***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 3:37p, 8/8/23
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:
He played off and on when he came up. Wasn't much but it did happen while he was overlapping with Reddick
Haha... I have no memory of this but I looked it up and you're right. That's funny.

Tucker is MUCH more athletic and agile than Yordan.
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In reply to htxag09 • 3:38p, 8/8/23
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htxag09 said:
Mr.Bond said:
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That's not going to happen. They tried and it wasn't going to work.



I guess I sit here and ask how hard did they try? He's a professional athlete. Should be doable with work. Plenty of major leaguers have made position changes
You can sit there and do whatever you want.....isn't going to change a damn thing
Simply asked a question bud. Its a message board
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 3:43p, 8/8/23
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texasaggie2015 said:
Lonestar_Ag09 said:
He played off and on when he came up. Wasn't much but it did happen while he was overlapping with Reddick
Haha... I have no memory of this but I looked it up and you're right. That's funny.

Tucker is MUCH more athletic and agile than Yordan.
I had the same experience when I ran into the stat that Maldonado had a 0.00 ERA and a WHIP of 1.000 in 2014. He apparently pitched an inning to finish a game at some point in 2014.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 3:49p, 8/8/23
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texasaggie2015 said:
Lonestar_Ag09 said:
He played off and on when he came up. Wasn't much but it did happen while he was overlapping with Reddick
Haha... I have no memory of this but I looked it up and you're right. That's funny.

Tucker is MUCH more athletic and agile than Yordan.

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3:51p, 8/8/23
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That is a big loss for TB. It probably helps Framber's Cy chase a little too.
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In reply to txags92 • 3:58p, 8/8/23
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txags92 said:
texasaggie2015 said:
Lonestar_Ag09 said:
He played off and on when he came up. Wasn't much but it did happen while he was overlapping with Reddick
Haha... I have no memory of this but I looked it up and you're right. That's funny.

Tucker is MUCH more athletic and agile than Yordan.
I had the same experience when I ran into the stat that Maldonado had a 0.00 ERA and a WHIP of 1.000 in 2014. He apparently pitched an inning to finish a game at some point in 2014.

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3:58p, 8/8/23
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another data point for the first base discussion...

in 1979 the Pittsburgh Pirates won the world series...

with Willie Stargell as their regular first baseman at age 39

while playing with bad knees on astroturf

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In reply to W • 4:00p, 8/8/23
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W said:
another data point for the first base discussion...

in 1979 the Pittsburgh Pirates won the world series...

with Willie Stargell as their regular first baseman at age 39

while playing with bad knees on astroturf

There was a team recently that did it with a 38-year-old who used to play 2B, SS, & 3B.
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In reply to W • 4:00p, 8/8/23
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Sure. That was Willie Stargell about 40 years ago. We're talking about Yordan Alvarez.

Guys, I'm telling you. Yordan is not going to play first base.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 4:01p, 8/8/23
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Farmer1906 said:
W said:
so the plan at first base for 2024 is ?


The guy with 40 M left on his deal.
Jose Abreu is making Carlos Lee's "worst ever" contract palatable
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 4:03p, 8/8/23
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texasaggie2015 said:
Sure. That was Willie Stargell about 40 years ago. We're talking about Yordan Alvarez.

Guys, I'm telling you. Yordan is not going to play first base.

With Yordans fragile soft tissue construction, I certainly don't want him doing the splits at first base on a regular basis.
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Danwell Home said:
Farmer1906 said:
W said:
so the plan at first base for 2024 is ?


The guy with 40 M left on his deal.
Jose Abreu is making Carlos Lee's "worst ever" contract palatable
60 M today was only like 39 M in 2006.
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 4:06p, 8/8/23
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bearkatag15 said:
linkdude said:
That son of a ***** put out an almost perfect lineup

Excellent lineup Dusty!!!
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 4:06p, 8/8/23
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That is a big loss for TB. It probably helps Framber's Cy chase a little too.

Wonder what in the world is going on in Tampa between their organizational pitching philosophy and training staff. He'll be joining Rasmussen, Springs, and like half their top bullpen arms on the shelf. With Glasnow only having recently returned from similar issues.
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In reply to Beau Holder • 4:09p, 8/8/23
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Farmer1906 said:


That is a big loss for TB. It probably helps Framber's Cy chase a little too.

Wonder what in the world is going on in Tampa between their organizational pitching philosophy and training staff. He'll be joining Rasmussen, Springs, and like half their top bullpen arms on the shelf. With Glasnow only having recently returned from similar issues.
My theory - trying to maximize spin rate. Just pushing the elbow/shoulder/forearm to the limit.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 4:10p, 8/8/23
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Farmer1906 said:
Danwell Home said:
Farmer1906 said:
W said:
so the plan at first base for 2024 is ?


The guy with 40 M left on his deal.
Jose Abreu is making Carlos Lee's "worst ever" contract palatable
60 M today was only like 39 M in 2006.
It's a joke, but both contracts are still bad regardless of inflation.
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In reply to Beau Holder • 4:11p, 8/8/23
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Beau Holder said:
Farmer1906 said:


That is a big loss for TB. It probably helps Framber's Cy chase a little too.

Wonder what in the world is going on in Tampa between their organizational pitching philosophy and training staff. He'll be joining Rasmussen, Springs, and like half their top bullpen arms on the shelf. With Glasnow only having recently returned from similar issues.


TB is a pitching factor but the injuries are hard to ignore.
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In reply to Chef Elko • 4:11p, 8/8/23
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Danwell Home said:
Farmer1906 said:
Danwell Home said:
Farmer1906 said:
W said:
so the plan at first base for 2024 is ?


The guy with 40 M left on his deal.
Jose Abreu is making Carlos Lee's "worst ever" contract palatable
60 M today was only like 39 M in 2006.
It's a joke, but both contracts are still bad regardless of inflation.


Oh I know.

I am still hoping Abreu can do enough to take him off this list.
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4:12p, 8/8/23
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It's everybody. The Dodgers have like 11 pitchers on the IL including 4 starters.
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4:13p, 8/8/23
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With the McClanahan news, you have to imagine the Rays percentage drops and Houston becomes the favorite in the AL.
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4:14p, 8/8/23
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I wonder how much the pitch clock has to do with it. I'm totally spitballing here so if I'm off base someone please correct me.

When you're in the gym, your body needs a certain amount of time to rest between sets. Is pitching similar? Certain guys need longer to recover between pitches, and now that they have to rush, maybe their arms are just giving out sooner. Complete speculation. I'm sure there's more than one reason.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 4:15p, 8/8/23
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texasaggie2015 said:
I wonder how much the pitch clock has to do with it. I'm totally spitballing here so if I'm off base someone please correct me.

When you're in the gym, your body needs a certain amount of time to rest between sets. Is pitching similar? Certain guys need longer to recover between pitches, and now that they have to rush, maybe their arms are just giving out sooner. Complete speculation. I'm sure there's more than one reason.


I'm wondering the same. Lots of people blaming WBC but it seems more widespread than those who played in it.
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4:17p, 8/8/23
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This rookie has some gas in his arm
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 4:18p, 8/8/23
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Farmer1906 said:
Danwell Home said:
Farmer1906 said:
Danwell Home said:
Farmer1906 said:
W said:
so the plan at first base for 2024 is ?


The guy with 40 M left on his deal.
Jose Abreu is making Carlos Lee's "worst ever" contract palatable
60 M today was only like 39 M in 2006.
It's a joke, but both contracts are still bad regardless of inflation.


Oh I know.

I am still hoping Abreu can do enough to take him off this list.
Same, I joke about him out of frustration but I haven't completely thrown in the towel! 100% possible in baseball.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 4:18p, 8/8/23
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texasaggie2015 said:
I wonder how much the pitch clock has to do with it. I'm totally spitballing here so if I'm off base someone please correct me.

When you're in the gym, your body needs a certain amount of time to rest between sets. Is pitching similar? Certain guys need longer to recover between pitches, and now that they have to rush, maybe their arms are just giving out sooner. Complete speculation. I'm sure there's more than one reason.

Optimal rest time depends on the intensity of your sets and the type of exercise you're doing. So you could be right that the "max effort" style of pitching has not rebalanced to the clock.
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In reply to Beau Holder • 4:19p, 8/8/23
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Makes sense. I'm sure everyone's bodies are a little different as well.
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4:20p, 8/8/23
Singleton at DH and Diaz at C and that's a perfect lineup
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 4:21p, 8/8/23
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But it's also not like every team has had their top four starters need Tommy John in the span of a calendar year or close to it. Still worth wondering what Tampa is teaching, emphasizing, or seeking out.
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In reply to stoneca • 4:21p, 8/8/23
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I would rather have Chas at DH over Singleton in this instance
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Beau Holder said:
But it's also not like every team has had their top four starters need Tommy John in the span of a calendar year or close to it. Still worth wondering what Tampa is teaching.
For sure. I'm just thinking league wide.
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4:22p, 8/8/23
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Chas needs to be in the lineup for it to be a perfect lineup. His numbers are too good.
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In reply to stoneca • 4:22p, 8/8/23
stoneca said:
Singleton at DH and Diaz at C and that's a perfect lineup
Singleton hasn't proven a damn thing to be part of a perfect lineup.
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Beat40 said:
stoneca said:
Singleton at DH and Diaz at C and that's a perfect lineup
Singleton hasn't proven a damn thing to be part of a perfect lineup.
Stop trying to derail the hype train
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