let's not forget Trout is back on the IL at the end of the season.
Death, taxes and Mike Trout can't finish a season.
Death, taxes and Mike Trout can't finish a season.
He went back? I thought he was just activated.
Or he takes the Harper bath and tried to come back in one offseason offensively. He might need 2 years off of pitching tho.
3rdgenAg3 said:
Dusty baker get the **** out of our city you ****ing piece of ***** **** you. You would be content with last years ring and not giving a **** about this year. **** YOU.
Holy crap. Some of you just need to take a deep breath and relax.
Farmer1906 said:
He went back? I thought he was just activated.
Read the second half of that tweet. He's going back on the IL.
So. Has anyone ever had TJ right before becoming a FA? Can't remember that happening. At least not to a high quality guy.
Everyone needs to relax. Its not like last night was for a share of the division lead, and plus we have a well-rested bullpen as we go for the series win today to finish 3-4 on this homestand. Things are looking up.
The venn diagram of satire and truth is just a circle at this point.
I can guarantee you:
— 𝕁𝕒𝕜𝕠𝕓 🌟 (@jakedc6) August 24, 2023
*Yordan’s in the lineup tomorrow*
*everyone starts complaining about why he didn’t pinch hit tonight*
*Dusty gets asked the question*
“Well you always wanna try and get the young guns [Julks] some confidence. Throwing them in a big situation like that can…
Yordan has been placed on the 60 Day IL following an injury sustained while playing crossfire with his nephew
When Julks first started his slump I wonder if Dana and Donkey's conversations went like this over the weeks:DavysApprentice said:Eso si, Que es said:
Great to see Chaz, Diaz, Peña clutch up in extras, sucks they were put in the position to have too, also sucks that Dubon and Julks were put in a clutch situation with division lead on the line.
Put your players in position to be successful
Brantley should be playing on this team. Dude is getting 11 million to play for the space cowboys while Julks is getting the biggest at bat of the game.
Astros have zero sense of urgency
First week:
Dana: Julks is 0 for his last 12, it might be time to sit on the bench.
Donkey: He's hitting the ball hard, he'll break out of the slump any day now.
Second week:
Dana: Julks is 0 for his last 24, it might be time to sit on the bench.
Donkey: He's hitting the ball hard, he'll break out of the slump any day now.
Third week:
Dana: Julks is 0 for his last 36, it might be time to sit on the bench.
Donkey: He's hitting the ball hard, he'll break out of the slump any day now.
The fact that he was up to the plate riding a 1 -41 bender is such a testament to Donkey's insistence on playing player favorites, season be damned.
I think on some level, Dusty saw the state of the bullpen and said "ok, lets just end this game and take the L". It seems like he's done that multiple times when we get in these extra inning games, whether it's who he uses to pinch hit or who he uses from the bullpen (i.e. Montero, riding Martinez for a 4th inning in Cleveland).Prosperdick said:When Julks first started his slump I wonder if Dana and Donkey's conversations went like this over the weeks:DavysApprentice said:Eso si, Que es said:
Great to see Chaz, Diaz, Peña clutch up in extras, sucks they were put in the position to have too, also sucks that Dubon and Julks were put in a clutch situation with division lead on the line.
Put your players in position to be successful
Brantley should be playing on this team. Dude is getting 11 million to play for the space cowboys while Julks is getting the biggest at bat of the game.
Astros have zero sense of urgency
First week:
Dana: Julks is 0 for his last 12, it might be time to sit on the bench.
Donkey: He's hitting the ball hard, he'll break out of the slump any day now.
Second week:
Dana: Julks is 0 for his last 24, it might be time to sit on the bench.
Donkey: He's hitting the ball hard, he'll break out of the slump any day now.
Third week:
Dana: Julks is 0 for his last 36, it might be time to sit on the bench.
Donkey: He's hitting the ball hard, he'll break out of the slump any day now.
The fact that he was up to the plate riding a 1 -41 bender is such a testament to Donkey's insistence on playing player favorites, season be damned.
Is Dusty gone no matter the result? Or will we have to miss the playoffs for him to "retire"?
Miss the playoffs? We could make it to the World Series and if we lose I assume he's gone. His only get of jail free card is to win it all and even that might not be enough.BayAg_14 said:
Is Dusty gone no matter the result? Or will we have to miss the playoffs for him to "retire"?
I hope I'm right as nothing would make me more happy than to complain about Donkey potentially coming back next year.
BadAggie said:
Regular Season
2022 Fielding
FP .987 (7th best in MLB)
Errors 72 (6th)
2023 Fielding
FP .985 (14th)
Errors 66 (15th)
Feels like this year is much worse.
Eye test it is for sure. They've talked about how lenient official scorers are moving forward this year on assigning errors. So we are trending to have more errors when they are assigning fewer and fewer e.g Bregman didn't get an error on the critical misplay last night.
linkdude said:
OofShohei Ohtani had imaging done and there is a tear in his UCL. Mike Trout is also going back on the IL
— Rhett Bollinger (@RhettBollinger) August 24, 2023
That sucks ass, right before big pay year too.
Yes but the Angels owner was able to squeeze another 3-4 weeks of gate fan receipts to milk every last dollar out of him. Sure he could have created a bidding war between several teams right before the trade deadline and completely stocked his farm system but that's just fan stuff.Cromagnum said:linkdude said:
OofShohei Ohtani had imaging done and there is a tear in his UCL. Mike Trout is also going back on the IL
— Rhett Bollinger (@RhettBollinger) August 24, 2023
That sucks ass, right before big pay year too.
Oops my Dustyisms are leaking into other topics.
I expect today half of sugarland will be called up to the lineup and everyone sent down for some rest
Prosperdick said:When Julks first started his slump I wonder if Dana and Donkey's conversations went like this over the weeks:DavysApprentice said:Eso si, Que es said:
Great to see Chaz, Diaz, Peña clutch up in extras, sucks they were put in the position to have too, also sucks that Dubon and Julks were put in a clutch situation with division lead on the line.
Put your players in position to be successful
Brantley should be playing on this team. Dude is getting 11 million to play for the space cowboys while Julks is getting the biggest at bat of the game.
Astros have zero sense of urgency
First week:
Dana: Julks is 0 for his last 12, it might be time to sit on the bench.
Donkey: He's hitting the ball hard, he'll break out of the slump any day now.
Second week:
Dana: Julks is 0 for his last 24, it might be time to sit on the bench.
Donkey: He's hitting the ball hard, he'll break out of the slump any day now.
Third week:
Dana: Julks is 0 for his last 36, it might be time to sit on the bench.
Donkey: He's hitting the ball hard, he'll break out of the slump any day now.
The fact that he was up to the plate riding a 1 -41 bender is such a testament to Donkey's insistence on playing player favorites, season be damned.
I will agree it was less than optimal but I believe he was the last bat on the bench yes? I'm worried about what that says about Yordon.
Also not really fair to say 1-41 when he got sent down to AAA in the middle of that he wasn't great but he had like 7 hits. But it's all moot if he's the last bat
5/13 with RISP but only score twice, geeeeezusThe Astros lose 7-5. They left the bases loaded to end the game. Yordan Alvarez was apparently unable to hit tonight. There will be a small riot if he starts tomorrow. They stranded 11 runners tonight. They went 5-13 with RISP but only scored 2 runs on those 5 hits.
— The Astros Locker WS Champs (@TheAstrosLocker) August 24, 2023
linkdude said:5/13 with RISP but only score twice, geeeeezusThe Astros lose 7-5. They left the bases loaded to end the game. Yordan Alvarez was apparently unable to hit tonight. There will be a small riot if he starts tomorrow. They stranded 11 runners tonight. They went 5-13 with RISP but only scored 2 runs on those 5 hits.
— The Astros Locker WS Champs (@TheAstrosLocker) August 24, 2023
We are kings of lopsided stats like this. Woof.
3rdgenAg3 said:
Dusty baker get the **** out of our city you ****ing piece of ***** **** you. You would be content with last years ring and not giving a **** about this year. **** YOU.
Prince Tuck had some very bad swings last night,, hope he was just not seeing the ball well out of pitchers hand or something that won't repeat todayCFTXAG10 said:
More upset with Tuck and Graveman tonight. Tuck had one long fly ball out sac fly and that's it. Sale owned him after that.
Graveman let them off the mat with that 3 run Jack. Had first and second with one out. Giving up a run in extras is fine, but can't put your team in that big of a hole late.
https://ts.la/eric59704
I'm not feeling it this year. Even if we make the playoffs, I don't feel good about getting out if the first round.
Prosperdick said:Yes but the Angels owner was able to squeeze another 3-4 weeks of gate fan receipts to milk every last dollar out of him. Sure he could have created a bidding war between several teams right before the trade deadline and completely stocked his farm system but that's just fan stuff.Cromagnum said:linkdude said:
OofShohei Ohtani had imaging done and there is a tear in his UCL. Mike Trout is also going back on the IL
— Rhett Bollinger (@RhettBollinger) August 24, 2023
That sucks ass, right before big pay year too.
Oops my Dustyisms are leaking into other topics.
Could they have also known something was up? Maybe a little less movement or velo and did not want other teams looking into on a trade. Helps the Angels resign him
Great point, didn't think about that but I guess I could see it. I actually would prefer him to stay there.n_touch said:Prosperdick said:Yes but the Angels owner was able to squeeze another 3-4 weeks of gate fan receipts to milk every last dollar out of him. Sure he could have created a bidding war between several teams right before the trade deadline and completely stocked his farm system but that's just fan stuff.Cromagnum said:linkdude said:
OofShohei Ohtani had imaging done and there is a tear in his UCL. Mike Trout is also going back on the IL
— Rhett Bollinger (@RhettBollinger) August 24, 2023
That sucks ass, right before big pay year too.
Oops my Dustyisms are leaking into other topics.
Could they have also known something was up? Maybe a little less movement or velo and did not want other teams looking into on a trade. Helps the Angels resign him
it's dusty insisting that the players "save themselves" and "taking it safe" for the playoffs. Well, wake the **** up Dusty. It doesn't ****ing matter if they are healthy come the playoffs if the team isn't even in them. NOW is the time to ****ing compete and win games, and guess what just maybe you can get a cushion the last week and then you can rest whoever the **** you want.Frok said:
Astros competitive spirit is weak. Someone is always sitting for some minor reason.
If it has anything to do with Dusty, don't worry about it. Front office will make the lineups in the postseason.
Gotta make it to the postseason first
I have a good feeling about today. The offense is going off this afternoon.
It's one index finger, make a half assed swing without it if you have to. Yordan needed to be in there over cannon fodder Julks.
If it's not broken and damaged enough to put him on the IL, put him in there! I believe his value with bases loaded down 2 vs Julks in there is higher than giving him the extra rest. Literally a chance to win or tie a game with a single at bat, doesn't get better than that. Yordan and/or Dusty are soft.
If it's not broken and damaged enough to put him on the IL, put him in there! I believe his value with bases loaded down 2 vs Julks in there is higher than giving him the extra rest. Literally a chance to win or tie a game with a single at bat, doesn't get better than that. Yordan and/or Dusty are soft.
texasaggie2015 said:
If it has anything to do with Dusty, don't worry about it. He doesn't make the lineups in the postseason.
Who does?
checking in on thistexasaggie2015 said:
There's a lot that happened behind the scenes. I don't have time right now but I'll make a post sometime tonight kinda explaining everything. Remind me if I forget.
https://ts.la/eric59704
texasaggie2015 said:
If it has anything to do with Dusty, don't worry about it. He doesn't make the lineups in the postseason.
Is my sarcasm meter broke, or did you say this as fact?
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