Add Yainer Diaz to that list.CoachAg19 said:Mr.Bond said:BadAggie said:
Crane made the decision to not pay JV last off-season. Not saying I disagreed but the buck stops there. Crane has a limit financially and with the pending free agents over the next few offseasons JV's contract would hamstring things.
Losing 3 starters to injury was not part of the plan.
It's tough to repeat in this league as a lot is contingent on staying healthy.
Hes not paying tucker..... who are we gonna spend on out of curiosity?
Not paying Tucker would be a gigantic mistake IMO. Altuve and Bregs aren't going anywhere, but the future of the franchise is Yordan, Tuck, Pena, and Framber. You HAVE to lock up Tuck long term.
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Farmer1906 said:
Hahahahhahahahhahahahaa
Dusty is seriousI just… I mean… WHAT?! https://t.co/br2MaHMFZU pic.twitter.com/U9JdFPpyQe
— Aidan Resnick (@AidanResnick) July 30, 2023
So basically Dusty is trying to convince people there is no difference in a player with a .800 OPS and one with a .550 OPS. Incredible that the Astros franchise, the innovative and smartest guys in the room, has completely changed direction. This is all on Crane.
We have a manager that does not use facts or logic in his decisions
In fact, he's oblivious to them.
In fact, he's oblivious to them.
J.P. France starts tomorrow, Framber Valdez starts on Tuesday and the Astros are TBA on Wednesday.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) July 31, 2023
Nice. Got our ace going Monday and some fat scrub on Tuesday.
I'm not sure it's enough but what about something similar
Mets:
JV+$10 mil this year +$20mil next year and $15mil towards potential 2025 vesting (is it possible to make a contingent money deal, like if his option vests we add the extra $15mil)
Astros:
Julks
Bielak
McCullers
Montero
Leon
They get the players either way
Mets:
JV+$10 mil this year +$20mil next year and $15mil towards potential 2025 vesting (is it possible to make a contingent money deal, like if his option vests we add the extra $15mil)
Astros:
Julks
Bielak
McCullers
Montero
Leon
They get the players either way
Need to get back to the data driven approach more.
Still without a couple legendary HRs by Yordan last postseason the Astros could've come up short.
Dusty is sticking to all these old school baseball management methods while the team is set up for the 21st century.
Nobody in the organization can be blind to this.
Still without a couple legendary HRs by Yordan last postseason the Astros could've come up short.
Dusty is sticking to all these old school baseball management methods while the team is set up for the 21st century.
Nobody in the organization can be blind to this.
Farmer1906 said:
Dusty isn't mentally sound of he compares these two and doesn't see a significant difference.
It's literally a 2 game difference in WAR
I remember the time when we were the smartest organization in baseball. Every part of it. GM, front office and nerds and managerial staff all on the same page and all the best there was. We were the gold standard
Not anymore. Not even close.
BadAggie said:
Need to get back to the data driven approach more.
Still without a couple legendary HRs by Yordan last postseason the Astros could've come up short.
Dusty is sticking to all these old school baseball management methods while the team is set up for the 21st century.
Nobody in the organization can be blind to this.
Problem is Crane chose Dusty over the data and analytics and publicly said wanted to rely less on it, which is crazy considering that approach got us to 6 straight LCS appearances and 4 World Series.
Negative WAR to a clear positive WAR it's that simple
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
The Braves are working to add a starting pitcher, with less than 48 hours before the deadline.
— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) July 31, 2023
They’ve checked with the Mets regarding Justin Verlander but are not currently engaged in negotiations on JV. @MLB @MLBNetwork
Great yet another team to try and outbid
Farmer1906 said:
Hahahahhahahahhahahahaa
Dusty is seriousI just… I mean… WHAT?! https://t.co/br2MaHMFZU pic.twitter.com/U9JdFPpyQe
— Aidan Resnick (@AidanResnick) July 30, 2023
Holy hell this dude is as dumb as a box of rocks.
This is on Crane at this point. Completely gone away from what made this organization successful.
This thread needs some positivity
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EastCoastAgNc said:The Braves are working to add a starting pitcher, with less than 48 hours before the deadline.
— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) July 31, 2023
They’ve checked with the Mets regarding Justin Verlander but are not currently engaged in negotiations on JV. @MLB @MLBNetwork
Great yet another team to try and outbid
Do some of y'all just look for something to be pissed about?
First off the tweet literally says they aren't involved in negotiations.
Besides did you really think we'd be only ones trying to make a deal for JV? You just expect everyone else to back off because we're involved?
So I guess if all the starting pitchers (except Hunter of course) all said they'd prefer to pitch to Maldy despite his weak bat and pass balls because he's a pitcher whisperer (of course the numbers this year don't back it up...at all) I could almost see why Dusty keeps doing it. He's trying to keep his starting pitchers happy.
However, it doesn't explain why when Maldy comes up AFTER the starting pitcher has been knocked out he doesn't simply pinch hit Diaz for him. We have a 3rd catcher in case of emergency...why are you letting Maldy cost you precious outs in the later innings?
I can see the Wade Phillips comparison from football but I've got one for basketball...Guy V Lewis. Guy would just roll out the basketball and take a nap. Drexler picks up his 3rd foul in the first half...gotta yank him Guy, you got pull him!! What the f*** are you doing...oh my god there's his 4th foul. We're screwed.
It's not the best comparison because Guy wouldn't routinely start Reid Gettys over Drexler but I think it's pretty close.
However, it doesn't explain why when Maldy comes up AFTER the starting pitcher has been knocked out he doesn't simply pinch hit Diaz for him. We have a 3rd catcher in case of emergency...why are you letting Maldy cost you precious outs in the later innings?
I can see the Wade Phillips comparison from football but I've got one for basketball...Guy V Lewis. Guy would just roll out the basketball and take a nap. Drexler picks up his 3rd foul in the first half...gotta yank him Guy, you got pull him!! What the f*** are you doing...oh my god there's his 4th foul. We're screwed.
It's not the best comparison because Guy wouldn't routinely start Reid Gettys over Drexler but I think it's pretty close.
Ag_07 said:EastCoastAgNc said:The Braves are working to add a starting pitcher, with less than 48 hours before the deadline.
— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) July 31, 2023
They’ve checked with the Mets regarding Justin Verlander but are not currently engaged in negotiations on JV. @MLB @MLBNetwork
Great yet another team to try and outbid
Do some of y'all just look for something to be pissed about?
First off the tweet literally says they aren't involved in negotiations.
Besides did you really think we'd be only ones trying to make a deal for JV? You just expect everyone else to back off because we're involved?
To be clear, I didn't mean JV specifically, I meant the few starters remaining.
BREAKING: The Angels are acquiring OF Randal Grichuk and 1B C.J. Cron from the Rockies, per source. Colorado gets back RHP Jake Madden and LHP Mason Albright.
— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) July 31, 2023
Farmer1906 said:BREAKING: The Angels are acquiring OF Randal Grichuk and 1B C.J. Cron from the Rockies, per source. Colorado gets back RHP Jake Madden and LHP Mason Albright.
— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) July 31, 2023
Cross that option off the list
Farmer1906 said:
Dusty isn't mentally sound of he compares these two and doesn't see a significant difference.
If you pull Yanier's catcher splits you can see he has effectively Maldonado's production in less than half the games.
We don't have a third catcher. The taxi squad is not a part of the team, he can't be just brought into a game without being activated
The Angles are nuts. They have to jump three of us, Toronto, Boston and NYY. And pray that the Mariners right behind them don't do the same.
Madden is the Angels' No. 8 prospect, per @MLBPipeline, while Albright is their No. 28 prospect. https://t.co/pfsyfw2QAA
— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) July 31, 2023
Prospect ratings for the return
Sorry, I thought Cesar was back up and available. Regardless, if you pinch hit for Maldy and Diaz somehow gets hurt you've got much bigger problems than losing just that game.Lonestar_Ag09 said:
We don't have a third catcher. The taxi squad is not a part of the team, he can't be just brought into a game without being activated
Brown is just going to need to wait out Dusty and focus on building up the farm a little bit.
Click ran into the same problem though. In Crane's mind he wasn't aggressive enough but he had deal lined up for Contreras at last years deadline that Crane nixed.
Luhnow brought Moneyball to the Astros. Crane bought into it but I wouldn't say he's a disciple.
Maldanaldo gets all kinds of protection in this organization it's weird.
Click ran into the same problem though. In Crane's mind he wasn't aggressive enough but he had deal lined up for Contreras at last years deadline that Crane nixed.
Luhnow brought Moneyball to the Astros. Crane bought into it but I wouldn't say he's a disciple.
Maldanaldo gets all kinds of protection in this organization it's weird.
BadAggie said:
Click ran into the same problem though. In Crane's mind he wasn't aggressive enough but he had deal lined up for Contreras at last years deadline that Crane nixed.
That's what was reported but there was a lot more to it. Particularly the Cubs backing out of an agreement and asking for more.
JV will come down the very wire. There's so many details to be worked out that I really don't expect him to go anywhere until the last minute.
Astros aren't done. I expect a couple more moves.
The good news in all this is the Rangers and Angels are hurting their farms. My guess is teams are asking for guys we simply aren't willing to trade. We need to hold onto Baez, Clifford, Gilbert, Arrighetti and Gordon. Melton, Barber and Leon are probably the group I'd want to trade from. Arrighetti and Gordon aren't elite prospects but we need the near major league ready arms.
EastCoastAgNc said:Madden is the Angels' No. 8 prospect, per @MLBPipeline, while Albright is their No. 28 prospect. https://t.co/pfsyfw2QAA
— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) July 31, 2023
Prospect ratings for the return
Not much. Keep in mind the Angels farm system is one of the worst in baseball.
texasaggie2015 said:BadAggie said:
Click ran into the same problem though. In Crane's mind he wasn't aggressive enough but he had deal lined up for Contreras at last years deadline that Crane nixed.
That's what was reported but there was a lot more to it. Particularly the Cubs backing out of an agreement and asking for more.
JV will come down the very wire. There's so many details to be worked out that I really don't expect him to go anywhere until the last minute.
Astros aren't done. I expect a couple more moves.
That's a tidbit.
So it'll be midnight like in 2017 again? Neat
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Blake Sabol from the Giants would be interesting. Power lefty bat. Can play some LF and 1B but also gives you a third catcher (and backup next year).
MaxPower said:
Blake Sabol from the Giants would be interesting. Power lefty bat. Can play some LF and 1B but also gives you a third catcher (and backup next year).
He available?
As long as the end result is the same...I'm in!!!All I do is Nguyen said:
So it'll be midnight like in 2017 again? Neat
No clue. Not like they gave up much to get him and already have a starting catcher, 1B and full OF. They could use a SS so Dubon? I wouldn't mind giving Whitcomb a shot at that utility job.
BadAggie said:MaxPower said:
Blake Sabol from the Giants would be interesting. Power lefty bat. Can play some LF and 1B but also gives you a third catcher (and backup next year).
He available?
The Giants are 2 games back in the division and hold the first NL wild card spot. I highly doubt they sell anyone.
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