***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***

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5:36p, 2/9/23
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regarding an extension for Bregman...

he's making $30 MM in 2023 and in 2024.

I don't think he's going to take a pay cut. So an extension means $30 MM per year at least.

AB was a $30 MM player in 2018 & 2019, but that was 4 years ago.

would wait and see if he can get close to those numbers again before locking him in for $30 MM per year for the next 5 seasons.

and would definitely get a deal done for Tucker first
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5:43p, 2/9/23
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 5:49p, 2/9/23
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No thanks

That's an awful division and the path to the WS seems harder in the NL.
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In reply to TarponChaser • 5:55p, 2/9/23
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TarponChaser said:
aftershock said:


I mean, I get it, but I'm really not a fan of the Oxy patch. I wish it was a little smaller, it looks like it takes up too much of the sleeve.

I'm not a fan either.

And I get that it's advertising but at the base level, advertising is to sell a product. What is Oxy trying to sell to the people who watch the Astros? I mean, they're an O&G/chemical company- we're not buying their petrochemicals or gas from them. It would be more understandable for Exxon, Shell, Chevron, etc since they have a product they market straight to consumers via a distributor network (ie- gas stations).

In other words, what kind of ROI is there really for Oxy sponsoring the Astros or paying to advertise with them on the uniforms, etc?


It's so executives can live the high life.

They will lay off 5,000 employees before giving up their Minute Maid Park suite and perks they get for purchasing that
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In reply to aftershock • 6:16p, 2/9/23
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aftershock said:


I mean, I get it, but I'm really not a fan of the Oxy patch. I wish it was a little smaller, it looks like it takes up too much of the sleeve.


Really. I had to wear that logo on blue Nomex coveralls for 11 years working at their chemical plants. Yuck.
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6:18p, 2/9/23
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Man the Oxy butthurt is strong.

IDGAF...It's a patch. A couple weeks into the season and we won't even notice them. Just like the stupid 65 year patches we wore last year.
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6:30p, 2/9/23
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Yuli is probably in his mid 40s
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In reply to Ag_07 • 6:31p, 2/9/23
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Ag_07 said:
Man the Oxy butthurt is strong.

IDGAF...It's a patch. A couple weeks into the season and we won't even notice them. Just like the stupid 65 year patches we wore last year.


Not really. Pretty mild butthurt if you ask me. Sorry it bothered you.
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6:33p, 2/9/23
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What a ridiculous lineup
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 6:42p, 2/9/23
Why do most of these proposed realignments throw out history for geography? At the very least the "Classic Eight" teams of the National League and the "Original Eight" of the American League should remain in the leagues they have been a part of for 120+ years.
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In reply to W • 6:47p, 2/9/23
I'm not giving him $30M a year well into his 30's. We have bigger priorities.
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 7:11p, 2/9/23
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I feel like everyone is going nuts for the DR while not for the US.



This tops the DR lineup IMO
C - JT (Smith back up)
1B - Goldy
2B - McNeil
SS - Turner
3B - Arenado
LF - Betts
CF - Trout
RF - TED
DH - Alonso (or Schwarber)

Pitching is where I think DR has the edge. That is just because so many Americans aren't playing.
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7:25p, 2/9/23
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I understand the Oxy partnership…err…ad buy.

I appreciate the money they are giving the team, but I don't like advertisements on uniforms. Looks tacky and cheap.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 7:31p, 2/9/23
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Farmer1906 said:


Sounds like Crane hired the right guy. No more passive aggressive Click nonsense.
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7:32p, 2/9/23
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Yeah, that Click guy left the team in shambles.
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7:35p, 2/9/23
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I'll be there for the ring giveaway vs White Sox
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In reply to 1876er • 7:36p, 2/9/23
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Sorry Mrs Click
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7:57p, 2/9/23
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 7:59p, 2/9/23
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But but but the Astros were disrespectful with their offer!!!
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 8:01p, 2/9/23
EastCoastAgNc said:


This feels like something you say after you have deal in place but not yet announced. Otherwise. It puts you wrong footed In the negotiation especially if your dealing with Boras
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 8:02p, 2/9/23
That's actually a good thing for the Astros. First, he was asking for the biggest payday for a first year arbitration player, so he has to understand why the Astros weren't going to just roll over. Second, that lower salary becomes the starting point for future arbitration, which means it saves us money both this year and in the future. Third, just having the arbitration done gives both sides a better idea of what projected arbitration salaries will be the next two years while trying to negotiate. I'm still not optimistic we work out a deal but simply having this process done is a net positive.
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8:03p, 2/9/23
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If somehow Altuve walked after 2024, the city of Houston would burn down. No way they will not extend him
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In reply to tjack16 • 8:15p, 2/9/23
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tjack16 said:
If somehow Altuve walked after 2024, the city of Houston would burn down. No way they will not extend him
Agree but I thought that about JJ Watts.. then he was gone.
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In reply to Ambres • 8:32p, 2/9/23
Ambres said:
tjack16 said:
If somehow Altuve walked after 2024, the city of Houston would burn down. No way they will not extend him
Agree but I thought that about JJ Watts.. then he was gone.


They let watt go because the team was going nowhere fast and wasn't likely to be competitive again during his career.
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8:41p, 2/9/23
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Also JJ is as fake as they get
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In reply to redline248 • 8:49p, 2/9/23
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redline248 said:
Also JJ is as fake as they get


Yes and no. I think he's a legit good guy. He does a lot of kind things privately. He also does them publicly & knows where the camera is always.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 9:03p, 2/9/23
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Farmer1906 said:
redline248 said:
Also JJ is as fake as they get


Yes and no. I think he's a legit good guy. He does a lot of king things privately. He also does them publicly & knows where the camera is always.


This is how I've always thought of JJ

This is also my take on Mattress Mac
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 9:14p, 2/9/23
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EastCoastAgNc said:


The more I think about it, Tuck made a mistake asking for so much. I bet he could have gotten somewhere like 5.2-5.7 if he asked for it.
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In reply to spadilly • 9:14p, 2/9/23
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spadilly said:
I understand the Oxy partnership…err…ad buy.

I appreciate the money they are giving the team, but I don't like advertisements on uniforms. Looks tacky and cheap.


I don't think I understand it from Oxy's viewpoint. I know it helps the Astros, but Oxy doesn't produce or market retail products. You can't buy an Oxy sports car, or gasoline to fill it with. Does seeing their logo in the outfield or on their uniforms make anyone want to go out and buy a barrel of Oxy crude oil or a pound of polyvinyl chloride? Maybe people who buy these commodities for their companies could be influenced, but I kind of doubt it.
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9:16p, 2/9/23
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Can't stop watching this. So damn ready.



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In reply to Marvin • 9:20p, 2/9/23
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Marvin said:
Any Oxy people here? Ok, good.

I hate that the Astros are associated with that group. The procurement people in one particular plant always had a a hand out. Allegedly… might as well throw in a caveat not needed from firsthand experience. Started out as Texans and UFC ticket requests and escalated to prostitutes and race horses. No kidding, a damn thoroughbred… and I'm talking about the horse.
This brings up a good off-season question. Would you rather spend 3 hours with a hooker who frequents an Oxy plant crowd or be forced to sit through a Texans game?
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 10:12p, 2/9/23
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The Porkchop Express said:
Marvin said:
Any Oxy people here? Ok, good.

I hate that the Astros are associated with that group. The procurement people in one particular plant always had a a hand out. Allegedly… might as well throw in a caveat not needed from firsthand experience. Started out as Texans and UFC ticket requests and escalated to prostitutes and race horses. No kidding, a damn thoroughbred… and I'm talking about the horse.
This brings up a good off-season question. Would you rather spend 3 hours with a hooker who frequents an Oxy plant crowd or be forced to sit through a Texans game?
Who are the Texans playing?
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In reply to McInnis • 10:16p, 2/9/23
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McInnis said:
spadilly said:
I understand the Oxy partnership…err…ad buy.

I appreciate the money they are giving the team, but I don't like advertisements on uniforms. Looks tacky and cheap.


I don't think I understand it from Oxy's viewpoint. I know it helps the Astros, but Oxy doesn't produce or market retail products. You can't buy an Oxy sports car, or gasoline to fill it with. Does seeing their logo in the outfield or on their uniforms make anyone want to go out and buy a barrel of Oxy crude oil or a pound of polyvinyl chloride? Maybe people who buy these commodities for their companies could be influenced, but I kind of doubt it.
I bet the company that sells oxy acne pads enjoys the accidental marketing.
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In reply to Ag_07 • 4:42a, 2/10/23
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Edit - removing the post as I don't want to get my friend in trouble. Not my story to tell.
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In reply to Ambres • 5:56a, 2/10/23
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Ambres said:
tjack16 said:
If somehow Altuve walked after 2024, the city of Houston would burn down. No way they will not extend him
Agree but I thought that about JJ Watts.. then he was gone.


To me the two aren't comparable. JJ was hurt quite a bit in his later years, and the teams were never that great. Jose has been the face of this organization for 10 years, and the leader of two championship teams.
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